The bear Ulti is OP

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Libonotus
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Thought I'd start off and beat the moaners to it
The bear ulti morph, whereby the Bear keeps respawning, would be OP in PvP
Imagine, you kill the bear, go straight for the warden and out of nowhere, the same bear appears and knocks you flat on your ass and tears you to pieces in seconds because the warden is buffing and healing it
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    I am imagining myself agreeing with you.
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  • Akrasjel
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    From what they said it may look like that
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  • timidobserver
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    And then the bear gets rekt instantly by 10 destro ults.
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  • Deadfinger6
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    I have no idea what your on about ....
  • SleepyTroll
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    Wait so the bear is only an ultimate and not actually there? Lame.
  • Wolfchild07
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    I'm sure it won't be immune to cc's and won't have a clue how to break free.
  • Abeille
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    You stay away from my bear.

    A bear, a bear! All black and brown and covered in hair!
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
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    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Siekobilly_ESO
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    I'm going to insult you, and say your accusations are baseless while I gently caress my respawning murder bear.
  • Libonotus
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    I'm sure it won't be immune to cc's and won't have a clue how to break free.

    It'll respawn though
  • Deadfinger6
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    Oh its Morrowind....got it
  • Mic1007
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    Wait so the bear is only an ultimate and not actually there? Lame.

    Oh, it stays up as long as you want it up. It's a toggle Ulti that stays up until you untoggle it or it dies (there's a morph to make it respawn automatically after death, but that sacrifices bonus damage from the other morph).
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  • Waffennacht
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    Really...?

    There are plenty of creatures in game right now.

    An invincible sword.
    A fire breathing croc demon
    A giant reptilian cassowary
    A smaller cassowary
    A bat woman
    A monkey demon
    A metal ball
    A flower
    A bear ghost fart
    Oh and an electrified pile of rocks
    Edited by Waffennacht on January 31, 2017 10:11PM
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  • Libonotus
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    Abeille wrote: »
    You stay away from my bear.

    A bear, a bear! All black and brown and covered in hair!

    My bear will be grey and eats yours for breakfast
  • VinyParsley2016
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    ZOS, you must nerf the bear ulti now !!!
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    Libonotus wrote: »
    The bear ulti morph, whereby the Bear keeps respawning, would be OP in PvP
    Imagine, you kill the bear, go straight for the warden and out of nowhere, the same bear appears and knocks you flat on your ass and tears you to pieces in seconds because the warden is buffing and healing it

    Sounds like an L2P issue to me.

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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    My Bear can beat up your Bear.
  • Libonotus
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    My Bear can beat up your Bear.

    My bear has already beaten yours up
  • Libonotus
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    I imagine a warden could easily 1vX purely because the bear would keep respawning, you could spamthe Cliff Racer skill or perma freeze everyone with Ice skills and let the bear do the work whilst you buff, heal, and use Ice Skillswhen needed
  • Ankael07
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    If it does little to no damage it wont be worth slotting an ultimate for it. And if it does similar damage to Atronach then the mobility + respawn will make it OP compared to it. Best of luck to Wrobel and his team for balancing this out
    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • Libonotus
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    If it does little to no damage it wont be worth slotting an ultimate for it. And if it does similar damage to Atronach then the mobility + respawn will make it OP compared to it. Best of luck to Wrobel and his team for balancing this out

    You can buff it to make it have more damage
  • bubbygink
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    Pick one:
    1. Wow I am sick an tired of people calling for nerfs to everything. How about instead we buff all the other ultimates up to the same level as the bear ultimate?
    2. You PvPers are always calling for nerfs that ruin PvE. Cut it out!
    3. I agree it needs a nerf, despite what all these forumwards may say. There is no counterplay to the bear - if you kill it then it just revives. Everything should have a counter!
    4. LOL Proc sets are what is really OP, not the bear ult.
    5. LOL Destro Ult is what is really OP, not the bear ult.
    6. LOL Heavy Armor is what is really OP, not the bear ult.
    7. Sounds like somebody just got killed by a bunch of bears and is coming to the forums to whine.
    8. You just need to kite the bear, this is really a L2P issue.
    9. Wrobel has clearly played a magward since launch so that is why he favors this OP ult so much.
    10. ZoS needs to bring back soft caps and we wouldn't have this problem anymore!
    11. The problem here is broken champion system that allows these bears to be so powerful.
    12. It isn't the bear ult that is the problem, it is the broken sets and ice staff that needs the nerf!
    13. Look, I have been playing warden since beta and have a grand overlord stamward and I can tell you with absolutely no bias whatsoever that bear ult actually needs a buff.
    14. Bear ult may be good in a 1v1 situation but this game isn't balanced around 1v1 and the bear ult is bad in open world.
    15. Until we get a separate bar that allows us to give commands to our pets bear ult will never be OP.

    No we have no need to even create a thread once ESO Morrowind goes live. It as all been covered here. Did I miss anything?
  • Libonotus
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    I pick number 7
  • Castagere
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    LOL really already nerf the bear. PVPer's are really something.
  • SirAndy
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    I hate to be the bear-er of bad news so please bear with me while i explain the bear essentials to you:

    Nobody bears ...

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  • Kolache
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    Well I assume my bear will be able to taunt in PvE... and we know bears wear helmets and shoulders in battle...
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    So I'd add to the original prediction the part where my bear procs tremorscale :open_mouth:
    Something being unbalanced in 1v1 does not imply that it is balanced in group play.
  • austinwalter87ub17_ESO
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    I originally was looking forward to a Cold damage caster Warden.

    But a 2hand/bow stamina build is tempting.

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  • ADarklore
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    It will be OP until they nerf it to make it utterly useless... so then we'll have a Warden class with a useless Ultimate 'pet'... probably within 3-6 months of release. Interesting how they made the Warden appear to be a weapon user with magic, now how will they handle that considering the current dismal state of hybrids in ESO.
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  • Abeille
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    Libonotus wrote: »

    My bear will be grey and eats yours for breakfast

    Actually, mine will be grey too. I wonder how it will work. Will every Warden I make have a grey bear, or is it like something you equip so I can have a Warden with a grey bear and one with a brown bear?
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Spoiler
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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    Despite the joking, whenever a new class is brought into a game with PvP, that new class is OP for awhile.
  • Libonotus
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    Castagere wrote: »
    LOL really already nerf the bear. PVPer's are really something.

    Lol I'm trolling chill
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