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ESO is too vulgar and liberal for conservatives and classical RPG'ers
ChaosWotan
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This post is only addressed to conservative people who are considering whether they are going to buy ESO or not. ESO is not like Tolkien. The game has its share of liberal propaganda. So please be aware of that.
All the liberals and libertines in this game will of course laugh now, especially all those who are "tribal liberals", i.e. those who get angry and feel offended by individuals who are not liberal. They will predictably fill this thread with LOLs, snide remarks and liberal cliches, right? And conservatives may respond in a similar nasty way. And then the mods will close the thread perhaps. So I'm not going to participate in any political discussion here.
Personally I have a mainly "Zen" attitude toward both liberals and conservatives, since I have many friends in both camps. Arguing with either side is usually pointless, because the majority of both liberals and conservatives have already made up their minds, and relatively few of them are genuine free thinkers. Consequently, this post is only meant to give conservatives a little warning before they spend time, money and energy on this game.
You can still enjoy it if you are occasionally willing to temporarily ignore your conservative emotions while gaming. Because it's a really good game.
That is all I have to say about this topic in this thread.
All the liberals and libertines in this game will of course laugh now, especially all those who are "tribal liberals", i.e. those who get angry and feel offended by individuals who are not liberal. They will predictably fill this thread with LOLs, snide remarks and liberal cliches, right? And conservatives may respond in a similar nasty way. And then the mods will close the thread perhaps. So I'm not going to participate in any political discussion here.
Personally I have a mainly "Zen" attitude toward both liberals and conservatives, since I have many friends in both camps. Arguing with either side is usually pointless, because the majority of both liberals and conservatives have already made up their minds, and relatively few of them are genuine free thinkers. Consequently, this post is only meant to give conservatives a little warning before they spend time, money and energy on this game.
You can still enjoy it if you are occasionally willing to temporarily ignore your conservative emotions while gaming. Because it's a really good game.
That is all I have to say about this topic in this thread.
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Only the liberal type would create a post to complain about other liberals. I mean cmon you may think your conservative but to write a 4 paragraph post about it would be the furthest thing from being conservative I can think of.3
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cpuScientist✭✭✭✭✭
✭lion9225nub18_ESO wrote: »Only the liberal type would create a post to complain about other liberals. I mean cmon you may think your conservative but to write a 4 paragraph post about it would be the furthest thing from being conservative I can think of.
This is true. Conservatives have a 3 paragraph maximum...Edited by cpuScientist on February 18, 2017 4:54PM1 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I admit I didn't get all the way through you post. A true conservative doesn't tell others how to live or a company how to run. A true conservative will choose which parts of the game to par tale in. Stop trying to tell others how to play the game.2 -
BTHRZeroX✭✭Some times I just have no words for people.EU AD PS4 Dragonknight - Werewolf
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Erm... what?
Is this about the inclusiveness of the game or because people get in trouble for being rude to others?
The only thing I can think about this game having a "liberal agenda" is the inclusion of LGBT NPC's, although maybe some of the quests have "moral of the story" but I can't say I ever saw liberal world views thrown in my face.
Generally you won't find many conservative games any more because there is no money in conservative markets, inclusion means sales to more people of various backgrounds.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't really get it.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.4 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh I just saw who the OP is, now it makes sense.
I was your Guild Leader once, every time you posted on the forums I moved closer the the kick button...@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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ssewallb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Troll or snowflake... hard to tell these days. Anyway inb4 close!Edited by ssewallb14_ESO on February 18, 2017 5:05PM1 -
Berenhir✭✭✭✭✭
✭I flagged it, because I am too conservative to allow this liberal internet thingy to happen!PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -1 -
Gargath✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well I'm conservative, but this is just a game and I can accept those funny moments and quests like this here
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Edited by Tryxus on February 18, 2017 5:19PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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driosketch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ChaosWotan wrote: »That is all I have to say about this topic in this thread.
