Why so serious? - Bit of a social experiment

NolaArch

ArchMikem wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I don't give a single Skeever's rump about Leaderboards, cause what, you get your name and a number on a list and that's it? Woopdeedoo.

Is that skill shaming I see? It's still an insult even if the person in question is better at the game than you. No need for that at all.

What in the world is skill shaming? What you saw is me stating that there's no incentive for being placed on the leaderboards. If there actually was even I would try for it.

No incentive to you, it seems. But for others, it's a nice personal goal to work toward in their free time, and it feels good to achieve it. If that's what someone finds they care about, good on them. If you don't care about it, move along and don't assume no one does nor should they.

UrQuan

By the way, for anyone who enjoys having their character do various emotes, there's an awesome addon that I recently discovered. I don't remember what it's called, but I'll come back to this thread and post the name when I get home.

Basically what it does is replace the idle animations with various emotes that are at least somewhat dynamic to the location where you character is, and it lets you somewhat customize the emotes that it will do (like you can choose to never have your character pray, etc). It also does other stuff like you can set it so that your character will wear a costume (either a specific one you set, or a random one from all of your costumes, or you can blacklist some costumes so that they won't be on the random list) when in towns, but have armour show outside of towns.

What I really like the addon for is the emotes replacing the idle animations. I can go AFK and come back to find my character dancing, or drumming, or praying, or throwing up, or sitting down, or whatever. It's great.

Edit: Loreplay! The addon is called Loreplay, and it's awesome.

IzanagiTensei-O

SaRuZ wrote: »

Because they're super 1337 hardcore uber skillz bro. "Git gud & stop pugging scrub."

Since when did pouring hundreds of thousands of hours into an MMORPG become a bragging point? People take this game far too seriously. Especially when it doesn't require any skill, just time invested to reach level cap and max skill points, google search the best builds and gear and spend a year gaming all day and wahla, you "got gud." Lol, sad really.

2nd time ive seen something like this said, maybe it was you tgen too, idk, but seems like the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard, seriously. was gunna use gif of ali rope-a-doping foreman, and say-
no skill, he just bought the best shorts and gloves, watched videos of boxing, then boxed all day for years, and voila! its sad really.
thats what skill is. making something 1st nature through repetition. time and energy is all we have to "barter" with for anything,
and i dont get it. are you saying you do all you said you do and then you get to just walk up to people and they just fall over dead? what happens when all gear/investments are equal? both just fall over or what? so weird.

dem0n1k

The IC sewer bosses are sooo serious! Try dancing to them... they do not appreciate it! They just clobber you & walk away pulsing angrily. y so srs bro!?

kargen27

I usually have good luck finding fun people. The arena in Gold Coast I convinced four other people to do the sitchair and see who was the last one sitting. The fight started and two people thinking we would jump up and help engaged in battle. One of them finally ran a mob through where we were sitting and that forced us all up. Was going to give the winner 1000 gold but he ran off after the battle before I could.

I like to jump on beds in rooms where I know people have to go for a quest. They usually stare for a few seconds probably wondering if I am trying to get something they need to get also. Most after a few seconds go their way. Some though join in on the jumping for a bit and twice I had a decent band playing while I jumped.

I also like to become a skeleton and play dead inside delves. I usually drop dead by the door people can use as a shortcut after whompin the boss. Soon as they are near me I jump up and see if they attack me or not.

When nobody is around I like to sometimes target a boss then run when on one of my lower level characters. I won't do it while someone is around because I don't want to interfere with them killing the boss if that is why they are there.

Climbing trees is something else I enjoy and have begun to try and hide in the branches and hit passersby with mudballs.

Usually I can get two or three people to join in the fun for a bit at least.

Oh and I also often send people gold if I see them actually help another player in zone chat. When someone in zone chat asks for gold or something I almost always send a little with a not along the lines of here's a start.

It's no wonder I can't get through vMA. I'm to busy goofing off. And speaking of I once swam completely (as much as I could) one zone just to see how long it would take. Took a little over two hours.

Danikat

There are many ways to play 'casually' and have fun that don't consist of activating an emote and then staying in one spot unable to move or even open a menu because you'll cancel it and ruin the "fun".

I think I definitely qualify as a casual player and I couldn't care less about leaderboards and things, but I've never really seen the appeal of randomly dancing in the middle of a crowded spot. Sometimes with context it can be fun; another game I play has playable instruments (as in you actually push the keys to decide which notes to play, not type /lute or whatever and get a generic tune). When I find someone playing well, or a group playing together I'll /dance to it. (Although annoyingly the animation rarely matches the tune.) And then there's things like when my guild leader briefly went AFK at the start of a guild event and came back to find himself surrounded by dancers. That was funny, especially with voice chat.

