Skills Lost Their Level - Bound Aegis 4 is now Bound Armor 3

SydneyGrey

I will be upset if it ate the skillpoint. There are only a limited number of skillpoints you can get in the game, and that one might be just GONE. Not happy with that at all.

Especially since I can't get all the skyshards available in the game, since I don't play in groups.

gard

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

The skills were re-ordered. Since the skills take more exp to level the farther down the list they are, some skills were reduced in Stage.

Not something I agree with, but it's why it happened.

Thanks for the info. Definitely think this is something that was overlooked. I have 166 days played on my Sorc. Bound Armor was on my bar for a majority of my PVE play time. Now sure why it would lose so much experience.

It didn't lost any experience. At its old position, it had a maximum amount of XP it could accrue. That max amount is lower than what it takes to reach Level 4 in its new placement.

This is the decision they made. I don't think it's a very good decision, but there is a logic there.

Assume we swap slot 1 with 4 , both maxed.
After swap the skill in slot 1 is still maxed but in it's previous slot (4) it was worth more xp, which basicly was lost. The skill now in slot 4 is not max level anymore.

Where did the lost xp go, and why isn't reasonable to ask that it be fixed?

ADarklore

gard wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

The skills were re-ordered. Since the skills take more exp to level the farther down the list they are, some skills were reduced in Stage.

Not something I agree with, but it's why it happened.

Thanks for the info. Definitely think this is something that was overlooked. I have 166 days played on my Sorc. Bound Armor was on my bar for a majority of my PVE play time. Now sure why it would lose so much experience.

It didn't lost any experience. At its old position, it had a maximum amount of XP it could accrue. That max amount is lower than what it takes to reach Level 4 in its new placement.

This is the decision they made. I don't think it's a very good decision, but there is a logic there.

Assume we swap slot 1 with 4 , both maxed.
After swap the skill in slot 1 is still maxed but in it's previous slot (4) it was worth more xp, which basicly was lost. The skill now in slot 4 is not max level anymore.

Where did the lost xp go, and why isn't reasonable to ask that it be fixed?

I agree!! If they can swap skills, why can't they also swap XP that goes along with it... leave the XP gained on the skill 'location' and not tied to the skill itself!! Cannot believe they either didn't know this would happen or that they didn't forewarn us ahead of time in the patch notes of what to expect. Once again VERY POOR communication from ZOS on an issue they unnecessarily created.

baratron

I take it none of you are Dragonknights? When they switched the position of Chains and Lava Whip a few Updates ago, we all had this happen then.

It's not a big deal. Your morph level isn't affected. Just run a few delves until your skills are back where they should be.

altemriel

LOL, WTH?

SpazzmanNDQ

Were people really having an issue starting out with the skills the way they were? I mean damn I know they can do the statistics on which skills people use often and which ones they don't. The Bow change really annoys me cause most players don't use scattershot so why not make that the last skill instead of putting the most used skill on the tree last.

They should have just made it easier to lvl the weapon trees up like they did when people complained about not being able to easily access vigor and proxy det.

They need to move poison injection up to the third spot and move scatter shot last cause no one uses that

dramsb14_ESO

Kildayen wrote: »

I haven't checked all of my skills yet, but my Daedric Summoning skill Bound Armor was maxed out completely in both morphs. After the patch it is now only level 3 in the unmorphed version.

@ZOS_GinaBruno any info on this?

I noticed the same thing. No biggie really, as I can just skill it back up. But, I do realize that this will be alarming to some and having developer feedback on this would be beneficial.

Wow

It ate 1 skillpoint. Any fix?

notimetocare

This happened before with DK... lol. People never learn

OMA

Same here on DW and TH I lost my levels and morphs on a couple of skills in each line. I reported it as a bug and requested that my levels are restored. I'm CP600 and have been playing for 2 years with those skills, all maxed out no matter where in the tree they were originally and fully morphed to level 4. I don't see any real explanation, there isn't any excuse for the loss of these levels other than it's an unintended bug.

DagmarSLNY

The official response if there ever is one will probably be....

gard

dramsb14_ESO wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

I haven't checked all of my skills yet, but my Daedric Summoning skill Bound Armor was maxed out completely in both morphs. After the patch it is now only level 3 in the unmorphed version.

@ZOS_GinaBruno any info on this?

I noticed the same thing. No biggie really, as I can just skill it back up. But, I do realize that this will be alarming to some and having developer feedback on this would be beneficial.

Wouldn't you rather be doing what you want to do rather than grind a skill you've already levelled to max once?

