Welcome to ESO, where cp 160s must choose stats over style...

Banetek

As ugly as some of your shoulder helm sets are, I must admit the stats more than make up for it however it sucks that I can not enjoy motifs I purchase from the crown store or find when it comes to head and shoulders. Whoever designed your armor for the motifs sure did a dam good job, better than whoever decided every ones feet should look like a slightly better version of Fred Flintstone .. Anyways my point is this. How hard would it be to add a vanity option for shoulders and helm since you guys put so much work into designing great motif sets that we can purchase from the crown store..?

I am guessing not very hard considering you have polymorph and hide helm options already, surely it would not be hard to do this.. I know its more important filling up the crown store but why not give more reason to invest into the motifs aspect and reward the players who spend everything from our hard earned money to our monthly government crazy checks on them..

thank you in advance.

Twizelbang

Its a shame we can't use our motif style armour as a transmog for any armour types in the game. Kinda like a costume.

KochDerDamonen

They're testing our propensity to buy useless things

rxhymn

No diablo scrolls.

bg22

It's a shame that there aren't superior craftable sets that are equally as difficult to produce as they are now to gain from drops... you know, to make crafting worth it. You know... like they said it would be.

Whoopen

Well I wish they would just allow us some way to permanently morph the gear to the style we wish, assuming we have learned it. Like I can do with imperial. I purchased the imperial edition way back and so any gear I get I can right click it and select change to imperial. once this is done it done no going back. So why not allow us to do something similar with the other styles we know even if I have to buy or farm some sort of morph material. and it be a one way ticket once morphed its like that permanently.

DigitalShibby

Just like a dye station they need to add a style station where you can view equipped gear and individually set the style of each piece. Done and done. Worried it'll hurt crown store costume sales? Well release more cool motifs as crown store exclusives and people will buy them right up and head to the style station. It's crazy this isn't in game already.

rxhymn

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

Nyghthowler

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

You started your own thread about this and got out voted. If you want to look like an idiot, then please, by all means don't use it. Don't tell others they are wrong to ask for it.

KochDerDamonen

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

I don't know why you have an obsession with...
Well, for one, you equate being able to change the visuals of items to being "Diablo"
And for two, you seem to imply that sharing a feature with Diablo inherently bad

We just want to make use of all the pretty motifs that ZOS hangs over our heads without gimping our effectiveness.

rxhymn

Nyghthowler wrote: »

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

You started your own thread about this and got out voted. If you want to look like an idiot, then please, by all means don't use it. Don't tell others they are wrong to ask for it.

Because the majority of you easy scrollers want something doesn't mean I care or that I won't voice my opinion

rxhymn

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

I don't know why you have an obsession with...
Well, for one, you equate being able to change the visuals of items to being "Diablo"
And for two, you seem to imply that sharing a feature with Diablo inherently bad

We just want to make use of all the pretty motifs that ZOS hangs over our heads without gimping our effectiveness.

If you played diablo you would know introducing the transmog system made the game boring as hell and further reduced the incentive and reward

Introducing crafted gear that's more useful is a much better solution

LadyNalcarya

Twizelbang wrote: »

Its a shame we can't use our motif style armour as a transmog for any armour types in the game. Kinda like a costume.

Agreed!
I really hate how most of BiS sets look like.
And I'm really tired of seeing Xivkyn robes... But Im currently playing a healer and there's no alternative to spc.
Daedric robe (bsw set) isnt that fancy either and has horrible textures that cant even be dyed properly.

Banetek

here is an idea!! Motiffs that allow you to craft a gear piece instead of the gear piece.

I like that idea that was posted.

KochDerDamonen

rxhymn wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

I don't know why you have an obsession with...
Well, for one, you equate being able to change the visuals of items to being "Diablo"
And for two, you seem to imply that sharing a feature with Diablo inherently bad

We just want to make use of all the pretty motifs that ZOS hangs over our heads without gimping our effectiveness.

If you played diablo you would know introducing the transmog system made the game boring as hell and further reduced the incentive and reward

Introducing crafted gear that's more useful is a much better solution

I would be happy with better crafted gear, but equipment here isn't much like that in a Diablo
The most "elite" gear in the game come in the form of motifs, barring the special particles on MoL/MA/Master weapons plus the appearance of the latter two.

zuto40

rxhymn wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

I don't know why you have an obsession with...
Well, for one, you equate being able to change the visuals of items to being "Diablo"
And for two, you seem to imply that sharing a feature with Diablo inherently bad

We just want to make use of all the pretty motifs that ZOS hangs over our heads without gimping our effectiveness.

If you played diablo you would know introducing the transmog system made the game boring as hell and further reduced the incentive and reward

Introducing crafted gear that's more useful is a much better solution

there is currently 0 incentive and reward to do anything, make this drop in rewards of the worthy and vet trials so people start doing *** again

olsborg

This is a recurring topic. Motifs are pointless imo, since all the sets I use are dropped sets and they come in a predefined motif that usually looks like crap.

Iluvrien

People wanted the best gear to come from endgame (grind) content to give them a reason to do it and keep redoing it. ZOS gave them what they wanted. Crafting got screwed. Thus we arrive at the current position.

yodased

It's always been my opinion that motifs should be craftable as costumes

WaTeR-aBuSeR

We've been in this current position since the game launched. Monster sets just made it more apparent. Combination of crafted and dropped has always been bis for my class. Only I could hide it mostly by legs and shoes until monster sets. Sorry but this is the next thing the game needs after housing. They keep copying swtor so why not their cosmetic system? Tired of end game raiders looking like scrubs with ugly ass helms and shoulders or having to wear costumes. So either come out with a cosmetic system or give us all costumes of the motifs we have to wear.

