Does Heartwood seem scant?

essi2

It appears in-line with the rest of the new mats, you use helluva lot of it though.

Slurg

Yes, only because most of the furniture patterns (at least the ones I have) require it. I think it should drop more often because it is used for so many things. The prices for it on the guild stores reflect a much higher demand for heartwood.

You are not forced into the crown store if you can't find enough heartwood- there seem to be plenty of players selling it. But it'll cost you some gold.

Xexpo

It's regulus for me, I almost never get it ... bast and heartwood for days
must just be rng

...or maybe certain commonly farmed zones have bugged drop rates?

Akrasjel

One could simply wait a bit more.

SydneyGrey

I have the hardest time getting heartwood and clean pelts.

Really, the drop rate on heartwood would be fine if it didn't take a lot of them to make one item, but of course we end up using more of it because it might take 10 to make something. So we're always out.

fallentemplar

I voted it needs to drop more but another fix would be lower the requirments of heartwood on everything by about half /and or have it drop in large ammounts from surveys as they arent that common but would be a nice bonus and mean there would be alot more heartwood and last suggestion is to have heartwood drop from refining but i doubt that will happen but would be awesome

Myyth

To update my vote, I actually have found some wood nodes but they are scarce and with players in every zone farming them its hard to find any wood nodes.
And unfortunately, ever after harvesting some wood nodes, I have yet to find a single piece of heartwood. The drop rate is very discouraging.

Aimora

Regulus is my challenge

Sweetpea704

Heartwood and bast need a boost. Everything else is fine, if you know where to look.

Indigo_Shade

I have been tracking my numbers for collecting the furnishing mats from harvest nodes. My "harvest" skills are all equal, so in theory, I should have, more or less, even numbers of harvest results, but nope, not at all

Mundane Stones, Regulas and Heartwood - Pretty much the same amount for each. Often get in drops of 2's, oddly. I don't have to "go out of my way" to find any of them.

Baste - the 2nd worst to find. I can't be alone in this. 1, cloth nodes have become more rare (my numbers for collected cloth is 45% behind ore and wood). 2, collecting Baste from cloth nodes happens maybe 20% of the time, unlike 40-45% for the other funishing mats.

Pelts - 1 single drop after killing countless wolves, deer and other things that drop leather. In fact, the whole "leather" thing is pissing me off because I don't have enough leather to do writs every day, at my current tier level.

Lately, my preferred harvest region is seeing a lot of really bad behavior, the worst being folks who open chests, but dont collect everything, and folks who collect the Baste from cloth nodes, but not the cloth. Shame!

Callous2208

Spent 3 hours farming hardcore yesterday. Stacks and stacks of wood to refine. 10 heartwood. I am also noticing that every frickin recipe calls for heartwood, even if it's not woodworking. Heartwood is scarce on traders and if you do find it, it's up to 5 times more per piece than any other housing mat. Well played zeni, we'll played.

I_killed_Vivec

Oooo... could it be that the RNG gods are smiling on me for once?

I have literally tons (as in hundreds) of these

Zaldan

taking ZO$ rng into account I've got equal amounts of all mats

Gargath

Just farm more and more and you will have plenty of everything.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

Sweetpea704 wrote: »

Heartwood and bast need a boost. Everything else is fine, if you know where to look.

I have more Heartwood and Bast than I could ever use for my current house.

Now Regulus and Clean Skins - I barely have enough of those to start crafting anything.

All The Best

Evergnar

Aimora wrote: »

Regulus is my challenge

Same. Maybe its the type of items I'm making but I always seem to have about 1/10th as much Regulus as anything else.

Arthmoor

For me it's Regulus. I have 30 of those, about 50-60 of everything but Heartwood, and 94 units of Heartwood. I find way more of it than anything else.

Linaleah

everything is pretty scant. except for hillarious wax (because there is no competition for wax, mostly thanks to isntanced containers) that said... I thought I was getting heartwood the least, but amazingly enough I hit a 100 achievement on it before most other mats. felt like I'm been doing better with mundane runes, but.. apparently not as I still don't have a 100 achievement for it. basically, the problem with heartwood and bast and to some degree regulus? is that they are used in so many patterns in great quantities. especially wood and cloth. so it feels like you are getting far fewer of them, because they get used up so much faster.

honestly? IMO
1. droprates need to be increased
2. crafting costs need to be reduced
3. material nodes need to be instanced, the same way containers are now instanced.

it would help. a LOT. because right now - yeah it takes me an hour of farming to get enough to craft a tapestry or a couch

edited to add, oh god, people who collect the bast, but not the regular materials just... we HATES it! because even if its showing as rubedite for me, when I actualy hit the node, its something like iron. I understand that bag space is at a premium, especially if you are not ESO plus, but at least I could have used rubedite ugg.

