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Can't defeat the clannfear

  • GawdSB
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    That stupid clannfear handed me my ass a couple times my first time lol.

    What class are you?
  • Tewhano
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    Thank you everyone for your responses. I am new to ESO but not to Elder Scrolls having played them all. This is my second character. The first one was my learning character that I had to abandon because I made too many mistakes in leveling. A lot of what you offered as suggestions was, I am afraid, lost to me as I didn’t understand the terminology. I’ll Google it later today and form a strategy to defeat this clannfear.

    I knew about the red telegraphed areas and tried to stay out of them. I am getting old and my hand to eye coordination is degrading a bit. I didn’t know about the food so I will try that. I start the quest after I have my gear repaired but of course there isn’t any place to repair them in Coldharbour. My first character was able to buy repair kits but so far with this character I have not come across them in the blacksmith shops.

    I must be melee built because the clannfear completely ignores Lyris and she doesn’t seem to do much damage if any to the beast. I didn’t realize that the clannfear rejuvenates health while on the mound, something to consider as well.

    My character is a level 12 Breton Templar. Magicka is 5, Health is 5 and Stamina is 4. I have in my slots Ransack 1, Heroic Slash 1, Binding Javelin 1 and Vampire’s Bane 1. My ultimate slot has Nova 3.
    Again, I thank you all for your suggestions.
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  • Runefell
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    I remember my first time encountering him was waaay back at release. He glitched out and just stood there as my character stabbed him repeatedly until he died.

    Of course, when I started through with my second character, the fight wasn't nearly so easy. :wink:

    I would highly suggest making sure your gear is up to your level. It's amazing how much difference that makes. If you're in a guild, ask if somebody would be willing to make you a set, those can help out a TON. I'll often make stuff for people in my guilds for people still leveling, especially the low levels having a bit of trouble. The only thing is I often don't have enough low level material, so sending that to the crafter is a major help/courtesy.

    Also, not sure how you're specc'd out, but put most of your attributes into either stamina or magicka, whichever you use to fight, along with some health enchants on the armor to keep your health up. You can always respec your character in main city of the second zone of your alliance, and it's really cheap at low levels, so there's no way to permanently 'mess up' a character. You can always just redistribute things. If you haven't been to the city yet and don't feel like running the whole way, teleport to a guildie there (you can always teleport to anybody online in your guild roster), or ask for a port there. Many people are willing to help.

    Other then that, like others have said, blocking and interrupting enemies when they get those red or white lines around them can make a huge difference in fights, or simply dancing around the charge attack so it doesn't hit you.
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  • Dagoth_Rac
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    Do you have Rushed Ceremony (can be morphed to Honor the Dead or Breath of Life) unlocked? That is your best survivability skill as a Templar. A quick burst heal that you can use as often as you like (as long as you don't run out of magicka). Running solo, you probably don't want all damage skills on your bar. Some of the tougher enemies will require you to heal yourself.

    What level is your gear? The way the scaling works in this game is that gear is powerful at your level, but gets weaker as you outlevel it. So a Level 3 sword wielded by a Level 3 character is quite a bit stronger than a Level 3 sword wielded by a Level 12 character. It is not that your damage is standing still if you do not get up-to-level weapons. Your damage actually goes down as you outlevel a weapon. You can easily and unintentionally actually get weaker as you level up if you don't keep up with slotting in higher level gear as you go along. So if you are Level 12 and your weapon is a Level 4 weapon you got as soon as you reached the mainland, go hunt down a Level 12 weapon. Gear will scale to you, so you can just kill random monsters on your starter island and get gear at your level.
  • Tewhano
    Tewhano
    Thanks for the new info. I have in slot 1 the Breath of Life. I checked my gear and the only level 12 weapon I have is a quest given iron maul. I use one handed weapons mostly though. My axe is level 10 used with a level 7 shield. I only have one level 12 armor (bracers) with the rest being 9 or 10. I’m not having much luck making or improving things at the blacksmith. Perhaps it is time I joined a guild.
    PC - NA

    Tewhano : Breton Templar - DC
    Tewhano Tane : Breton Templar - DC
    Tewhano Whetu : Breton Templar - DC
    Ruanuku Pakeha : High Elf Sorcerer - AD
    Sevan Teledas : Dark Elf Sorcerer - EP

    'I stands all that I can stands,
    and I can't stands no more.' - Popeye
  • waterfairy
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    Tewhano wrote: »
    I must be melee built because the clannfear completely ignores Lyris and she doesn’t seem to do much damage if any to the beast....
    .... I have in my slots Ransack 1,.
    @Tewhano
    Ransack is the reason, it taunts the enemy and makes it come after you.

