Are you happy with the way furniture crafting/ housing works?

starkerealm

Other:

I'm okay with some of it. I'm mildly irked by the fact that there are no beds available from the public vendors, and that there's so little available for sale via gold in general.

I like the system overall, but the initial buy in is a bit steep.

Myyth

No, I don't like it.

No, they purposely made crafting furniture as hard as possible to make people buy from the cash shop. So I highly doubt ill ever have a fully furnished home.

Runschei

Where is the option for 'I don't understand anything' ?

Bouldercleave

Other:

The sheer number of special materials needed among other things seem very prohibitive to me.

1. My first master writ was for a motif (Malacath) that I did not have a single page for. For completing it, I recieved 5 "credits". Most of the decent items that you can buy with credits need 350 + to purchase.
2. The special materials are fine but the drop rate seems low for the amount needed to create even the most mundane of items.
3. I only need 10 -14 basic mats to make chest armor, but I need several bizarre combinations of items to make a candle.
4. I always loot every container and always have, so the drop rate for blueprints and stuff seems decent. I found 7 I think yesterday. I haven't found anywhere near enough special materials to make much though.

All and all for the price of the house, the difficulty in obtaining mats, and the many bizarre things needed to make items, the BEST that I can give it is a "MEH".

johu31

No, I don't like it.

It's a grind fest.

Uriel_Nocturne

I didn't vote because it hasn't released on Xbox yet.

But from the feedback I've read on the PTS forum and in these forums since it went live on PC, it sounds horribly implemented designed like ZOS is trying to turn ESO into a Korean-F2P-grindy-herd-you-to-the-Cash-Shop MMO... and that isn't good at all.

I didn't have much hype at all for Homestead (no additional storage when every house in every MMO for a decade or more, has had additional storage), but reading what I am from people experiencing it is even killing the will to spend any in-game Gold on it.

Mady

Yes, I really enjoy it.

It took me some time, but now I love it.


Just a l2p issue here

Turelus

Yes, I really enjoy it.

There are some issues but mostly I really like it.

My biggest worry now is apex reward furniture items in crown crates.

BlackSparrow

Other:

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

I didn't vote because it hasn't released on Xbox yet.

But from the feedback I've read on the PTS forum and in these forums since it went live on PC, it sounds horribly implemented designed like ZOS is trying to turn ESO into a Korean-F2P-grindy-herd-you-to-the-Cash-Shop MMO... and that isn't good at all.

I didn't have much hype at all for Homestead (no additional storage when every house in every MMO for a decade or more, has had additional storage), but reading what I am from people experiencing it is even killing the will to spend any in-game Gold on it.

To be fair, the feedback on this forum is ALWAYS horribly skewed toward the negative. This really is something that plays to personal tastes, and the ones who are angry or disappointed are the ones who will be crowding the forums instead of playing the game.

For example, I LOVE housing overall. I love having my own space in the game that reflects my characters, and there is a feeling of accomplishment in collecting recipes and furnishings. It feels a little grindy now, but that is primarily because it's new. Give it a month, and everyone's bags will be bursting with this stuff.

My advice is, when it comes to console, withhold judgment. Get the free apartment and use it to dump stuff for a little while. Keep playing the game as you normally would, and check crafting nodes as you go.

Then, if you get curious a little while in, give it a shot. Decorate your free apartment, or get a cheap apartment or house with in-game gold to give you a little more space. Play around in it. If it's not or you, that's understandable. But really, you need to judge for yourself. Don't take the word of the forums, because that's always going to cast everything in a bad light.

IrishGirlGamer

Yes, I really enjoy it.

The good outweighs the bad.

The good:

1. I like the number of houses and their styles. It's not just two or three of the same house. I feel like they really put some thought into it.
2. I like the number and wide range of furnishings. I like being able to craft furnishings and sell them.
3. I like the way housing integrates with the game.
4. I like that you buy a house and get it permanently, and don't have to worry about renting some space.

The bad:

1. To no surprise, Zenimax turned this into a real life money suck. House and furniture prices are very high, and when combined with this:
2. The drop rate for furniture crafting mats is horrible. It's almost predatory, practically forcing players who don't want to farm for hours just to make a bed for their house to buy sets from the crown store.

Meh, I learned my lesson with crown crates. I will NOT spend crowns on housing items. Which means I'm farming for hours and probably for weeks on end to furnish a simple house. And while this sucks, and is frustrating, I admit I still like the housing function.

itehache

Other:

We should have gotten a basic blueprint for bed / chair / shelves etc. Not any fancy style, just a basic one so our homes wouldn't look that empty. Then we would loot all the cool styles, but at least have basic furniture lol

Other than that, I love it!

MythicEmperor

No, I don't like it.

Too much grind and too much cost.

svartorn

Yes, I really enjoy it.