But in general playing casually and focusing on having fun for me means taking my time, reading quest dialogue, talking to NPCs even if they're not part of a quest, stopping to look at (and take screenshots of) the scenery, choosing skills that sound interesting and not worrying about whether some random with a youtube channel has decreed that we are permitted to use it this month. And of course talking to other players as I'm going along.

Now it might be possible to do some of that while letting the dance animation run. But I don't think it's accurate at all to say that if someone is not willing to stop what they're doing and stand in one place because someone else is already doing it that they're not having fun in the game and are only interested in 'serious' play.

Kuroinu

I find this games targeting system for player interaction kinda clumsy with the quickslot-esque menu. This usually leads me to taking way longer to react to someone doing something and whoever has usually moved on by the time I look up w/e emote I wanna type correctly lol.

The targeting system I believe is partially to blame for some instances of seemingly anti-social behavior. Honestly OP, I wouldn't worry about it too much, you're overthinking some things here.

kargen27

Climbing things. Almost got to the top.



A little painting. Though the fun part of this happened out of the game.



warm bath



When I see a guy in a wedding dress I put on the tux and go stand beside them. For some reason I find this really funny. Easily amused I guess.

ArchMikem

Browiseth wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I don't give a single Skeever's rump about Leaderboards, cause what, you get your name and a number on a list and that's it? Woopdeedoo.

Is that skill shaming I see? It's still an insult even if the person in question is better at the game than you. No need for that at all.

What in the world is skill shaming? What you saw is me stating that there's no incentive for being placed on the leaderboards. If there actually was even I would try for it.

There was certainly an insulting tone to your post, the way I read it. Some people enjoy being skilled at a video game and playing it at a very high level; some people don't. Leaderboards are their own incentive; a way of proving one's time and dedication.

An insult requires a target. You can't be insulting if you're not specifying a recipient of said insult. If you must fish for one then really I insulted the Leaderboard's existence itself, not the players who get on it.

Not to mention,

It's still an insult even if the person in question is better at the game than you.

Disregarding that first half since there was no person in question to begin with, there is no worth in someone being "better than me". People can be "better" and still lose. So what if I'm not God Tier at throwing high damage numbers and proc sets at things. There is one thing to always remember though. It's not what you are, it's how you are. I know there are many people who use their leaderboard positions as a means of expressing superiority over others. Modesty and Grace goes a longer way than proof of ability.

Enslaved

Fishoscandi wrote: »

Hello! I've been playing this game for a while now and always wondered why every high or low level player seems to be so serious about the game. Everyone is just focused on getting the best gear, being no.1 on the leaderboards, having the best builds etc. So I conducted a little social experiment. I asked my fellow guild members what are some of the busiest places in all of Tamriel? I picked 4. The Undaunted hub in Mournhold, Riften's forge, Wayrest wayshrine and Rawl'kha. And who better to do it than my main friendly chubby orc stamblade How could I make players relax a little bit? Dancing. So I danced at those 4 places for 5 minutes each and waited to see if someone will join me. Also typing in chat: Anybody up for a dance at (place where I was) didn't help.


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This is me dancing at Mournhold's Undaunted hub. 5 minutes later nobody joined me so I left onwards! There was a naked vampire nord that I thought would join me but he didn't


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This is at Riften's Forge. Again I was dancing solo.


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Rawl'kha. Many people joined me on the rock, but none at dancing...


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And this is at Wayrest wayshrine. Same results.


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Oh, almost forgot. This was on PC EU. I know everybody wants to be no.1. But please, even the no.1 warriors need to live a little!

when I dance with my sDK nord with owl head and towel, I always get someone to dance with. So L2D pleb

hmsdragonfly

I usually "/yell FOR THE QUEEN!!" when we are charging through the gate of a keep in Cyrodiil (since I mostly do PvP for AD).

When I fight world boss or dungeon boss with my Orc DK tank I usually "/yell FOR MALACATH" then I run in and freaking Pierce Armour the boss.

After I kill someone I use /bless (have a hotkey for that emote). I always /salute or /greet people when I meet them.

In guild chat sometimes I say "Stendarr be praised" instead of OMG.

I call people "Sera" when I play with my Dunmer MagDK.

Jemcrystal

This game is not as bad as some of the mmo's I have played. People will /dance or /laugh when waiting for a boss to spawn (public dungeon/delve). At dolmens we use the /hammer or /pray on the stairs to "encourage" Molag Bal's slow azz participation in a world domination I'm not all that offended by. Telling people they are offensively intense will not cheer them. They've got ADHD, youth jitters, and caffeinated drinks. Plus, I would have run past your dancing without joining, OP. I would have approved but (1) I have a limited time online before work and want to goalz, (2) orcs just aren't sexy enough to stop me in my tracts.

BRogueNZ

Browiseth wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I don't give a single Skeever's rump about Leaderboards, cause what, you get your name and a number on a list and that's it? Woopdeedoo.

