Vivec City During The Time of ESO

Publius_Scipio

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

Cinbri

Ye, it is visible that Vivec in construction. Look on the ride side of screen

stevepdodson_ESO888

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

Publius_Scipio

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

So the story is basically Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask.

Sovjet

I hope it has a shadow on the ground that would be cool

UrQuan

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

That's definitely the impression I got as well, and I hope we're right about it being a big plot point for the story because that would be very cool.

Publius_Scipio

Cinbri wrote: »

Ye, it is visible that Vivec in construction. Look on the ride side of screen

Doesn't look like the city will be that big. Just assuming from the picture.

UrQuan

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Ye, it is visible that Vivec in construction. Look on the ride side of screen

Doesn't look like the city will be that big. Just assuming from the picture.

Well, it also looks like you can't see it all from that angle, but I do expect that since it's very much under construction it won't be nearly as big as it was in TES3.

Gilvoth

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

could only reach it by levitation. and it was turned into a small prison.
i wonder if the ministry of truth library is there at this time as well.

Abeille

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

Vivec is like: I'm gonna use it to make people love me for the next 700 years.

Gilvoth

Cinbri wrote: »

Ye, it is visible that Vivec in construction. Look on the ride side of screen

where are you getting all of these screen shots from, this is quite the view. [if accurate] this would seem very realistic to the story timeline.

Faulgor

The Palace, Temple, St Delyn and St Olms seem to be completed.
Redoran, Hlaalu, Telvanni and the Arena are under construction.
The Foreign Quarters doesn't even have a foundation at this time.

runagate

Cinbri wrote: »

Ye, it is visible that Vivec in construction. Look on the ride side of screen

That part's not under construction. Some poor newb they left in there as a lookout heard these guys sieging the postern wall to start a 50/50 and is now using wall repair kits, which is what's making that scaffolding appear.

Strider_Roshin

I hope we can still fight Vivec. I hate that guy.

Gilvoth

Faulgor wrote: »

The Palace, Temple, St Delyn and St Olms seem to be completed.
Redoran, Hlaalu, Telvanni and the Arena are under construction.
The Foreign Quarters doesn't even have a foundation at this time.

how do you know that ?

Gilvoth

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I hope we can still fight Vivec. I hate that guy.

yes, i agree.
i did enjoy killing him as well as having the new topic added to my choice of conversations with other people that ...

"i killed vivec"

and then they would be stunted in conversation momentarily and tell me to see a priest or that i need mental help"

LOL.

loved it!

Publius_Scipio

Faulgor wrote: »

The Palace, Temple, St Delyn and St Olms seem to be completed.
Redoran, Hlaalu, Telvanni and the Arena are under construction.
The Foreign Quarters doesn't even have a foundation at this time.

Is this actually accurate?

Bozrah

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

Baar Dau was a large moonlet sent to destroy Vivec City by the Daedric Prince, Sheogorath.[2] When Vivec saw Baar Dau falling from the sky, he merely lifted his hand and it froze above the city. Instead of destroying the meteor, Vivec decided to keep it above his city, the reason for this was so that if the people of Vivec ever stopped loving him, the meteor would descend on them and destroy them all.[3]

ShadowHvo

Faulgor wrote: »

The Palace, Temple, St Delyn and St Olms seem to be completed.
Redoran, Hlaalu, Telvanni and the Arena are under construction.
The Foreign Quarters doesn't even have a foundation at this time.

I really hope, and pray to these Cantons being built during the storyline itself. Being left only with Palace, Temple, St Delyn and St Olms will be quite depressing to say the least.

Dunmers have been waiting for long to actually get a proud and magnificent city ingame, and many really hopes for Vivec to be it.. But if half of it will be under construction, just like half of Mournhold suddenly being occupied by the Mages Guild and the Fighters Guild, then I will be sorrely disappointed, and rather depressed least to say.

Taleof2Cities

Whether or not the cantons are (will be) completed, I'm personally pleased that the city's layout looks almost exactly the same as Elder Scrolls III.

@ZOS_RichLambert evidently wasn't kidding when he said they literally loaded the Morrowind layout for this project.

Lambert was also wearing pants yesterday ... so there must have been some big announcement or something going on at ZOS ...

altemriel

Abeille wrote: »

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

Vivec is like: I'm gonna use it to make people love me for the next 700 years.

I wonder if we would maybe be able to port to the meteorite

Publius_Scipio

altemriel wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

Vivec is like: I'm gonna use it to make people love me for the next 700 years.

I wonder if we would maybe be able to port to the meteorite

Only reason to do that is if it is already a prison during this time. An asteroid full of prisoners ready to hit the surface.

