The bear Ulti is OP

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  • Libonotus
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    Abeille wrote: »

    Actually, mine will be grey too. I wonder how it will work. Will every Warden I make have a grey bear, or is it like something you equip so I can have a Warden with a grey bear and one with a brown bear?

    I'm picturing something similar to the Golden Compass.
    Make us be able to equip viper sting on our bears1111
    Edited by Libonotus on January 31, 2017 10:30PM
  • Abeille
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    Libonotus wrote: »

    I'm picturing something similar to the Golden Compass.
    Make bus be able to equip viper sting on our bears1111

    If it is something equippable, like a new collection category, they can totally sell "bear skins" in the future and maybe we can get a white bear with golden armor one day :open_mouth:
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Spoiler
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Libonotus
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    Abeille wrote: »

    If it is something equippable, like a new collection category, they can totally sell "bear skins" in the future and maybe we can get a white bear with golden armor one day :open_mouth:

    I want a white bear with proc sets1111
  • Tapio75
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    Just like with any pet class and the fool playing PVP, dont kill the player, just kill his/her pets until player kills you ;)
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  • Libonotus
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    Tapio75 wrote: »
    Just like with any pet class and the fool playing PVP, dont kill the player, just kill his/her pets until player kills you ;)

    The bear respawns and I'll be there spamming Cliff Racer attack or ice attacks. Winning
  • Enslaved
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    With Warden being a real deal and its frost affiliation, I see Nords as good race to pick as counter to Wardens. Resistance to frost, reduction of damage - perfect. Even if both are just 3%, that is 6% less damage from Wardens.
  • Libonotus
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    With Warden being a real deal and its frost affiliation, I see Nords as good race to pick as counter to Wardens. Resistance to frost, reduction of damage - perfect. Even if both are just 3%, that is 6% less damage from Wardens.

    Skyrim belongs to the Nords. Their frosty hearts and icy surroundings make them resistant to ice and cold to the touch
  • Feric51
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    So I'm assuming the bear only respawns if you have the proper level of Ultimate to cover the initial cast cost each time it needs to respawn.

    IE- It won't respawn if you don't have any ultimate pooled.
    Feric51
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    Darkness Falls: The Crusade survivor (you young kids will never know the struggle of text-based games)


  • Castagere
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    Libonotus wrote: »

    Lol I'm trolling chill

    I see ok but that was really funny good one.
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    My death recap shows 11 bears in 2 seconds pls nerf
  • Libonotus
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    My death recap shows 11 bears in 2 seconds pls nerf

    My god, that user Fall Damage is way too OP. Nerf his skills pls
  • Abeille
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    On the tips of the death recap, after being killed by the bear:

    If a Warden sends their bear after you, try using techniques like running for your life, realizing resistance is futile and accepting your impending doom.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Spoiler
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Libonotus
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    Abeille wrote: »
    On the tips of the death recap, after being killed by the bear:

    If a Warden sends their bear after you, try using techniques like running for your life, realizing resistance is futile and accepting your impending doom.

    Death Recap: Bow down to your overlord next time.
  • Malamar1229
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    I hope its as worthless as the sorc pets
  • Libonotus
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    I hope its as worthless as the sorc pets

    Sorc pets arent that worthless if done right
  • Malamar1229
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    FACT: Bears, Beats, Battlestar Galactica
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    "The bear Ulti is OP"

    Not only the Ult. The whole class will be OP (it is only a prediction). But seriously. Do you expect this class to be underperforming or at lest balanced ?! ZOS will want EVERYBODY. Yes EVERYBODY to play the game one more time and grind ALL off the stuff...
    So yes I expect this class to be insane OP power creep... (rip PvP ? )


    What bothers me is this:
    As far as going to level 50 is relatively easy, but getting all those skill points, skyshards, grinding skill lines (werewolf / vamp, undaunted, alliance war, crafting skill, getting all those titles again, achievements, motives... christ...

    Why people who played this game from the launch (back in the day when substitution was required) Have almost no hope to pick this class for a main character ? (without spending another year to create a second main character)...
    btw. If this class was even underperforming and was available from the game launch I would probably pick this class for main character - play style and RPG reasons)
  • Nefaras
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    ummmm exactly we do know nothing about the bear ult in detail and we know nothing about all other changes that (maybe) come with the update. So keep cool.

