Your New Home is On Us - Homestead Available email

runagate

ESO email wrote:

Homestead, a free update for all ESO players, is now live on PC / Mac. Log into the game and complete the Homestead tutorial quest to receive your first free home!

Showcase your trophies, pets and mounts, take your Pledge of Mara to the next level and move in together, host grand duelling tournaments, and more

1) Showcase your trophies is false. You can use the new monster heads which previously were not trophies in your home, but the previously existing "Trophies" that are so rare and hard to get are not usable.

2) Your Pledge of Mara has nothing whatsoever to do with housing except inasmuch as you can share housing permissions with whomever you'd like which would have been a much more salient point to include in the notification email.

3) Host grand dueling tournaments of up to 25 people if you happen to have millions of gold to spend on the largest homes... or $100 USD.

4) Much more relevant things to bring up would be that furniture is an incredible grind to obtain and costs absurd amounts of mats that you probably don't have (I do, but most don't), that you can port to your houses for free and that you can fill it with your Assistants and crafting tables - the only real functionality.

5)

altemriel wrote: »

no storage!!!

(oh yeah)

altemriel

no storage!!!

Elsonso

runagate wrote: »

ESO email wrote:

Homestead, a free update for all ESO players, is now live on PC / Mac. Log into the game and complete the Homestead tutorial quest to receive your first free home!

Showcase your trophies, pets and mounts, take your Pledge of Mara to the next level and move in together, host grand duelling tournaments, and more

1) Showcase your trophies is false. You can use the new monster heads which previously were not trophies in your home, but the previously existing "Trophies" that are so rare and hard to get are not usable.

2) Your Pledge of Mara has nothing whatsoever to do with housing except inasmuch as you can share housing permissions with whomever you'd like which would have been a much more salient point to include in the notification email.

3) Host grand dueling tournaments of up to 25 people if you happen to have millions of gold to spend on the largest homes... or $100 USD.

Bethesda Marketing and ZOS missed a few meetings where Homestead features were being discussed and decided. Either that, or someone at ZOS forgot to tell Bethesda that they had to impose limitations on what they could deliver.

I'd hate to be the janitor at ZOS HQ. They must have so many features that "don't make the cut" that you can barely see the floor for the mess.

DeadlyRecluse

The dueling tournaments is also nonsense, until they fix CCed players going right through player-built walls.

runagate

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

The dueling tournaments is also nonsense, until they fix CCed players going right through player-built walls.

I actually hadn't heard anything about that. I still love that if you give someone Decorator privileges you can go into the Housing Editor and drop items on people even in the middle of a duel.

WaTeR-aBuSeR

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

DeadlyRecluse

runagate wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

The dueling tournaments is also nonsense, until they fix CCed players going right through player-built walls.

I actually hadn't heard anything about that. I still love that if you give someone Decorator privileges you can go into the Housing Editor and drop items on people even in the middle of a duel.

Build a double-walled dueling arena, duel on a magplar. Javelin them into the wall, sweeps them through it.

It's pretty stupid, and it's really a pity because you can make AWESOME looking arenas with PvP trophies, banners, etc.

starkerealm

altemriel wrote: »

no storage!!!

Storage!!! No!!!!

Wait, am I doing this right?

Mic1007

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

Who says it can't be a home? If you live in it, it's your home. It's not a house, but a house is not necessarily a home.

runagate

Mic1007 wrote: »

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

Who says it can't be a home? If you live in it, it's your home. It's not a house, but a house is not necessarily a home.

I think it's fair to say that if trying to pan the camera gives you vertigo because there's no enough room then it's not so much a home as a prison cell.

Alpheu5

runagate wrote: »

Mic1007 wrote: »

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

Who says it can't be a home? If you live in it, it's your home. It's not a house, but a house is not necessarily a home.

I think it's fair to say that if trying to pan the camera gives you vertigo because there's no enough room then it's not so much a home as a prison cell.

First person view.

Pallio

Anyone else feel like the evil witches sister?

This non storage house fell on us, and as a bonus we got nerfs and bugs just for fun.

Test dummies are cool though, just wish we could respec without jacking our skills up, wish penitration worked, rip Twice Fanged Serpent set, wish I could figure out why I am getting hit harder from mobs and doing less damage now..........

Cryptical

runagate wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

The dueling tournaments is also nonsense, until they fix CCed players going right through player-built walls.

I actually hadn't heard anything about that. I still love that if you give someone Decorator privileges you can go into the Housing Editor and drop items on people even in the middle of a duel.