I like the system of it. Just wish I could find more blueprints/diagrams.

Jeremy

Other:

Preypacer wrote: »

Not a fan of the very Korean-style Cash Shop implementation of it.

The options are:
1. Grind to earn the gold, do the intro quest, and then grind out achievements, as many as 3, if a house is wanted in different faction areas and those achievements haven't been earned, yet.

2. Spend real money on the crown store and conveniently bypass all that.

It's the classic case of "make the non Cash Shop method grindy and inconvenient, so the cash shop alternative will seem more favorable, and people are more likely to pull out the credit card".

It's a manipulative, cash-grabby tactic that's obnoxious enough in true F2P games, but worse when it's done in a B2P game, and moreso if you're also paying a subscription on top of that.

Homestead was not designed to benefit the players. It's designed to benefit ZeniMax.

Sadly, I tend to agree with you. It's way too tilted toward the cash shop.

As an example; the system forces you to purchase crowns if you want to add a banker or merchant to your home. These are two very important features if you are trying to make your home an alternative to having to go to town - adding this to the fact this is Homestead's only true functionality since the developers declined to add more storage options.

Take this into account with the new master writ system that places even more demands on a player's inventory - Homestead reminds me a little more every day of what a truly bad decision it was not to include more storage capacity.

I voted other because over-all I believe Homestead is an asset to the game and I do intend to buy and furnish my own home (as soon as I can afford it anyway). But the system itself could have been implemented a lot better. The starter room is like a bad joke (I have seen closets that are bigger) and the fact that I still do not even have a bed speaks for itself. Then there is the aforementioned cash shop emphasis - which both you and I don't approve of.

Grunim

No, I don't like it.

First the positive, beautiful artwork which ESO always excels in. Splendid job there.

Here is why I voted no in this poll

• Writ vouchers are character bound and not account bound. This is a major deterrent for me to even participate in this system. The writ voucher system majorly penalizes players who chose to become master crafters by dividing each craft between multiple characters. Plus I am unwilling to use legendary mats to produce master writ products. The cost is simply exorbitant to me.
• Lack of storage in housing.

Danikat

Other:

None of the options in the poll really fit me.

I think housing is ok for what it is, but it could be a lot better.

I actually really like that they offered houses for both gold and crowns because it increases the chances that everyone will be able to find an option which is right for them. I know a lot of people are angry about the crown prices but I've seen other people who are really happy because they can't imagine saving up enough gold but have more than enough real money to spend on it. Ok sure, if you want Ebonheart Chateau fully furnished and you want it yesterday it's very expensive however you do it, but if you look at all the houses together I think they did a good job offering a range of price points.

Admittedly it helps that I'm in no rush to buy a house. I like the idea of having an instance to decorate and somewhere my characters can call home and I could easily afford the one I want (Mournoth Keep) with crowns but it costs almost double what I'd previously decided I wanted to spend on a fake house. So I'm buying it with gold. My current estimate is that it'll take me just under 4 months to save up.

But the problem is I'm in no rush because other than liking the idea of my characters having a home there's not really anything about housing that appeals to me. It doesn't provide any actual benefit or function in the game, and once I've got the house I want I can't see myself going there very often except to add new furnishings and to use the crafting stations.

There is so, so much more they could have done with this. Housing could have been a really amazing addition to the game. Instead it's at best an interesting novelty.

I really hope they do more with it in future.

Epona222

Tasear wrote: »

Could be fun but feels lifeless, I am afraid to craft something that I don't like... As materials are too rare. So my hype is still here but quite deflated. As it stands not healthy for creative people who were the target audience.

* getting CP 160 gear is faster then this.

That sums it up nicely - I have around 35 furniture plans now that I looted - however, if I craft something it may not be to my liking and will use up valuable mats, and take up storage space (whether it stays in my inventory, bank, or gets placed in a house). So I am being very cautious and not crafting stuff to try out a piece of furniture.

We need:

• Furniture preview before crafting (also gear preview while you are at it Zeni!)
• Higher drop rate of furniture mats (at least let us get them from hirelings, surveys, and refining)
• Ability to get warehouse storage for furnishings - every time I feel some relief in my inventory, there is something new to fill it! (and yes, that is with ESO+ craft bag!)

salmoncat33

No, I don't like it.

I hate the house layouts... I feel like I'm just in another building in that zone. Nothing feels unique. Also why do houses look so large on the outside but like dark prison cells inside?

Knightpanther

No, I don't like it.

Same as the other threads, the grind and way it has been introduced is mediocre to say the least as it does nothing to encourage even a hardcore house crafter like me (EQ2) to want to spend time on it.

ESO was too be my step up from EQ2, my new home, sadly at the moment (apart from the graphics and class system) it falls behind in many ways.