    In this game sword and shield are for a tank, along with heavy armor. If you don't plan on tanking then I suggest switching up your skills and gear now before you get too deep and have to re-roll everything.

    Also another thing to note is that it's best to focus on either stamina or magic skills...having both types of skills and spending attribute points on both will only make you weaker in the long run.
  • Tomg999
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    A good thing about Clanfears and similar mobs is when they do that attack where they roll out the red rug and are about to run down it, you can roll dodge to the side and turn and they will run right past you sideways. You can then attack them with a ranged attack and they can't do anything about it, they are compelled to run down the red rug.
    Just keep Circling and attacking.

    BTW - If you are along in the Fighters Guild quest line Silver Shards is a nice skill to have if you are more of a Stamina Melee type, since it gives you a ranged attack and is good against Daedra.
    Edited by Tomg999 on January 24, 2017 5:19PM
  • MasterSpatula
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    Vigarr wrote: »
    What level are you? If something is giving you trouble then just level up and try again.

    Leveling up is largely irrelevant in the 1T world.

    So maxed, morphed skills, passives, larger stam/magic pools, stronger gear, etc. are irrelevant?

    Battle leveling overscales lower-level characters to make up for their lack of passives and skills, so to some extent, yes.

    Of course gear quality makes a difference, but if you're using better than blue gear while leveling, you're being wasteful. Gear level doesn't make much of a difference, unless of course you're letting yourself greatly outlevel your gear. Your magica/stamina pools will actually be larger at low levels than they would be at higher levels (barring set bonuses and higher-level enchantments).

    CP still applies. Player skill still applies greatly. But all the things you mentioned are actually largely irrelevant in One Tamriel, because Battle Leveling compensates for all of them.
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  • kojou
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    Tewhano wrote: »
    Thank you everyone for your responses. I am new to ESO but not to Elder Scrolls having played them all. This is my second character. The first one was my learning character that I had to abandon because I made too many mistakes in leveling. A lot of what you offered as suggestions was, I am afraid, lost to me as I didn’t understand the terminology. I’ll Google it later today and form a strategy to defeat this clannfear.

    I knew about the red telegraphed areas and tried to stay out of them. I am getting old and my hand to eye coordination is degrading a bit. I didn’t know about the food so I will try that. I start the quest after I have my gear repaired but of course there isn’t any place to repair them in Coldharbour. My first character was able to buy repair kits but so far with this character I have not come across them in the blacksmith shops.

    I must be melee built because the clannfear completely ignores Lyris and she doesn’t seem to do much damage if any to the beast. I didn’t realize that the clannfear rejuvenates health while on the mound, something to consider as well.

    My character is a level 12 Breton Templar. Magicka is 5, Health is 5 and Stamina is 4. I have in my slots Ransack 1, Heroic Slash 1, Binding Javelin 1 and Vampire’s Bane 1. My ultimate slot has Nova 3.
    Again, I thank you all for your suggestions.

    You need to discover the beauty of Puncturing Sweeps (morph of Puncturing Strikes). It heals you while you kill things and will make leveling your Templar so much easier.

    Also if you are going for more of a Magicka based build I would forget putting points into Stamina for now and just use abilities that use Magicka to fight.

    Lob a Vampire's Bane at the Clanfear then use Puncturing Seeps to chew down it's health and after about 6 seconds refresh Vampires Bane.

    Also for leveling consider changing Vampires Bane to Reflective Light. I found that being able to hit 3 targets was more beneficial than doing more damage on one when leveling and questing.


    Edit: One thing I just noticed... "I have in my slots Ransack" That is a taunting skill and the reason the Clanfear is not staying on Lyris. You can leave that skill on your bar to level if you are leveling a tank, but don't use it unless you want whatever you are using it on to focus on you.
    Edited by kojou on January 24, 2017 6:00PM
    Playing since beta...
  • AzuraKin
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    nb- funnel health, path of darkness, sap essence, are all options to do damage and heal yourself.
    sorc - surge + anything
    templar - bol or jabs
    dk - dragon blood
    dw - bloodcraze or whatever its called.
    restro staff - obvious
    2nd - rally and cleave shield morph
    pvp - vigor
    v160 spellsword (nightblade)
    v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
    v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
    v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
    v160 warrior (DragonKnight)
    v160 assassin (nightblade)
    v160 swordsman (sorcerer)
    v160 spellsword (nightblade)
  • Artemiisia
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    If you're having trouble with questing PvE, then I would assume that you're quite new to the game.

