4v4v4 for battlegrounds?

KingDuncanVII

I imagined it'd be more like 10v10v10 and/or 30v30v30.

Kind of bummed that the teams will be so small. Is there any chance they'll increase this? Or make more battlegrounds that holds more people?

Edit: 10v10v10 is what I'd prefer.

Voxicity

30 destro ults vs 30 destro ults vs 30 destro ults?

AFrostWolf

Should have it be of all sizes depending on the type of battleground. If it's like Arena 1/2/3/4s would be awesome. If it's like Arathi then 10/20v 10/20. Battlegrounds should have something for everyone. Small medium and large scale.

KingDuncanVII

KaiVox22 wrote: »

30 destro ults vs 30 destro ults vs 30 destro ults?

and/or

Humatiel

so you actually think we can sustain 30 people all together at the same time for longer then the first month.

DocFrost72

Perhaps in time we'll see that. 30v30v30, for now, can be found in game. Go to the last remaining emp keep at primetime, and you will see that or higher

Voxicity

KingDuncanVII wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

30 destro ults vs 30 destro ults vs 30 destro ults?

and/or

10 destro ults vs 10 destro ults vs 10 destro ults?

makeumrage

Eww.

MaLaK_FRA

4v4v4 will be unplayable, how will you kill 2 dk tank and 2 healbot ?

If they dont change the pvp, arena will be cancer, more than cyrodil, you will play against people who dont care to win, they will be here to not loose, and they will not

Phica_Lovic

KingDuncanVII wrote: »

I imagined it'd be more like 10v10v10 and/or 30v30v30.

Kind of bummed that the teams will be so small. Is there any chance they'll increase this? Or make more battlegrounds that holds more people?

10 v 10 v 10

and

30 v 30 v 30

is Cyrodiil.

That's already in the game.

But yes, im sure eventually more battlegrounds and what-not will come. More than likely, at least a year away.

Phica_Lovic

MaLaK_FRA wrote: »

4v4v4 will be unplayable, how will you kill 2 dk tank and 2 healbot ?

If they dont change the pvp, arena will be cancer, more than cyrodil, you will play against people who dont care to win, they will be here to not loose, and they will not

How will the 2 tanks and healers kill anything else is the real question.

And to answer your ridiculous hypothetical, with good dps and focus targetting.

Voxicity

Phica_Lovic wrote: »

MaLaK_FRA wrote: »

4v4v4 will be unplayable, how will you kill 2 dk tank and 2 healbot ?

If they dont change the pvp, arena will be cancer, more than cyrodil, you will play against people who dont care to win, they will be here to not loose, and they will not

How will the 2 tanks and healers kill anything else is the real question.

And to answer your ridiculous hypothetical, with good dps and focus targetting.

I'm guessing you don't play in cyrodiil lol. Tanks can and will do just as much damage as damage dealers in cyrodiil, with the added bonus of having like 15k more resistances. In cyrodiil it's not much of a problem cause you can just ignore them and fight someone who's not mentally challenged, however in battlegrounds you'll either have to fight them or just disconnect.

akl77

Why do you need 10vs10? I'd say 2vs2vs2 is the max for a fun fight, otherwise you don't know who did the awesome attack, who put down what ability, what move did your mate make. You really don't want more than 6 in a fighting ground.

Soul_Demon

akl77 wrote: »

Why do you need 10vs10? I'd say 2vs2vs2 is the max for a fun fight, otherwise you don't know who did the awesome attack, who put down what ability, what move did your mate make. You really don't want more than 6 in a fighting ground.

With 4v4v4 it will be the same people and the exact same builds inside of a week...during that time boosters will log in and feed one team to the top and exploit the leaderboards and absolutely no one will play the battleground. ZOS isn't and hasn't addressed exploiting and boosting, and until they do any new features will be abused and cheated in the same way.

It will indeed be cyro all over, with one exception, absolutely no variation in builds or group will happen in short order and become stale immediately when the only players are either exploiting or good teams. Good teams, much as they say otherwise, want to attack people who are not looking to 1v x or 4vx......they want to force that play on the ones playing the map and without that variation the battlegrounds will end quickly.

Stovahkiin

Battlegrounds WILL be trash unless the core balance problems are fixed at least to an extent in pvp

dsalter

i'm hoping they put double ultimate costs in those battlegrounds so ultimate make an impact and aren't something you'll see 2-3times a minute

max_only

I was hoping for capture the flag, usually like 10-15 people each side no? And yes, Cyrodiil is technically a giant map of capture the scroll, but I was thinking more locally in Morrowind itself.

BRogueNZ

claustrophobic cluster _____ is about all I'm expecting and what @Soul_Demon hinted toward

akl77

Yea, esp this is ability button smash game not a true skill game like dark souls. Everyone will be the same, unlike dark souls it came down to most skilled player wins.

austinwalter87ub17_ESO

The goal of Battlegrounds was to cater to the Small-Scale PVP'ers. Not everyone likes the lagfest zerg battles.

MaLaK_FRA

Phica_Lovic wrote: »

MaLaK_FRA wrote: »

4v4v4 will be unplayable, how will you kill 2 dk tank and 2 healbot ?

If they dont change the pvp, arena will be cancer, more than cyrodil, you will play against people who dont care to win, they will be here to not loose, and they will not

How will the 2 tanks and healers kill anything else is the real question.

And to answer your ridiculous hypothetical, with good dps and focus targetting.

ahahahahahaha show me that, pro player, you just cant, as heal bot i can resist easily at 10 guys, so 4 i can with one hand

and they dont need to kill if it's just a flag versus, they just have to stay alive

KingDuncanVII

austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »

The goal of Battlegrounds was to cater to the Small-Scale PVP'ers. Not everyone likes the lagfest zerg battles.

I understand. A 10v10v10 sounds like a happy medium. I enjoy medium sized battles most.

Dr_Rektar

Lool yes . Imagine this teams.: 2 templar healers with BOL. 1 blazing templar. 1 hybrid dk in each team(pick anyone you want instead of 1 Templar healer)

akl77

That's why 2 players in a team max.

Acrolas

It should have been 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5 modes. No stealth. No ultimates. No three-ways.

If we want a three-way ultimate gank fest cluster *** we'll just go to IC.

Lexxypwns

I'd assume if battlegrounds are a success we will see more game modes, maps, and team sizes available. If they're wildly successful we may get a new class pretty quickly(6-9 months from release)

JinMori

KingDuncanVII wrote: »

I imagined it'd be more like 10v10v10 and/or 30v30v30.

Kind of bummed that the teams will be so small. Is there any chance they'll increase this? Or make more battlegrounds that holds more people?

We already have zergs, no need for other zergs, we need some kind of small scale pvp.

G0ku

battlegrounds will either be a pain to play because of balance or rest of this game will suck because balance changes to silence the cries of the battleground fighters, so a lose-lose situation i guess

KingDuncanVII

JinMori wrote: »

We already have zergs, no need for other zergs, we need some kind of small scale pvp.

I'm not saying small-scale PvP is a bad thing. It's good that they have it. I enjoy medium-sized PvP battles (ex. 10v10v10).

cravnbeer

Arenas are poison to mmorpgs.

Dr_Rektar

Hmm i just discovered a good idea. Campaing or battlegrounds where any of set bonuses are working