I am forever the optimist, just wish Zeno had thought out the crafting system better having made what I consider to be an awesome armor/weapons crafting system.

Be safe

Krainor1974

No, I don't like it.

They should of used regular wood for crafting furniture

Shadowasrial

No, I don't like it.

Not enough furnishing for manors

Ourorboros

Other:

I feel like I just got a job. Two jobs, really. Do I farm mats for crafting resources or loot containers trying to find plans? I'm doing both, but what a time suck! Some of the purchasable decorations are cool, but many are very expensive. It would be nice if there was a tooltip to indicate the achievement needed for the ones that don't state this in description.

Is it crazy to put the Master Angler boat in a living room?

AshTal

No, I don't like it.

We all knew it was a cash grab as far as houses go. What I do object to is the furniture I don't want to live in a house which was decorated by a colour blind clown with a fetish for crap however as I have to find the receipts (or buy them when they show up probably for millions of gold) I can only craft what I have found.

Each race should be able to craft their furniture so I can at least dec out my house with more than just cheap chairs. Who would have thought every home owner was a legendary hero.

BlackSparrow

Other:

Ourorboros wrote: »

I feel like I just got a job. Two jobs, really. Do I farm mats for crafting resources or loot containers trying to find plans? I'm doing both, but what a time suck! Some of the purchasable decorations are cool, but many are very expensive. It would be nice if there was a tooltip to indicate the achievement needed for the ones that don't state this in description.

Is it crazy to put the Master Angler boat in a living room?

Crazy awesome, maybe.

(And yeah, I agree on having achievement requirements listed would be nice. Most can be intuited, but some are mysteries.)

Soella

Yes, I really enjoy it.

I like it, and going to spend quite a few time on getting everything I want for my houses. I don't want to get "ready to move in" house, it would be like getting fully geared top level character first day of the game.

But sure people who are mostly interested in combat part of the game are quite disappointed, I doubt they understand how interesting is to plan your garden, found trees you want or thoroughly look through all houses choosing where your library will be.

As for grind - again, if you put some time into planning, it definitely is not bad - and sure much more predictable than vMA.

My main problem is that current trade system is absolutely inadequate to increasing load caused by thousands of items and patterns.

Evergnar

No, I don't like it.

Preypacer wrote: »

Not a fan of the very Korean-style Cash Shop implementation of it.

The options are:
1. Grind to earn the gold, do the intro quest, and then grind out achievements, as many as 3, if a house is wanted in different faction areas and those achievements haven't been earned, yet.

2. Spend real money on the crown store and conveniently bypass all that.

It's the classic case of "make the non Cash Shop method grindy and inconvenient, so the cash shop alternative will seem more favorable, and people are more likely to pull out the credit card".

It's a manipulative, cash-grabby tactic that's obnoxious enough in true F2P games, but worse when it's done in a B2P game, and moreso if you're also paying a subscription on top of that.

Homestead was not designed to benefit the players. It's designed to benefit ZeniMax.

^This. I expected a certain degree of this when ESO went B2P but Zos has shown little restraint in that area.

Vanthras79

Yes, I really enjoy it.

Tabbycat wrote: »

There's room for improvement but overall I like it.

I can agree to this. If the drop rates for furniture crafting materials was raised, there would be no major push back from customers about the whole cash-grab image that ZOS is waiving in the air.

Ghanima_Atreides

No, I don't like it.

The drop rates for blueprints and materials are frustratingly low, but even more than that the crafting requirements are outrageous. My boyfriend found a blue print for a fire pit that's apparently made entirely out of magical runes...even though the thing clearly has a stone base, a wooden frame and an iron bar at the top. Just...what?

It's rather taking the fun out of it, to be honest. No, I don't expect to have a fully-furnished mansion after a day, but I do expect to be able to craft some basic furniture fairly easily and for material combinations to make some semblance of sense.

SirAndy

Other:

Great start, needs lot of improvements ...

Nebthet78

Yes, I really enjoy it.

For the most part, I am enjoying it, however they do really need to make a couple small changes.

- Need to have a Blueprint/Pattern/Design/Praxis Vendor who can sell you the patterns you want directly with gold. I'd say the green and blue patterns for the most part in things like tables, chairs, beds and counters etc.

- Need to make it so you are guaranteed heartwood, regulus, mundus runes, alchemical resin and clean pelt from every node harvested if you are a master crafter. (level 50 and 10/10 points in each of the crafts). The drop rate due to RNG right now is really bad for a good number of people, while there are a few others that are just raking the number of mats in. But as a master crafter, you should be able to find these mats with no issues in comparison to someone who hasn't levelled up this skill.

- Need to double the number of people who are able to visit you in the house at the same time.

- The amount of items you can put in a home should be increased by 125 for each house, BEFORE the ESO+ benefit of increased items kicks in.