Acrolas

altemriel wrote: »

I wonder if we would maybe be able to port to the meteorite

You wouldn't have to. It's only a meteorite if it has already hit the ground.

The meteor's already been confirmed as a significant plot point in the sales overview (both on Amazon and the ESO Store). So if they were trying to keep that a secret, well, they should have perhaps written it more ambiguously. Strangely enough, GameStop's sale page talks more about Vivec's role...

MasterSpatula

Personally, I hope they look to the Vivec Restructured mod to design the interiors of the cantons. It's so much better than the default designs that the default interiors are simply not part of my personal TES headcanon.

MythicEmperor

UrQuan wrote: »

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

That's definitely the impression I got as well, and I hope we're right about it being a big plot point for the story because that would be very cool.

From amazon's description

Cinbri

On screen I linked it also no visible meteor on the west of city. Probably main plot will be:

we travel along VVardenfell in attempt to recover Vivec's strength. In the end we will stand near him at stairs of his Temple and witness how Baar Dau will falling down and Vivec by his power will stop it in meters before it will fall on city. And since than it will levitate above city. So, in the very end it will be climax, same as when you fought Bal and used Aedric powers

During brief advertising on main page that dissapeared soon after it was picture of Baar Dau faaling on Vivec and it was huge. It should be visible on screen if it was there already.
@dwemer_paleologist you cant find screenshots on different sites where you purchase game. Also yo can come to Store section on this site and press to More Info of expansion. There will be listed all bonuses and several screens.
Info about Districts in construction taken from Developer Map and datamining of russians.

Cously

Morrowind was huge indeed. But if you stop to think about it, the vast majority of the world was empty. Maybe a mushroom here, a plant there, but let's be real: it lacked details. I can stomach and even marvel at a small scale Morrowind, provided they paint it full of details, like objects spread around here, a tent there, a group of skeletons in dubious positions, etc.

Faulgor

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

The Palace, Temple, St Delyn and St Olms seem to be completed.
Redoran, Hlaalu, Telvanni and the Arena are under construction.
The Foreign Quarters doesn't even have a foundation at this time.

Is this actually accurate?

It's from the datamined map. You can cross-reference it with the released screenshots to see that anything north of St Olms and St Delyn is still under construction.

Cinbri

Regarding Baar Dau, it should be visible on screens above as it big.

Vaoh

Bozrah wrote: »

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For those of us that remember Morrowind (2002) we remember the awesomeness of its sheer size. Multiple cantons with multiple levels, rooms, NPCs all over, even underground water works, etc. I know during the stream Mr. Lambert mentioned that turning the clock back 700 years meant that Vivec City is still under construction and that not every canton we remember will be there. Is this grounded in any previously known lore? Can we at this time know what to expect from the city itself size/canton wise? Or was this more of an arbitrary decision made by the devs on the scale of the city, which canton will be seen, etc?

I just hope that regardless of "construction" Vivec City will still be a sight that really catches your eye. And that it will provide a nice exploration experience.

I did notice at the end of the trailer shown during the announcement that the asteroid suspended over the city is there which is cool.

i think you might find that asteroid is the plot line of the story as it's not quite "suspended" there yet...more of a "holy cow what's that thing about to come crashing down on our heads"

Baar Dau was a large moonlet sent to destroy Vivec City by the Daedric Prince, Sheogorath.[2] When Vivec saw Baar Dau falling from the sky, he merely lifted his hand and it froze above the city. Instead of destroying the meteor, Vivec decided to keep it above his city, the reason for this was so that if the people of Vivec ever stopped loving him, the meteor would descend on them and destroy them all.[3]

Makes sense and is 100% accurate with this pic (also shown by @MythicEmperor)


If Vivec is losing his powers, he won't be able to continue holding back the meteor forever.

Tyrion87

I also think that Baar Dau will remain floating above the city of Vivec after completion of the main storyline, adding so much flavor and climate to the city itself.

(Source: UESP, link below):
Baar Dau (also known as the Ministry of Truth or Lie Rock) was a celestial rock which hovered above the city of Vivec. According to legend, it was flung from the Void (by either Sheogorath or its own malevolence, depending on the story) but was prevented from crashing into the city by the god Vivec. Vivec allowed it to remain hovering above the High Fane so that if the people of the city ever ceased to love him, the rock would fall and destroy them. Baar Dau was hollowed out by the Tribunal Temple and became the Ministry of Truth, where the Temple would imprison dissident priests and attempt to reform them. The high security prison was accessible only through levitation, and was directed by a Grand Inquisitor. The main areas were the Hall of Processing and the Prison Keep. Temple pilgrims offered levitation potions at the Shrine of Daring, which was dedicated to Vivec stopping the moon from destroying the city.

For more, check: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Baar_Dau.