Tabbycat

I don't really understand the material requirements on some things. Buckets requiring about as much wood as tables... what's up with that?

Panda_iMunch

It's very scant, so much that the prices have actually went up as time went on, which is nearly unheard of in grinding. My guess it has to do with less grinders, low drop rate, as well as nearly every housing item needing it. Jacks up those prices real good.

driosketch

So I've taken a look at the rate of furnishing mats acquired minus the demand for those mats in the plans I want to craft.

Anecdotally, here's my ranking of most plentiful to most scarce:

1) Alchemic Resin
2) Mundane Rune
3) Regalus
4) Clean Pelts
5) Bast
6) Heartwood
7) Decorative Wax

Integral1900

What I don't get is why does it have to be a two layered grind for god sake, we already have tonnes of mats for gear, why can't we use that? I can make a sword that can cut down a daedric titan but apparently that's just not good enough to build a lamp

Confused Khajit is confused

Tannus15

Integral1900 wrote: »

What I don't get is why does it have to be a two layered grind for god sake, we already have tonnes of mats for gear, why can't we use that? I can make a sword that can cut down a daedric titan but apparently that's just not good enough to build a lamp

Confused Khajit is confused

I'm guessing because they didn't want to have to worry about "tiers" for furniture items so the easy answer was to just add them to the loot table of all existing resource nodes.

Linaleah wrote: »

honestly? IMO
1. droprates need to be increased
2. crafting costs need to be reduced
3. material nodes need to be instanced, the same way containers are now instanced.

it would help. a LOT. because right now - yeah it takes me an hour of farming to get enough to craft a tapestry or a couch

I cannot agree with this more. The requirements are too high, the drop rate too low and the more I think about it the less reason I can think of for resource nodes to NOT be instanced.

It feels like yet another hold over from older MMO's where no one actually questioned why players need to compete for resources.

I'd like to add 4. Chance of getting furniture resources from refining materials and from hirelings.

majulook

Clean Pelts are the worst for me

Alchemic Resin - 110
Bast - 120
Clean Pelts - 3
Decorative Wax - 147
Heartwood - 125
Mundane Rune - 96
Regalus - 105

StrawberryKitsune

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Sweetpea704 wrote: »

Heartwood and bast need a boost. Everything else is fine, if you know where to look.

I have more Heartwood and Bast than I could ever use for my current house.

Now Regulus and Clean Skins - I barely have enough of those to start crafting anything.

All The Best

Try farming Vivec's Antlers for clean pelts. I farm for gold/sellable useless loot on my rare few hours I get in the evening and since homestead dropped I've got over 380 of them. Sure that'll get eaten up when I finally find some decent plans but it worked for me at least.

Linaleah

driosketch wrote: »

So I've taken a look at the rate of furnishing mats acquired minus the demand for those mats in the plans I want to craft.

Anecdotally, here's my ranking of most plentiful to most scarce:

1) Alchemic Resin
2) Mundane Rune
3) Regalus
4) Clean Pelts
5) Heartwood
6) Bast
7) Decorative Wax

for decorative wax - just ran a few laps a day around Coldharbour - the city. containers are instanced, but they are also regular, rather then fence containers, so you don't have to worry about competition or daily fence limits. they usualy reset after you fast travel to a different zone, then back. added bonus - containers also have a chance of containing furnishing recipes. Wax is the one ingredient that I have virtual excess of because of this.

Dread_Viking

can someone close this it is not a problem any more got over 50 today just randomly however was unable to get any before last maintenance. so it seem to have been fixet

radiostar

Dread_Viking wrote: »

can someone close this it is not a problem any more got over 50 today just randomly however was unable to get any before last maintenance. so it seem to have been fixet

If it's fixed, you're welcome Everyone!! They listened to us!

Annalyse

Fixed for you maybe... I farmed for long time tonight, had a couple hundred of ore and wood both - got plenty of regulus but only 6 heartwood. Not much for bast either. I wish we could at least get a small amount from surveys. One or two would be nice.

I have plenty of wax though. It seems my small house will end up filled with wax food items and not much else.

MarrazzMist

Heartwood hurts the most, as you need it for most things you wanna make.

Edit: but now that I think of it, I got exceptionally lucky yesterday... did the drop rates really change?