Is that skill shaming I see? It's still an insult even if the person in question is better at the game than you. No need for that at all.

whose he shaming? he's entitled to his opinion. and as above, it has very little to do with skill.

Metafae

If you start an emote in a location and keep it going for a while, you'll find that people who didn't have you loaded in when you started the emote will see you standing still.

Basically, if you wanted to do this, it's a good idea to refresh the emote every 30 seconds or so, that way people passing buy see the emote too.

Osteos

I throw mudballs at everyone. Every so often someone will throw one back and then its on!

Sausage

This is themepark progresson game, not RP game. I think if you go to Shroud of the Avatar it does the trick for you. Hell, even Conan Exiles is more immersive than ESO, and you might find people there too to dance with you.

hmsdragonfly

Sausage wrote: »

This is themepark progresson game, not RP game. I think if you go to Shroud of the Avatar it does the trick for you. Hell, even Conan Exiles is more immersive than ESO, and you might find people there too to dance with you.

It is a MMORPG, which stands for Massively multiplayer online role-playing game.

So, many people roleplay a role-playing game, you know, role-playing, it's in the title, Massively multiplayer online role-playing game.

Whenever I sell stuffs in zonechat (mats, motifs etc), i am often bored so I play lute near the bank (mainly because I love the music in this game). Many people come, /applaud, I have even sold some motifs to my "audience". It's fun playing that way.

SantieClaws

Khajiit does not understand this roll playing? Pretending to be a small loaf of bread or a cake is a most serious business best conducted after a few drinks yes.

If this one she had seen you dance she would have raised a glass and offered you a cheer.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

MelodiousAccord

*cough* mudball fight *cough*

i love the mudball memento; most of the time people notice they've been hit and it always amuses me when someone else joins in. In trade areas, not much happens but if you're sitting around waiting for a boss/dolmen/etc to spawn, it can make the downtime a lot less boring for a lot more people.

Zbigb4life

I would have danced with you if I was there. People need to relax and not take this game so seriously

BlueViolet

Browiseth wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Because they're super 1337 hardcore uber skillz bro. "Git gud & stop pugging scrub."

Since when did pouring hundreds of thousands of hours into an MMORPG become a bragging point? People take this game far too seriously. Especially when it doesn't require any skill, just time invested to reach level cap and max skill points, google search the best builds and gear and spend a year gaming all day and wahla, you "got gud." Lol, sad really.

Wowser, someone enjoys the game differently to me. Because of some contrived reason (I.E It's just a game bro) it's okay for me to shame them!

Also, since when did being casual and bad at an MMORPG become a bragging point? See, it works both ways.

Funny, I see multiple threads on here from elitists shaming people for queuing in dungeons because "they're just not good"and all should be kicked from the group because said elitists don't like their CP level, or class, or any other stupid, nonsensical reasons you see them giving this week.


I haven't really run into all that many fun people either, apart from folks in my EU guild.
Might as well forget it on NA, you need a hazmat suit with all the toxicity on there

AetherSatori

I would have danced with you, no one ever joins me either, also PC EU... must mean something. I'm too old to be serious about this stuff, my years of seriousness in MMO's have been and gone, that was my 11 years in WoW... even then not the whole 11 years.

Browiseth

BlueViolet wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Because they're super 1337 hardcore uber skillz bro. "Git gud & stop pugging scrub."

Since when did pouring hundreds of thousands of hours into an MMORPG become a bragging point? People take this game far too seriously. Especially when it doesn't require any skill, just time invested to reach level cap and max skill points, google search the best builds and gear and spend a year gaming all day and wahla, you "got gud." Lol, sad really.

Wowser, someone enjoys the game differently to me. Because of some contrived reason (I.E It's just a game bro) it's okay for me to shame them!

Also, since when did being casual and bad at an MMORPG become a bragging point? See, it works both ways.

Funny, I see multiple threads on here from elitists shaming people for queuing in dungeons because "they're just not good"and all should be kicked from the group because said elitists don't like their CP level, or class, or any other stupid, nonsensical reasons you see them giving this week.


I haven't really run into all that many fun people either, apart from folks in my EU guild.
Might as well forget it on NA, you need a hazmat suit with all the toxicity on there

@BlueViolet
Let's be fair; it's insulting how horribly unprepared many of these new players can be. Literally insulting.

DPShiro

Apparently what seems fun to you, don't to others.

Who would have thought people have different preferences?!

BlueViolet

Browiseth wrote: »

BlueViolet wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Because they're super 1337 hardcore uber skillz bro. "Git gud & stop pugging scrub."

Since when did pouring hundreds of thousands of hours into an MMORPG become a bragging point? People take this game far too seriously. Especially when it doesn't require any skill, just time invested to reach level cap and max skill points, google search the best builds and gear and spend a year gaming all day and wahla, you "got gud." Lol, sad really.