*waits expectantly for the vid of someone getting killed by an anvil, Wile E Coyote style*

Sigtric

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

Kittie887b14_ESO

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

That's what I'm talking about. I just received the email and I became confused. When they first announced they were releasing this update, months ago, they said there would be a free home so I waited excitedly all this time. Then when they released the update recently I excitedly went to read about it and read it's not a home it's a room, so I was sad again. Then I got the email saying it is a home so I got excited again and I went into the forums here to see what other people are saying about it only to find it IS a room.. so I feel like we're sort of being lied to and manipulated by ESO. I feel kind of angry about this.

runagate

Kittie887b14_ESO wrote: »

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

That's what I'm talking about. I just received the email and I became confused. When they first announced they were releasing this update, months ago, they said there would be a free home so I waited excitedly all this time. Then when they released the update recently I excitedly went to read about it and read it's not a home it's a room, so I was sad again. Then I got the email saying it is a home so I got excited again and I went into the forums here to see what other people are saying about it only to find it IS a room.. so I feel like we're sort of being lied to and manipulated by ESO. I feel kind of angry about this.

Well, if it makes you feel any better being manipulated is precisely what you're not.

Quite literally no one will log in and be happy to find out they got half a monk's cell as their "free home." No one.


So the entire idea they're presenting, predictably, backfires horribly.

runagate

After posting this there continues to be threads about married couple co-ownership of homes. I think perhaps whomever the marketing department tapped for this mailer need to talk to the housing dev team.

Pangnirtung

altemriel wrote: »

no storage!!!

(oh yeah)
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Guaranteed that storage will be in the crown store at a future day.

If it can be monetized it will be.

LadyLora

In my email I received it says whoever you have done the pledge of Mara with you can buy a house together.. now I'm being told different? So we can only visit each other, Not actually live together? Unfair

Garethjolnir

Bobby_V_Rockit

A free room AND candle for your real house I'm happy with that

Nestor

While I agree with your last two points, your first three points are not quite on target.

1. There are Trophies that you can get, you get them from the Trophy Vendor, see this page

http://deltiasgaming.com/2017/01/07/eso-house-achievement-list/

2. The Ring of Mara statement was more an RP than anything else. You can limit visitors to your house to just one person, and not a guild. I did not read it as the Ring of Mara having anything to do with Housing.

3. You do not need the largest house to host Dueling Tourneys. Forsaken Stronghold is one that has excellent grounds for this. There are others too with good grounds, but I will let you go find them. Sure, there are some houses that have no grounds for dueling. And, finally, one of the cheapest houses in the game is right next to the built in Dueling Arena in Strormhaven. Which you would use anyway for any decent tournaments due to the 25 player limit. And, that place is always empty, probably because there was no Wayshrine near it, or any other reason to visit.

Yep, crafting furniture is a grind, and it is not a fun grind either. I don't think I will ever make much if anything for any houses. I may just sell the mats I have collected after looking at some recipes.

And, don't get me started on storage, I look at all the containers in my house and just cry that I can't put stuff in there like every other TES game I ever played. They gave some technical reason for it, but they could have carved out a Mules worth of storage in each house.

Cynnalia

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

A free room AND candle for your real house I'm happy with that

Dang it, I knew there was something I forgot to do when I bought my real house...I forgot to move my candle!

Beware13

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

The dueling tournaments is also nonsense, until they fix CCed players going right through player-built walls.

I have had a few people get pushed through my dining room table while dueling, and once fell through the floor

LokomotivBreath

I am a HUGE fan boy of ESO. I play everyday and love the game. But my experience is much like others in this forum. That of disappointment. I went to purchase my house, previewed it, was more than happy to pay the gold for it, but then was shocked to find out that I couldn't furnish it with gold, but crowns only. What a let down that was. I didn't have the crowns to furnish my house that I wanted so badly. I stood in my empty house for 30 minutes trying to find a way, a link, a quest marker, anything that would take me to someone where I could pay gold to completely furnish my house. But there was none. So, I wanted this house, so I purchased it with game gold. But now I own a perfectly awesome (empty) home.
Now don't get me wrong, I plan to craft items for my home, but with the chances of me getting all the blueprints I will need to do this will take me years to finally furnish my home. NO BUENO. In a world of microwaves and instant gratification, I would love to completely furnish my home now. Not 2 years down the road.
The most disappointing thing to me is, there is NO way other than crafting (that I can see) to completely furnish your home. I would pay the crowns to furnish my home from the crown store, but I don't see it offered. I can earn the gold to buy furnishings, and I can even accumulate crowns to do so. I would love to see an option to completely furnish my home (like it did when I first purchased it). if crowns it must be, then fine, I will get the crowns eventually. Gold, perfect, I have millions. But to only offer to buy furnishings piece by piece or craft it... most disappointing.
Please offer complete home furnishing so I don't have to stand in my empty, poorly lit home any more.
(2nd posting)

alexkdd99

runagate wrote: »

Mic1007 wrote: »

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

I'm more concerned with the fact that they say you get a free home. No, you get a free room. That is not a home.

Who says it can't be a home? If you live in it, it's your home. It's not a house, but a house is not necessarily a home.

I think it's fair to say that if trying to pan the camera gives you vertigo because there's no enough room then it's not so much a home as a prison cell.