    And if not name you character " Leonardo DiCaprio" than you are save from bear attacks....oh wait...
  • Libonotus
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    Nefaras wrote: »
    ummmm exactly we do know nothing about the bear ult in detail and we know nothing about all other changes that (maybe) come with the update. So keep cool.

    And if not name you character " Leonardo DiCaprio" than you are save from bear attacks....oh wait...

    So have intercourse with bear in middle of Cyrodiil and win an Oscar. Mkay, got it
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Also stamina Warden is going to be underpowered vs magicka warden because if you spec into ice damage in the champion system, then you won't be able to put many points into physical damage.

    Buff Stam warden.

    Nerf bear.

    Glad we are starting the nerf/buff cries early this time.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on January 31, 2017 11:04PM
  • phairdon
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    Haha. Imagining the lag, when a zerg of 40 bears are moving somewhere in pvp.
    Now Warden class has the bear ultimate, how about a clannfear ultimate for us sorc's. The gigantic one as seen in the Imperial City.
    Edited by phairdon on January 31, 2017 11:06PM
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
  • Cadbury
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    bubbygink wrote: »
    Pick one:
    1. Wow I am sick an tired of people calling for nerfs to everything. How about instead we buff all the other ultimates up to the same level as the bear ultimate?
    2. You PvPers are always calling for nerfs that ruin PvE. Cut it out!
    3. I agree it needs a nerf, despite what all these forumwards may say. There is no counterplay to the bear - if you kill it then it just revives. Everything should have a counter!
    4. LOL Proc sets are what is really OP, not the bear ult.
    5. LOL Destro Ult is what is really OP, not the bear ult.
    6. LOL Heavy Armor is what is really OP, not the bear ult.
    7. Sounds like somebody just got killed by a bunch of bears and is coming to the forums to whine.
    8. You just need to kite the bear, this is really a L2P issue.
    9. Wrobel has clearly played a magward since launch so that is why he favors this OP ult so much.
    10. ZoS needs to bring back soft caps and we wouldn't have this problem anymore!
    11. The problem here is broken champion system that allows these bears to be so powerful.
    12. It isn't the bear ult that is the problem, it is the broken sets and ice staff that needs the nerf!
    13. Look, I have been playing warden since beta and have a grand overlord stamward and I can tell you with absolutely no bias whatsoever that bear ult actually needs a buff.
    14. Bear ult may be good in a 1v1 situation but this game isn't balanced around 1v1 and the bear ult is bad in open world.
    15. Until we get a separate bar that allows us to give commands to our pets bear ult will never be OP.

    No we have no need to even create a thread once ESO Morrowind goes live. It as all been covered here. Did I miss anything?

    I'll take a different route.

    The bear clips into my costume and part of the ground
    - shows screenshot -
    Really breaks my immersion.

    Also pls nerf Vamp Warden.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • Libonotus
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    Cadbury wrote: »

    I'll take a different route.

    The bear clips into my costume and part of the ground
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    Really breaks my immersion.

    Also pls nerf Vamp Warden.

    PHOTOSHOPPED1111
  • Cadbury
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    Libonotus wrote: »

    So have intercourse with bear in middle of Cyrodiil and win an Oscar. Mkay, got it

    That needs to be an unlockable achievement.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • Abeille
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    Libonotus wrote: »

    So have intercourse with bear in middle of Cyrodiil and win an Oscar. Mkay, got it

    When you have this king of thought, just ask yourself "What would Vivec do?".
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Spoiler
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • xXMichonneXx
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    Hmm, warden frost mage tank with a bear ulti , interesting.
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    50 Imperial Stamblade DC
    50 Argonian Templar Healer DC
    50 Altmer Mag Sorc DC
    50 Imperial Stam Templar DC
    50 Dunmer Mag DK DC
    50 Imperial Stam Sorc DC
    50 Nord Stam DK Tank DC
    50 Redguard Stam DK DPS DC
    50 Altmer Mag Templar DPS DC
    50 Imperial Stam Warden DC
  • Nyx2
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    Interesting how they made the Warden appear to be a weapon user with magic, now how will they handle that considering the current dismal state of hybrids in ESO.

    And Naryu is a dunmer stamina NB. The trailer means nothing regarding that.
  • Libonotus
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    Nyx2 wrote: »

    And Naryu is a dunmer stamina NB. The trailer means nothing regarding that.

    1v1 me
  • Annra
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    I bet the bear disappears as soon as you swap the skill bar.
  • Bam_Bam
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    STFU. i CAN'T BEAR IT ANYMORE!!!











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