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Help with Magplar PvE DPS sets

thomas1970b16_ESO
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Hello,

I have a CP 600+ Magplar High Elf and am wondering about sets to use once next update hits.

I am not much for farming, so mainly BoE sets and crafted sets is what I want to use.

I have Grothdarr and Skoria 2-piece. I also have Kena shoulder.

What would be best for 4-man veteran hm content and soloing world bosses?
  • Mojmir
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    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
  • thomas1970b16_ESO
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
  • Destruent
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    You can use Julianos + Willpower and then either grothdar + random weapons (or torugs DW, but i guess lightning/healing-staff will be better for soloing) or you use 1x kena + 2x torugs/magnus/whatever. You can also use 4x necropotence/shadowdancer instead of willpower+ randomstaffs.
    TBS is worse than julianos and spinners is not really usefull for group- and open-world-content. 5x necropotence is just useless on magplars.
    Noobplar
  • EldritchPenguin
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    Burning Spellweave is best in slot on a Magplar in my experience, especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you probably should be, even after the patch). I personally run 5 Burning Spellweave, 5 Julianos, and 2 Grothdarr. I know you asked for mostly BoE and crafted sets, but farming 3 jewelry pieces and 2 body pieces in Burning Spellweave is pretty manageable.

    If you're not feeling up for that, and/or if you want to switch to Lightning staff next patch, then you could swap Burning Spellweave for Mother's Sorrow.
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  • Destruent
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    Forget mothers sorrow....it's bad for 4-man-content now and even worse in next patch.
    Noobplar
  • EldritchPenguin
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Forget grothdarr. 5 bsw + 5 Moondancer and 2x willpower swords.

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  • Mojmir
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.
  • Mojmir
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    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
  • EldritchPenguin
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
    It was an honest mistake. We're all only human here.
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
    I really don't want to sound like I'm going after you here, but BSW actually applies to all of your skills, since it just straight-up adds 600 Spell Damage. Silks of the Sun is the one that only boosts Fire. BSW can only proc off of Fire damage, but that's not hard at all to do with its awesome 20% proc chance. Especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you almost certainly should be).
    Edited by EldritchPenguin on January 15, 2017 7:22AM
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    I use Burning Spellweave, Julianos, and grothdarr on my deeps.
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  • Mojmir
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
    It was an honest mistake. We're all only human here.
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
    I really don't want to sound like I'm going after you here, but BSW actually applies to all of your skills, since it just straight-up adds 600 Spell Damage. Silks of the Sun is the one that only boosts Fire. BSW can only proc off of Fire damage, but that's not hard at all to do with its awesome 20% proc chance. Especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you almost certainly should be).

    I get that,but like I menttioned,sweeps is your main spammable and RO is also a channel so you have your execute buffed as well. Soulshine is a constant uptime,where as bsw still needs the proc. The bit of extra health is nice,and it's harder to get a BSW wep farming :wink:

    Either way,both are solid options.
    Edited by Mojmir on January 15, 2017 5:30PM
  • EldritchPenguin
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
    It was an honest mistake. We're all only human here.
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
    I really don't want to sound like I'm going after you here, but BSW actually applies to all of your skills, since it just straight-up adds 600 Spell Damage. Silks of the Sun is the one that only boosts Fire. BSW can only proc off of Fire damage, but that's not hard at all to do with its awesome 20% proc chance. Especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you almost certainly should be).

    I get that,but like I menttioned,sweeps is your main spammable and RO is also a channel so you have your execute buffed as well. Soulshine is a constant uptime,where as bsw still needs the proc. The bit of extra health is nice,and it's harder to get a BSW wep farming :wink:

    Either way,both are solid options.
    Oh, yeah. Screw BSW weapon farming. I just decided not to even bother with that, so I'm using Julianos on 3 body and 2 swords, and BSW on 2 body and 3 jewelry. Works pretty well, and it wasn't too hard to get.

    I might have to try Soulshine at some point, but isn't it a heavy set? That seems like a bit of a no-go for me.
    Edited by EldritchPenguin on January 15, 2017 6:14PM
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  • Mojmir
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
    It was an honest mistake. We're all only human here.
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
    I really don't want to sound like I'm going after you here, but BSW actually applies to all of your skills, since it just straight-up adds 600 Spell Damage. Silks of the Sun is the one that only boosts Fire. BSW can only proc off of Fire damage, but that's not hard at all to do with its awesome 20% proc chance. Especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you almost certainly should be).

    I get that,but like I menttioned,sweeps is your main spammable and RO is also a channel so you have your execute buffed as well. Soulshine is a constant uptime,where as bsw still needs the proc. The bit of extra health is nice,and it's harder to get a BSW wep farming :wink:

    Either way,both are solid options.
    Oh, yeah. Screw BSW weapon farming. I just decided not to even bother with that, so I'm using Julianos on 3 body and 2 swords, and BSW on 2 body and 3 jewelry. Works pretty well, and it wasn't too hard to get.

    I might have to try Soulshine at some point, but isn't it a heavy set? That seems like a bit of a no-go for me.

    I run jewels/weps since sweeps and RO are on dual wield bar I only need the channel buff on that bar. I wondering about actually switching things around and replacing TBS with BSW.
  • Destruent
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
    It was an honest mistake. We're all only human here.
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
    I really don't want to sound like I'm going after you here, but BSW actually applies to all of your skills, since it just straight-up adds 600 Spell Damage. Silks of the Sun is the one that only boosts Fire. BSW can only proc off of Fire damage, but that's not hard at all to do with its awesome 20% proc chance. Especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you almost certainly should be).