    In this game, you're supposed to actually use and spam your abilities rather than hack and slash with your light and heavy attacks.

    Try to do more of that, and you'll find game content much easier.
    This was my biggest problem when I first started playing. I was used to previous TES games where I mostly played by swinging a sword at things, and used magic rarely and situationally. That's not how ESO is built and I struggled for quite a while figuring that out. Maybe if I had a background in MMOs I wouldn't have had that problem.

    lol I didnt know what block was, so I almost died to a mudcrab like mob when I started :D
  • OldGamerESO
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    I can't add anything to the already great responses.

    But I want to say that the THREAD NAME IS GREAT!

    CAN'T DEFEAT THE CLANNFEAR

    That could be a guild name!

  • Tewhano
    Tewhano
    Thanks again folks. I am about to go back and try out all the good advice given.
    PC - NA

    Tewhano : Breton Templar - DC
    Tewhano Tane : Breton Templar - DC
    Tewhano Whetu : Breton Templar - DC
    Ruanuku Pakeha : High Elf Sorcerer - AD
    Sevan Teledas : Dark Elf Sorcerer - EP

    'I stands all that I can stands,
    and I can't stands no more.' - Popeye
  • UrQuan
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    Tewhano wrote: »
    I must be melee built because the clannfear completely ignores Lyris and she doesn’t seem to do much damage if any to the beast....
    .... I have in my slots Ransack 1,.
    @Tewhano
    Ransack is the reason, it taunts the enemy and makes it come after you.

    In this game sword and shield are for a tank, along with heavy armor. If you don't plan on tanking then I suggest switching up your skills and gear now before you get too deep and have to re-roll everything.

    Also another thing to note is that it's best to focus on either stamina or magic skills...having both types of skills and spending attribute points on both will only make you weaker in the long run.
    ^Pretty much this. Lyris won't ever really do any damage to the Clannfear, but she will make it focus a significant amount of its attacks on her... If you don't use Ransack. Ransack forces the Clannfear to ignore Lyris entirely and only attack you.

    Using sword and shield is really not good for solo questing, as you're going to be putting out far less damage than you would with any other weapon skill line. With sword & shield your weapon damage is lower than it would be with any weapon that takes 2 hands, and lower than dual wielding one-handed weapons. This directly affects the amount of damage your stamina-based skills do (as they are based off a combination of your weapon damage and the size of your stamina pool), as well as indirectly affecting the amount of damage your magicka-based skills do (because your spell damage is based off your base weapon damage, and magicka skills are based off your spell damage and the size of your magicka pool). The sword & shield skill line is meant for tanking - being able to force enemies to attack you instead of your friends, and being able to mitigate more damage than you could otherwise.

    It's definitely best to focus on either magicka or stamina, and not both. Pick one and start putting all of your attribute points into it (you can respec in the main city in the second full zone of each alliance if you want to - it's early enough in the leveling process for you that this won't be a big deal), while focusing mostly on using skills that use that resource pool. If you pick stamina you'll often find that you still want to use 1 or more magicka-based class skills for utility (more rarely the reverse is true if you pick magicka), and this is fine, but using damage-dealing skills that use magicka if you're primarily stamina (or vice versa) really doesn't work well, as the damage they do will be unimpressive at best.

    Once you've picked magicka or stamina (personally I'd consider a magicka templar to be much easier to play), you'll want to pick what weapon you use based on that. If you're going magicka you generally want to use a staff of one type or another, as they're the only ones whose skills are magicka-based, and therefore scale based on your spell damage and the size of your magicka pool.. If you're going stamina, any of the other weapons is fine, except that as noted sword & shield is the worst for anything other than tanking (it's almost required for tanking).

    You'll also want to pick your armour based on whether you've picked magicka or stamina. Generally you want mostly light armour if you're going with magicka and mostly medium armour if you're going with stamina. While you're leveling you're going to want to have at least 1 piece of each armour weight equipped, though, so that you're leveling all 3 armour skill lines at the same time. That way, if you decide later on that you want to go in a different direction and respec you won't be starting from scratch with leveling the armour skill line. While you're doing this, it's best if you can use a heavy cuirass, as the chest piece gives the most protection.

    Here's a good guide to the basics of setting up your build, that's intended for newer players:
    https://youtu.be/4pLdtQjKPcU
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