But you didn't say anything on the topic of what might be offensive to a conservative mind; gay NPCs, use of magic and witchcraft, socialized healing? You just posted 2 paragraphs preemptively defensive over criticism you might receive.Edited by driosketch on February 18, 2017 5:24PMMain: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »ChaosWotan wrote: »That is all I have to say about this topic in this thread.
But you didn't say anything on the topic of what might be offensive to a conservative mind; gay NPCs, use of magic and witchcraft, socialized healing? You just posted 2 paragraphs preemptively defensive over criticism to might receive.
Maybe he's trying to farm LOL's but doesn't remember the button was removed?@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ChaosWotan wrote: »This post is only addressed to conservative people who are considering whether they are going to buy ESO or not. ESO is not like Tolkien. The game has its share of liberal propaganda. So please be aware of that.
All the liberals and libertines in this game will of course laugh now, especially all those who are "tribal liberals", i.e. those who get angry and feel offended by individuals who are not liberal. They will predictably fill this thread with LOLs, snide remarks and liberal cliches, right? And conservatives may respond in a similar nasty way. And then the mods will close the thread perhaps. So I'm not going to participate in any political discussion here.
Personally I have a mainly "Zen" attitude toward both liberals and conservatives, since I have many friends in both camps. Arguing with either side is usually pointless, because the majority of both liberals and conservatives have already made up their minds, and relatively few of them are genuine free thinkers. Consequently, this post is only meant to give conservatives a little warning before they spend time, money and energy on this game.
You can still enjoy it if you are occasionally willing to temporarily ignore your conservative emotions while gaming. Because it's a really good game.
That is all I have to say about this topic in this thread.
I have not noticed any liberal propaganda on this game.
Do you have any examples?
The chat is often-times plagued with shills talking politics. But you can't blame the game for that.Edited by Jeremy on February 18, 2017 5:20PM0 -
Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well the religions of Tamerial are very different to Earth ones.
There is pretty much no religious justifications in this universe for man and female only marriage for example. The worship of Mara is very much love rather than breeding, specifically. Breeding seems to be more Arkay circle.
You can almost have a justification for trans in thier religions, since the Daedric princes can be whatever they want to be.. not to meantion Vivec... who knows. But apperently being a crocodile is still strange to them. But I haven't really seen much of that in game.
Altmer society is actually interesting in that Female politicans seem really common. A lot of the cannonreeves are female to the point I think it is favoured, conservative state for thier society. Whille the generals are a mix in game I would still expect more male generals. I think thier slow breeding rate might have something to do with it.
Bosmer: green lady warrior, high priest Silvinar. A bit of a flip from earth sterotypes. But i don't think Male Bosmer are actually physically stronger than the women like humans. There is less differences.
Khajit.. Female priests seem more common than male ones. I am not sure if that is a quirk of thier religion or not.
Dunmer.. most likely to have conservative values. Male heads of houses for starters. Yet has a strong sensuality under the surface. Thier society was originally built on three female identifying daedra though. Are described as convervative and dour others might have more details.
Osimer... Big sex differences, multiple wives, conservative gender roles typically. But some women choose to leave.
Nords warrior women bamn, I mean they like fighting and drinking as much as the men and even the women are bigger and stronger than most of the other races. I think perhaps more conservative roles would be expected that is shown but I think the nords don't want to waste a resource basically when thier women can beat up everyone else anyway. Jorhuun is also the liberialist of liberials, and would open up oppotunities.
Redgaurd and Breton, especialy Breton I would expect much more conservative societies than is shown in game.
Basically I think the lack of children is the reason :P
opps forgot Argonians.. well their breeding cycle doesn't even make sense. Since they need a third party to breed.Edited by Narvuntien on February 18, 2017 5:26PM0 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have not noticed any liberal propaganda on this game.
Do you have any examples?
I have to agree that OP's post lacks argumentation and concrete examples.
Besides being clearly gay-friendly and the fact that some isolated "specialized brothels" are hidden here and there, I see nothing but regular, Disney-shaped moral backgrounds in ESO. Which is, imho, pretty conservative.
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