    I get that,but like I menttioned,sweeps is your main spammable and RO is also a channel so you have your execute buffed as well. Soulshine is a constant uptime,where as bsw still needs the proc. The bit of extra health is nice,and it's harder to get a BSW wep farming :wink:

    Either way,both are solid options.
    Oh, yeah. Screw BSW weapon farming. I just decided not to even bother with that, so I'm using Julianos on 3 body and 2 swords, and BSW on 2 body and 3 jewelry. Works pretty well, and it wasn't too hard to get.

    I might have to try Soulshine at some point, but isn't it a heavy set? That seems like a bit of a no-go for me.

    I run jewels/weps since sweeps and RO are on dual wield bar I only need the channel buff on that bar. I wondering about actually switching things around and replacing TBS with BSW.

    soulshine is bad for pve, bc you loose 3k+ magicka and another small setbonus (HP) bc of bad jewelry-traits and this HP-setbonus. i'd replace it with something else like bsw, aether, moondancer, mothers sorrow etc
    Noobplar
  • Mojmir
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    Destruent wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
    It was an honest mistake. We're all only human here.
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
    I really don't want to sound like I'm going after you here, but BSW actually applies to all of your skills, since it just straight-up adds 600 Spell Damage. Silks of the Sun is the one that only boosts Fire. BSW can only proc off of Fire damage, but that's not hard at all to do with its awesome 20% proc chance. Especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you almost certainly should be).

    I get that,but like I menttioned,sweeps is your main spammable and RO is also a channel so you have your execute buffed as well. Soulshine is a constant uptime,where as bsw still needs the proc. The bit of extra health is nice,and it's harder to get a BSW wep farming :wink:

    Either way,both are solid options.
    Oh, yeah. Screw BSW weapon farming. I just decided not to even bother with that, so I'm using Julianos on 3 body and 2 swords, and BSW on 2 body and 3 jewelry. Works pretty well, and it wasn't too hard to get.

    I might have to try Soulshine at some point, but isn't it a heavy set? That seems like a bit of a no-go for me.

    I run jewels/weps since sweeps and RO are on dual wield bar I only need the channel buff on that bar. I wondering about actually switching things around and replacing TBS with BSW.

    soulshine is bad for pve, bc you loose 3k+ magicka and another small setbonus (HP) bc of bad jewelry-traits and this HP-setbonus. i'd replace it with something else like bsw, aether, moondancer, mothers sorrow etc

    The OP stated they are not much for farming,soulshine is way more easily attainable then anything mentioned,aside from mother's sorrow. The other sets you mentioned are exclusive to instanced dungeons/trials and can't even be vendored.most likely without farming,the best option would be just crafted gear.
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades

    Why Necropotence? Am I missing something?
    Mojmir was referring to Magicka Nightblades, not Magicka Templars:
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Twice born star,necropotence,spinners are what I'm using on magblades
    If we're talking about Magblades here, then yes, Necropotence is a strong set. But it's useless for Magplars.

    Sorry,it was late when I posted that. I use soulshine/tbs on one templar,julianos/spinners on the other.
    It was an honest mistake. We're all only human here.
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Well 5 TBS/ Julianos, 5 Burning Spellweave (easily farmed in CoA1), + favorite monster head & shoulder. You can't really get around having to combine your sets with looted ones if you intend to live up to DD role for this patch.

    Problem with BSW is it only affects 2 skills for templar,sure it buffs inferno WOE but you'd be better buffing sweeps with soulshine.
    I really don't want to sound like I'm going after you here, but BSW actually applies to all of your skills, since it just straight-up adds 600 Spell Damage. Silks of the Sun is the one that only boosts Fire. BSW can only proc off of Fire damage, but that's not hard at all to do with its awesome 20% proc chance. Especially if you're running Grothdarr (which you almost certainly should be).

    I get that,but like I menttioned,sweeps is your main spammable and RO is also a channel so you have your execute buffed as well. Soulshine is a constant uptime,where as bsw still needs the proc. The bit of extra health is nice,and it's harder to get a BSW wep farming :wink:

    Either way,both are solid options.
    Oh, yeah. Screw BSW weapon farming. I just decided not to even bother with that, so I'm using Julianos on 3 body and 2 swords, and BSW on 2 body and 3 jewelry. Works pretty well, and it wasn't too hard to get.

    I might have to try Soulshine at some point, but isn't it a heavy set? That seems like a bit of a no-go for me.

    I run jewels/weps since sweeps and RO are on dual wield bar I only need the channel buff on that bar. I wondering about actually switching things around and replacing TBS with BSW.

    soulshine is bad for pve, bc you loose 3k+ magicka and another small setbonus (HP) bc of bad jewelry-traits and this HP-setbonus. i'd replace it with something else like bsw, aether, moondancer, mothers sorrow etc

    The OP stated they are not much for farming,soulshine is way more easily attainable then anything mentioned,aside from mother's sorrow. The other sets you mentioned are exclusive to instanced dungeons/trials and can't even be vendored.most likely without farming,the best option would be just crafted gear.

    Even then...3x Willpower/arcane + 2x torugs is on par if not even stronger than soulshine for pve...
    Noobplar
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    Soulshine is bad for pve and here is why: the jewelry is Healthy trait, the armor type is heavy armor.

    It could be possible to do with 3 jewelry, 1 weapon and 1 armor piece, to avoid loosing the Undaunted mettle, but it's still a resource loss regarding the jewelry pieces. The build is also inferior compared to that of Burning Spell Weave.
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    Julianos on a magplar is worth 376 minimum spell damage, self buffed on a magplar. Plus you have 6% more crit and 4k spell pen going light and extra magika and all abilities are buffed. Soulshine isn't worth it at all, just like sun set on a DK. Both trash.
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