Except some call a prison cell a home... So I guess it is still a home, just not one I would want to live in

alexkdd99

LokomotivBreath wrote: »

I am a HUGE fan boy of ESO. I play everyday and love the game. But my experience is much like others in this forum. That of disappointment. I went to purchase my house, previewed it, was more than happy to pay the gold for it, but then was shocked to find out that I couldn't furnish it with gold, but crowns only. What a let down that was. I didn't have the crowns to furnish my house that I wanted so badly. I stood in my empty house for 30 minutes trying to find a way, a link, a quest marker, anything that would take me to someone where I could pay gold to completely furnish my house. But there was none. So, I wanted this house, so I purchased it with game gold. But now I own a perfectly awesome (empty) home.
Now don't get me wrong, I plan to craft items for my home, but with the chances of me getting all the blueprints I will need to do this will take me years to finally furnish my home. NO BUENO. In a world of microwaves and instant gratification, I would love to completely furnish my home now. Not 2 years down the road.
The most disappointing thing to me is, there is NO way other than crafting (that I can see) to completely furnish your home. I would pay the crowns to furnish my home from the crown store, but I don't see it offered. I can earn the gold to buy furnishings, and I can even accumulate crowns to do so. I would love to see an option to completely furnish my home (like it did when I first purchased it). if crowns it must be, then fine, I will get the crowns eventually. Gold, perfect, I have millions. But to only offer to buy furnishings piece by piece or craft it... most disappointing.
Please offer complete home furnishing so I don't have to stand in my empty, poorly lit home any more.
(2nd posting)

Once you buy a house you can purchase tons of items from crown store. You enter decorator mode and then browse through the items.

Nestor

LokomotivBreath wrote: »

but then was shocked to find out that I couldn't furnish it with gold, but crowns only.

@LokomotivBreath

There are in game vendors for Furniture that sell for Gold. If you do the Intro Quest for Housing you are shown where one of them is. I have not explored them yet, but I imagine there is one vendor per zone, possibly in the Inn in the major city or maybe the bank, not sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b40Vjk7EGjI

runagate

Nestor wrote: »

While I agree with your last two points, your first three points are not quite on target.

1. There are Trophies that you can get, you get them from the Trophy Vendor, see this page

http://deltiasgaming.com/2017/01/07/eso-house-achievement-list/

2. The Ring of Mara statement was more an RP than anything else. You can limit visitors to your house to just one person, and not a guild. I did not read it as the Ring of Mara having anything to do with Housing.

3. You do not need the largest house to host Dueling Tourneys. Forsaken Stronghold is one that has excellent grounds for this. There are others too with good grounds, but I will let you go find them. Sure, there are some houses that have no grounds for dueling. And, finally, one of the cheapest houses in the game is right next to the built in Dueling Arena in Strormhaven. Which you would use anyway for any decent tournaments due to the 25 player limit. And, that place is always empty, probably because there was no Wayshrine near it, or any other reason to visit.

Yep, crafting furniture is a grind, and it is not a fun grind either. I don't think I will ever make much if anything for any houses. I may just sell the mats I have collected after looking at some recipes.

And, don't get me started on storage, I look at all the containers in my house and just cry that I can't put stuff in there like every other TES game I ever played. They gave some technical reason for it, but they could have carved out a Mules worth of storage in each house.

You are, of course, not only incorrect but guilty of not bothering to read. I am perfectly well aware of the trophy vendors - the whole point is that is not clear in the emailed communique, and that is the whole point. No one who read that statement at the time the email went out (and it is not I that necro'd this thread, but someone reacting to the bit about the Ring of Mara bit of the emailer) would think "furniture gained through achievements" but the already long preexisting Trophies bit of the quest journal - third tab on the vertical column under the Achievements tab if I remember correctly while not in-game.

The emailer is misleading. So if posting misinformation.

You and I didn't read that bit about the Ring of Mara that way because, of course, we vacuum up every little bit of information from all available sources. This is not true of most players, most especially those who would be getting their notification about this "feature" (which absolutely is not one in Homestead at all) from this misleading email.

The bit about dueling is also a reaction to the lack of specificity of the email, which is also misleading.

Nelson_Rebel

I have to agree. The homestead patch was a prime example of a fantastic idea with absolutely catastrophic execution.

The tools to use for housing are good, but the layouts, restrictions, and incredulous pricing for crown or gold was definitely a miss. Haven't and will not make a single gold or Crown sink from me on this. I was looking forward to spending if it had at least been something reasonable. But a car payment is not reasonable or the gold equivalent either.


Could have made much more profit zeni

andreasranasen

Nestor wrote: »

LokomotivBreath wrote: »

but then was shocked to find out that I couldn't furnish it with gold, but crowns only.

@LokomotivBreath

There are in game vendors for Furniture that sell for Gold. If you do the Intro Quest for Housing you are shown where one of them is. I have not explored them yet, but I imagine there is one vendor per zone, possibly in the Inn in the major city or maybe the bank, not sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b40Vjk7EGjI

Not really true, they are all either basic vendors (selling wooden boxes, boulders, planks, cheap looking table, basic trees), or Achievement Vendors (Has no actual furnitures to sell). You CANNOT buy furnitures in-game from vendors with in-game money. You can only be lucky to find blue prints or people selling furnitures in Guild Traders.