BATTLEGROUNDS COMING with eso morrowind!

lappas

So even though i doubted it it is finally here 4v4v4. Plus a new class, warden:)

How do you think it will play out? of course there wil be "op metas" but it will still be very nice.

Malamar1229

excited.

but worried too.

I hope the existing classes get fixed before June and I am also a little woozy over battlegrounds and what that will do to class balance

Ghettokid

Very excited. Especially capture the flag-type battleground sounds fun.

Baconlad

WOOOOOO MAJOR CLASS BALANCING FINALLY IN JULY. oh and the new class...meh...

Baconlad

June*

Ballzy321

With all the cancerous builds out there. Heavy armor temps and dks are all you will see

Rohamad_Ali

No faction restrictions on groups .

bubbygink

Super hyped. Looks like they did a great job.

I do think some balance changes could be needed though because right now I expect to see all groups of heavy armor, sword and board + ice staff magplars that are practically unkillable and then all unload their destro ults at the same time to wipe groups.

ManDraKE

Well, maybe after a couple of months of battlegrounds, we can finally see a real nerf to heavy armor.

I hope we can have a non-cp battleground too.

out51d3r

Goodbye Zergs. Good bye Equestrian Simulator 2014.

Hello exponential increase of class balance threads.

Sandman929

I'm a little concerned by hearing "assigned to a group" in the livestream. If there isn't the possibility of creating a group, there's just no point. No one will find themselves in an optimized PUG.
If it's like Dungeon Finder and you get 4 people together to queue in, then it's fine.

I'd like the option to set up private matches (removed from leaderboards) as well for intra-guild matches 4v4v4, but maybe I'm dreaming here.

Rohamad_Ali

After seeing you have to buy the expansion to get in I'm worried these will not have population needed to be successful .

Sandman929

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

After seeing you have to buy the expansion to get in I'm worried these will not have population needed to be successful .

That confused me too. So this isn't included with ESO plus?

Rohamad_Ali

Sandman929 wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

After seeing you have to buy the expansion to get in I'm worried these will not have population needed to be successful .

That confused me too. So this isn't included with ESO plus?

Nope and you can't buy it with crowns either lol .

ManDraKE

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm a little concerned by hearing "assigned to a group" in the livestream. If there isn't the possibility of creating a group, there's just no point. No one will find themselves in an optimized PUG.
If it's like Dungeon Finder and you get 4 people together to queue in, then it's fine.

I'd like the option to set up private matches (removed from leaderboards) as well for intra-guild matches 4v4v4, but maybe I'm dreaming here.

this will open new problems. I played another MMO with a similar PvP battleground system, and the queues were a pain in the ass. The diference beetwen premade groups and pug groups was abismal, premades were always facerolling pug groups.

There should be separated queues for pugs and for premade groups. Otherwise the queues will be only used for top-noch pvp premade groups and the rest of the population won't even want to touch them

Waffennacht

ManDraKE wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm a little concerned by hearing "assigned to a group" in the livestream. If there isn't the possibility of creating a group, there's just no point. No one will find themselves in an optimized PUG.
If it's like Dungeon Finder and you get 4 people together to queue in, then it's fine.

I'd like the option to set up private matches (removed from leaderboards) as well for intra-guild matches 4v4v4, but maybe I'm dreaming here.

this will open new problems. I played another MMO with a similar PvP battleground system, and the queues were a pain in the ass. The diference beetwen premade groups and pug groups was abismal, premades were always facerolling pug groups.

There should be separated queues for pugs and for premade groups. Otherwise the queues will be only used for top-noch pvp premade groups and the rest of the population won't even want to touch them

Unless no pre mades at all. It's another option, not something I necessarily advocate but an option all the same.

Either way, super stoked!

ManDraKE

Waffennacht wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm a little concerned by hearing "assigned to a group" in the livestream. If there isn't the possibility of creating a group, there's just no point. No one will find themselves in an optimized PUG.
If it's like Dungeon Finder and you get 4 people together to queue in, then it's fine.

I'd like the option to set up private matches (removed from leaderboards) as well for intra-guild matches 4v4v4, but maybe I'm dreaming here.

this will open new problems. I played another MMO with a similar PvP battleground system, and the queues were a pain in the ass. The diference beetwen premade groups and pug groups was abismal, premades were always facerolling pug groups.

There should be separated queues for pugs and for premade groups. Otherwise the queues will be only used for top-noch pvp premade groups and the rest of the population won't even want to touch them

Unless no pre mades at all. It's another option, not something I necessarily advocate but an option all the same.