TheShadowScout

Style transmogrification would be a GOOD thing.

It would allow dropped sets the same visual flexibility as crafted sets... nothing more. People would still have to get their desired sets just like they need to now, they just had one more choice between "looking meh with mixed styles" and "wear a off the rack costume" - and more choices is never a bad thing.

And if done right, say, as unlockable perk for master crafters, with a transmogrification pip at each crafting station, where you need to spend resources (possibly including a rare resource, aka nirnroot rarity...) to reforge/resew/recarve your gear, with a destruction chance like temper improvements, that can be migrated by using more resources... it would also be neat to use, and create some draw on crafting materials and demand for motivs as people would want their crafter characters prepared to provide visual goodieness for all their others...

And of course that could finally replace the annoying "transform to imperial style" function which is pretty useless beyond the first couple levels as people start getting sets...

OutLaw_Nynx

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

I don't know why you have an obsession with...
Well, for one, you equate being able to change the visuals of items to being "Diablo"
And for two, you seem to imply that sharing a feature with Diablo inherently bad

We just want to make use of all the pretty motifs that ZOS hangs over our heads without gimping our effectiveness.

@rxhymn
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/Up1IL

Hagrett

It could be so simple. Make a system usable at the craft station where you would select two items, one for the stats, the second for the looks. Give it a cost, something like the style material for the second item and a few of the base material from the first. This way people with the fancy motifs will have requests to actually craft them, and style materials would still be needed, it would also take materials out of the economy.

Whipped up a crappy pic in ms paint to show my line of thought:

Calandrae

My main character is a healer who feels doomed to wear Xivkyn-style robes (SPC) that don't even dye that well. I have given up getting motifs because they have no use as it is.

Really wish they would add a way to change the style of dropped gear. More cosmetic options is always good in an ES title.

Hagrett

I used to think that it was maybe because the crown store was going to be selling a bunch of re-coloured armour sets as costumes, but now they have seemed to mainly have settled on selling things with their own unique models (and re-colours of them afterwards) I don't think this would hamper sales any.

I don't want to wear mismatched sets and the face of a monster I killed.
I'd put a costume on, but I don't want to be off fighting giant scorpions in a ball gown.
I want to choose a set of armour I like the look of.

While we're at it - weapon dyeing!
I'm tired of bright red swords.

Please Zos!

Banetek

Hagrett wrote: »

It could be so simple. Make a system usable at the craft station where you would select two items, one for the stats, the second for the looks. Give it a cost, something like the style material for the second item and a few of the base material from the first. This way people with the fancy motifs will have requests to actually craft them, and style materials would still be needed, it would also take materials out of the economy.

Whipped up a crappy pic in ms paint to show my line of thought:

I love that idea a lot. I also like the idea of bosses dropping unique motifs for unique styles..

EvilCroc

Twice Born Star in any motif you like on boots, legs, chest, gloves and belt/shoulders.
Set items on jewerly, helmet (hide it!) and weapons. For 5+5.
TBS on boots, legs, chest, gloves and belt.
Monster set for shoulders and head.
Willpower/Agility/Endurance jewerly for 5+2+3
or set jewerly and 2 weapons (or weapon and shield) for 5+5+2

This is sick, I think.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

I will never choose stats over appearance.

My main in LOTRO is a Loremaster, he got sent to a convalescence home for 5 months once because I couldn't keep up with stat progression and get a look I was happy with. Spent a lot of time expanding my Wardrobe, and farming drops with specific looks on other toons, and only when I could make my LM look how I wanted him to look did I let him back out in the world.

I like how my Nord looks, and that is that.

I am sure that will mean some other players will say I am rubbish and they will refuse to group with me... ...so what. I'll lose no sleep over that.

All The Best

pattyLtd

I agree.
If anything please let us at least hide the shoulders already!

Nyx2

rxhymn wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

rxhymn wrote: »

No diablo scrolls shibby!! Bad shibby! No!

I don't know why you have an obsession with...
Well, for one, you equate being able to change the visuals of items to being "Diablo"
And for two, you seem to imply that sharing a feature with Diablo inherently bad

We just want to make use of all the pretty motifs that ZOS hangs over our heads without gimping our effectiveness.

If you played diablo you would know introducing the transmog system made the game boring as hell and further reduced the incentive and reward

And if you knew how to argue properly you would elaborate on your claims. Changing visuals to your whim has nothing to do with "boring". They already gained all these motifs yet they can't use them in any helpful way. That is not boring, that's stupid.

Cloudless

The whole "no diablo scrolls" argument really is pointless.
On the other hand, the fact that by endgame every player has to sacrifice his own personal tastes on how his character should look like in order to wear some (horribly looking) monster set just to be efficient seems to me like a major issue, which has been here for quite some time and appears to be constantly overlooked by the devs.

And really, the fact that new motifs keep getting released (and sold in the crown store) just adds insult to injury: bought the new frostcaster motif and looking forward to use it on your magicka DD? No can do, sorry, you need Grothdarr and Burning Spellweave. Boy, your altmer healer would look definitely good in glass - oh, wait, Spell Power Cure, looks like it's Xivkyn for you from now on. Your Redguard stamblade sure will look nice in Abah's Watch armor, except... you need to go Spriggan+Kra'gh. You get the idea.
Of course, from a cynical and business-oriented point of view, that means that more and more players (the ones who care about how their characters look, at least) will be forced to buy costumes to cover up their horrible base appearance... is that really the direction ZOS wants to go, though?

@ZOS_GinaBruno, any chance this issue will ever be taken into consideration?