Surprise Attack

LordSock

Can someone explain to me when I hit a mob w/ Surprise attack from stealth, I sometimes crit from 25k-30k or so. But when I sneak hit a player/PvP (tested dueling and Cyrodiil) I only hit for around 7-9k. Whats up what that?

Panth141

Battle spirit halves damage
Impen reduces crit damage bonus
Enemy player has more physical resistance than your reference mob
Enemy has CP into Hardy
Enemy or nearby enemy had Radiant Magelight slotted

Etc.

Gilvoth

LordSock wrote: »

Can someone explain to me when I hit a mob w/ Surprise attack from stealth, I sometimes crit from 25k-30k or so. But when I sneak hit a player/PvP (tested dueling and Cyrodiil) I only hit for around 7-9k. Whats up what that?

because the class needs to be rebuilt.
nightblade class simply has allways not performed as it should. invisibility does not work properly, we are constantly taken out of stealth and killed within a few seconds, as well as many other class skills simply fail.
please go to this link and help support a proper rebuilding of the nightblade class.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/317806/please-make-a-proper-assassin-class#latest

thankyourat

7k to 9k is a lot of damage in PvP. How much harder do you want to hit people lol

FriedEggSandwich

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

LordSock wrote: »

Can someone explain to me when I hit a mob w/ Surprise attack from stealth, I sometimes crit from 25k-30k or so. But when I sneak hit a player/PvP (tested dueling and Cyrodiil) I only hit for around 7-9k. Whats up what that?

because the class needs to be rebuilt.
nightblade class simply has allways not performed as it should. invisibility does not work properly, we are constantly taken out of stealth and killed within a few seconds, as well as many other class skills simply fail.
please go to this link and help support a proper rebuilding of the nightblade class.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/317806/please-make-a-proper-assassin-class#latest

This is the wrong answer to the OPs question.

Panth141 wrote: »

Battle spirit halves damage
Impen reduces crit damage bonus
Enemy player has more physical resistance than your reference mob
Enemy has CP into Hardy
Enemy or nearby enemy had Radiant Magelight slotted

Etc.

This is the correct answer to the OPs question.

Juhasow

NPC's takes double or triple dmg from crit when You hit them in the back from sneak. It works for all physical attacks not supprise attack only. That buff doesnt work on players. Just go with 2 hand behind any mob and use wrecking blow from sneak or heavy attack You'll also see nice dmg values on tooltips.

LordSock

thanks for the explanation @Panth141

makes sense now

goldenarcher1

Juhasow wrote: »

NPC's takes double or triple dmg from crit when You hit them in the back from sneak. It works for all physical attacks not supprise attack only. That buff doesnt work on players. Just go with 2 hand behind any mob and use wrecking blow from sneak or heavy attack You'll also see nice dmg values on tooltips.

Can testify to this.

Wrecking blow from sneak against mob in delve = 64k+ damage instant kill.

Wrecking blow from sneak against 561cp pvp player = hardly a dent and swift retribution!

DRXHarbinger

Do that op whilst wearing viper+veli+widowmaker and see what happens. You'll instakill anyone that isn't a perma tank. If they turn out to be so just walk away. They won't harm you. If all 3 procs go off its game over.

Lifecode666

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4dyYJo9FXg

FloppyTouch

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Do that op whilst wearing viper+veli+widowmaker and see what happens. You'll instakill anyone that isn't a perma tank. If they turn out to be so just walk away. They won't harm you. If all 3 procs go off its game over.

It's funny bc it's true