Either way, super stoked!

i dont think that is a good idea, if you have a premade group with friends and you want to queue, that should be possible. There are 2 ways to go about it:

- Separate queues for pugs and premade groups
- One queue that use an algoritm that tries to match premades with premades and pugs with pugs.

They also should create somekind of ranking system, something like ELO, so is a friendly system to everyone. Even guys that know nothing about pvp can use it and enjoy playing other newbies, and gives them a chance to improve (and bring more players into pvp). If they throw everyone to the wolfs, the system will be empty in 1 month.

thankyourat

I thought I would be excited, but I'm not. It feels like each group will have multiple templars. Maybe they can do it where each class has a que and there has to be 1 of each class in a group, because if a group can have 2 or 3 magplars in it I don't want to play

aLi3nZ

As some who loves to duel and small scale pvp in ic but hates cyrodil - this is great news. Looking forward to it. Will be interesting to see if we can join a battleground using group finder and then be paired with low levels. Would be cool if they paired up with similar cp or skill level players.

Lexxypwns

"Tighter spaces"

That just sounds like its easier for destro ult to melt people

exeeter702

Sorry but im going to be a downer here for a second. I feel like im in the minority but 3 way 4v4v4 is terrible. Espeically if you are going to implement ctf and koth modes. Faction restriction removal is awesome but all ee really needed was some nice well rounded 8v8 bgs with said modes.

thankyourat

exeeter702 wrote: »

Sorry but im going to be a downer here for a second. I feel like im in the minority but 3 way 4v4v4 is terrible. Espeically if you are going to implement ctf and koth modes. Faction restriction removal is awesome but all ee really needed was some nice well rounded 8v8 bgs with said modes.

That would be so predictable though. It would just turn into time your ultimates to wipe. With a 3 way conflict you won't be able to commit to a bomb because you would be left exposed after your bomb is up

exeeter702

thankyourat wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Sorry but im going to be a downer here for a second. I feel like im in the minority but 3 way 4v4v4 is terrible. Espeically if you are going to implement ctf and koth modes. Faction restriction removal is awesome but all ee really needed was some nice well rounded 8v8 bgs with said modes.

That would be so predictable though. It would just turn into time your ultimates to wipe. With a 3 way conflict you won't be able to commit to a bomb because you would be left exposed after your bomb is up

of course..but the problem with 3 way BGs is the better you do, they more disadvantaged you become.

silky_soft

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

After seeing you have to buy the expansion to get in I'm worried these will not have population needed to be successful .

Exactly, if it's not a base patch item then it's going to be junk after 2 weeks. The fulltime pvp'ers that are left wont pay as we are just here waiting for CU and CF.

PvE achievement fankids come in, get achievements then leave, rip bg.

SirCritical

Baconlad wrote: »

WOOOOOO MAJOR CLASS BALANCING FINALLY IN JULY. oh and the new class...meh...

Balancing with every patch means no balance ever.

altemriel

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

After seeing you have to buy the expansion to get in I'm worried these will not have population needed to be successful .

40 USD/EUR is nothing for such a huge area, I bet most of the TES Morrowind fans will buy it and also a great portion of ESO freaks (like me )

Lifecode666

What needs to happen is:


1. Balance.

2. A vendor that gives you a starter pack of items that can be used in Battlegrounds. No other items can be used in the match.

3. If you win you get tokens, if you loose you get less tokens.

4. Pvp lvl's. when you ding you can purchase new items with tokens.

Everything else will fail.

Sign up with x4 reactive transmutation magica templars.... whatcha gonna do?

sadownik

altemriel wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

After seeing you have to buy the expansion to get in I'm worried these will not have population needed to be successful .

40 USD/EUR is nothing for such a huge area, I bet most of the TES Morrowind fans will buy it and also a great portion of ESO freaks (like me )

And if its not so huge?

Ashamray

Lifecode666 wrote: »

What needs to happen is:

Sign up with x4 reactive transmutation magica templars.... whatcha gonna do?

Depends on how ZOS will calculate win - lose - draw. Those HPplars or Reactivehealers won't be able to "earn BG points" to win if they'll meet an adequate opponent teams.

Ballzy321

Capture the flag with unkillable bubble shield temps lol sounds like fun

Paraflex

We haven't gotten a lot of information except it's 4v4v4

I hope they have

different size groups (6v6v6 up to 10v10v10)
non CP BG
Ranking system
Premade group system
Pug solo que system
Exclusive BG rewards/vendor

The worst thing they can do is let premade people fight the Pugs...everyone will hate BGs and stay away.