Kildayen

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you please comment on this?

Wow

Any fix? It ates my skillpoint.

I know it because before the homestead patch, I had 4 Skill points left. Bound Armament maxed already. Now after homestead patch dropped, I still had 4 skill points but with Bound Armor resetted, so I had to consume 1 Skill Point to get my Bound Armament back....

ESOUser0x00

Wow wrote: »

Any fix? It ates my skillpoint.

I know it because before the homestead patch, I had 4 Skill points left. Bound Armament maxed already. Now after homestead patch dropped, I still had 4 skill points but with Bound Armor resetted, so I had to consume 1 Skill Point to get my Bound Armament back....

From the looks of it the fix will be skyshard hunting

Kammakazi

Any fix?

IronCrystal

Wow wrote: »

Any fix? It ates my skillpoint.

I know it because before the homestead patch, I had 4 Skill points left. Bound Armament maxed already. Now after homestead patch dropped, I still had 4 skill points but with Bound Armor resetted, so I had to consume 1 Skill Point to get my Bound Armament back....

I'm pretty sure if you respec it will give you all your skill points back.

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I will be upset if it ate the skillpoint. There are only a limited number of skillpoints you can get in the game, and that one might be just GONE. Not happy with that at all.

Especially since I can't get all the skyshards available in the game, since I don't play in groups.

Why do you have to be in a group to get every skyshard? I got every single one solo except the ones behind gates in Cyrodiil, but that's only because I was helping others get it at the same time.

BRogueNZ

Maybe tied to respec? Noticed this as well when I reset all skills.

Failing that, I can't see why we would simply 'forget' a skill and both it's morph's worth of XP considering the skill line hit 50 years ago.

idk

gard wrote: »

dramsb14_ESO wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

I haven't checked all of my skills yet, but my Daedric Summoning skill Bound Armor was maxed out completely in both morphs. After the patch it is now only level 3 in the unmorphed version.

@ZOS_GinaBruno any info on this?

I noticed the same thing. No biggie really, as I can just skill it back up. But, I do realize that this will be alarming to some and having developer feedback on this would be beneficial.

Wouldn't you rather be doing what you want to do rather than grind a skill you've already levelled to max once?

It is a new max and why does someone have to grind to level up the skill.

It will up playing the game. If this is the biggest issue you have with the game, so important to deal with, then you are in good shape.

BTW, Zos will not be changing the effects of rearranging the skills so I suggest you slot the skill and play the game. Soon enough you will have forgotten about this.

xboxNA corin6

OldGamerESO wrote: »

SpazzmanNDQ wrote: »

What was the explanation for changing the order of the skills?

The stated they wanted to raise the floor and lower the ceiling. In other words they want to make it faster for people to become better as well and limit how good they can be. Hence some of the buffs, nerfs and things like this.

So they re-ordered the skills to be in line with this new design philosophy.

What? Are you being sarcastic, or can you not properly read? They changed it for the sake of leveling and to make certain trees more usefull at lower levels. Example, hardened ward was replaced with bound armor because hardened ward is like a class defining ability while bound armor is just kind of like the icing on the cake type of ability that you don't really need for leveling. Same for destructive reach/force pulse change. Destructive reach is more utility, while force pulse is a spammable and pretty important. Player skill has nothing to do with leveled abilitys because well, a competent competetive person will level their skills before they take place in said skillful activity....

t3hdubzy

Moloch1514 wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

On second thought... after I respec'd one of my long-time characters, Bound Armor reset to level 3. So apparently it all depends on if you respec or not.

I just did a respec and had the exact same issue as above @ZOS_GinaBruno. My fully leveled morphs are now reset to Bound Armor III and Poison Arrow 1.

By the time they respond you will have already re leveled,

And no other skills did not get leveled, at least not in my case. I bought a skill i dont use just to see if it was already max level and it was not.

fgoron2000

Kildayen wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

The skills were re-ordered. Since the skills take more exp to level the farther down the list they are, some skills were reduced in Stage.

Not something I agree with, but it's why it happened.

Thanks for the info. Definitely think this is something that was overlooked. I have 166 days played on my Sorc. Bound Armor was on my bar for a majority of my PVE play time. Now sure why it would lose so much experience.

In the update patch notes (pc 2.7.5, not sure about console), ZOS stated that some of the skill abilities were being reordered, but I don't recall the reasoning behind it. So it wasn't something overlooked by them, unless you mean that there was going to be a negative impact to the player that they overlooked with this change. That I'd agree to...