Wowser, someone enjoys the game differently to me. Because of some contrived reason (I.E It's just a game bro) it's okay for me to shame them!

Also, since when did being casual and bad at an MMORPG become a bragging point? See, it works both ways.

Funny, I see multiple threads on here from elitists shaming people for queuing in dungeons because "they're just not good"and all should be kicked from the group because said elitists don't like their CP level, or class, or any other stupid, nonsensical reasons you see them giving this week.


I haven't really run into all that many fun people either, apart from folks in my EU guild.
Might as well forget it on NA, you need a hazmat suit with all the toxicity on there

@BlueViolet
Let's be fair; it's insulting how horribly unprepared many of these new players can be. Literally insulting.

By your own logic, that still doesn't give those people the right to come here and make threads trashing and shaming these people whether they're unprepared or not.
Who the hell are they insulting? They just want to have a go like everyone else.

There shouldn't be "one set of rules" for self titled elite players, and one set for the poor folks who just want to play and have some fun.
Half of those "I'm so elite" are so far up their own proverbial that they're almost inside out. A little bit of tips 'n' tricks and a friendly word might help these people more than being shamed on the forum.

But I expect that is far too much to ask when you're blinded by your own colon greatness.

Browiseth

BlueViolet wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

BlueViolet wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Because they're super 1337 hardcore uber skillz bro. "Git gud & stop pugging scrub."

Since when did pouring hundreds of thousands of hours into an MMORPG become a bragging point? People take this game far too seriously. Especially when it doesn't require any skill, just time invested to reach level cap and max skill points, google search the best builds and gear and spend a year gaming all day and wahla, you "got gud." Lol, sad really.

Wowser, someone enjoys the game differently to me. Because of some contrived reason (I.E It's just a game bro) it's okay for me to shame them!

Also, since when did being casual and bad at an MMORPG become a bragging point? See, it works both ways.

Funny, I see multiple threads on here from elitists shaming people for queuing in dungeons because "they're just not good"and all should be kicked from the group because said elitists don't like their CP level, or class, or any other stupid, nonsensical reasons you see them giving this week.


I haven't really run into all that many fun people either, apart from folks in my EU guild.
Might as well forget it on NA, you need a hazmat suit with all the toxicity on there

@BlueViolet
Let's be fair; it's insulting how horribly unprepared many of these new players can be. Literally insulting.

By your own logic, that still doesn't give those people the right to come here and make threads trashing and shaming these people whether they're unprepared or not.
Who the hell are they insulting? They just want to have a go like everyone else.

There shouldn't be "one set of rules" for self titled elite players, and one set for the poor folks who just want to play and have some fun.
Half of those "I'm so elite" are so far up their own proverbial that they're almost inside out. A little bit of tips 'n' tricks and a friendly word might help these people more than being shamed on the forum.

But I expect that is far too much to ask when you're blinded by your own colon greatness.

The jokey tone of my post was not picked up on then, I guess. Oh well.

You know, in my experience it's actually newbie players that seem to think they know more than they do. Can't count the number of times a below CP160 has tried to teach me how to play the game...When I'm literally outdoing them in every way imaginable. Carrying them through a dungeon, but not pulling off the rez every time they die. Not explaining mechanics, when they don't even ask, etc.

There's bad eggs on both sides. I just don't want this discussion to be one sided and focused on the skilled players, who always seem to be an easy target for these "it's just a game bro" type people.

BlueViolet

No, it wasn't picked up on, sorry if it was intended to be funny.

I get a bit prickly about that, as there are so many awful threads of that type by people with an over inflated sense of self importance who seem to think their way is the only way that everyone should be playing the game.

Having skill doesn't stop you from being a decent human being.
Or rather, it shouldn't.

Browiseth

BlueViolet wrote: »

No, it wasn't picked up on, sorry if it was intended to be funny.

I get a bit prickly about that, as there are so many awful threads of that type by people with an over inflated sense of self importance who seem to think their way is the only way that everyone should be playing the game.

Having skill doesn't stop you from being a decent human being.
Or rather, it shouldn't.

Most of them are just sick of being grouped up with incompetent, often equally self important players. Myself included.
You'd be surprised how much ego some of these people that don't know/don't care what they're doing have. I know I was.

Woeler

I throw mudballs at roleplayers, does that count?

Riejael

Browiseth wrote: »

Also, since when did being casual and bad at an MMORPG become a bragging point? See, it works both ways.

2003 when Planes of Power released. First time a MMORPG required decent gear that took effort to get for general leveling content (60-65) or the group gets rekt. People took offense to being removed and replaced in groups for lower gear and took on the 'casual' mantle to imply they have a social life unlike geared 'hardcores'.

Players are offended when measured against someone else. So they lash out with derogatory statements, labels, and personal attacks.