Buff Mag NB

VoRaVeLi

Merciless resolve should be able to be proc'd more than once.

It's the perfect buff imo.

MythicEmperor

We seriously need a buff.

Seraphayel

I'd prefer seeing damage buffs and some tweaks. I don't know why we have so many useless skills:

- Agony: increase the damage by at least 100% on the Prolonged Suffering morph and get rid of the CC; keep the CC on the other morph

- Cripple: increase the duration of Crippling Grasp to 10 or 12 seconds and increase the initial damage

- Teleport Strike: give us a "second use" after we used Lotus Strike to teleport back to the initial position (maybe increase Magicka cost by 50% for that use)

- Summon Shade: increase damage by 50-100% and make one of the morphs a DPS only morph

- Death Stroke / Consuming Darkness: turn one of the morphs into a ranged ultimate for Magicka users

- Grim Focus: give one of the morphs an additional effect - when the target suffers from Cripple / Agony damage over time effects consume them and deal additional damage

altemriel

and is the cloak already fixed on pts? anyone tested it out? no more getting out of steal by various enemy abilities (not intended by ZOS)

FloppyTouch

I play a mdk and think mnb needs a buff these guys are too easy to kill

elantaura

Every time someone writes a buff NB thread they add a 1% percent to the nerf we receive.

Marabornwingrion

Yes, mNB is one of the weakest class right now... I completely don't understand increasing cost of Strife, nobody was complaining about it. I was expecting some little buffs, not nerfs to our main spammable skill...

My main character is mNB, I play her nearly a year. And with every big update I feel weaker and weaker...

Qbiken

The fact that singel target skills were buffed (due to change in destruction staff passive) compensates for that.

Chilla_Deluxe

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 Infernal Guardian. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

NoFlash

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

How do I kill a magblade running that setup?

laksikus

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

Calling shield stacking skill...

Kadoozy

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

Why would you use ilambris in pvp? Not the best choice

Brrrofski

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

So necropotence and spinners is strong is what you're saying?

And illambris? Be honest, you made everything in your post up didn't you?

A sorc running any set a NB runs will hit harder and have more survivability while using the same playstyle.

Brrrofski

EvoAZN wrote: »

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

How do I kill a magblade running that setup?

EvoAZN wrote: »

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

How do I kill a magblade running that setup?

Just cc at the right time so they can't cast a shiled and they will die in about 2 seconds with 20k health and in light.

psychotic13

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Just wanted to thank everyone for all the feedback and discussions in this thread. We have a couple updates/changes coming for the next PTS build that we’d like to share:

• Incapacitating Strike – Increased the cost of this ultimate to 70 from 50.
• Path of Darkness (and morphs) – Increased the base ability damage by 25%
• Twisting Path – Increased the damage of this morph by 7% over the base ability. (Total damage increase of 32% over live)

As a note, we definitely hear your feedback on Grim Focus and agree it requires more micromanagement than most other abilities. We are looking into solutions, but we do not expect to get changes in for Update 13.

Tommy_The_Gun

Arg NB is my first character. From the start it was a very good racial - class combo. (I played from the game start, back in the day where subscription was required to play). Although args were nerfed pretty hard (why ?! ?) It was still god for PvE and PvP healer.

But now ? I feel like every balancing patch NB are getting nerfed more and more...
And the reason for that is I think vast majority of people play NB.

zyk

I would be happy if cloak worked like it did from approximately 2.0 through 2.3, and the pending Strife nerf was reversed.

I think it would also be beneficial if the cloak lockout function of magelight was removed so that it only prevents stealth.

Seraphayel

Astrid_V wrote: »

Yes, mNB is one of the weakest class right now... I completely don't understand increasing cost of Strife, nobody was complaining about it. I was expecting some little buffs, not nerfs to our main spammable skill...

My main character is mNB, I play her nearly a year. And with every big update I feel weaker and weaker...

The "nerf" of Strife is not even a problem, it's still pretty good. Our weak class skills are a problem.

VoRaVeLi

Seraphayel wrote: »

I'd prefer seeing damage buffs and some tweaks. I don't know why we have so many useless skills:

- Agony: increase the damage by at least 100% on the Prolonged Suffering morph and get rid of the CC; keep the CC on the other morph

- Cripple: increase the duration of Crippling Grasp to 10 or 12 seconds and increase the initial damage

- Teleport Strike: give us a "second use" after we used Lotus Strike to teleport back to the initial position (maybe increase Magicka cost by 50% for that use)

- Summon Shade: increase damage by 50-100% and make one of the morphs a DPS only morph

- Death Stroke / Consuming Darkness: turn one of the morphs into a ranged ultimate for Magicka users

- Grim Focus: give one of the morphs an additional effect - when the target suffers from Cripple / Agony damage over time effects consume them and deal additional damage

I was just trying to give a suggestion that wouldn't hurt pvp and would give them a nice fair buff in pve.

Like mag sorc can proc frags over and over and over without casting a initial buff or anything but mag nb merci resolve proc is that much work for one proc???

The dps spikes you get as mag nb come from those merci proc's without them the dps just goes down.

Maybe they will see my suggestion and nerf merci instead. I should be careful lol.

VoRaVeLi

zyk wrote: »

I would be happy if cloak worked like it did from approximately 2.0 through 2.3, and the pending Strife nerf was reversed.

I think it would also be beneficial if the cloak lockout function of magelight was removed so that it only prevents stealth.

This wasn't meant to be a pvp thread. I should have specified that buffing merci resolve would be a pve buff and that's why it's perfect since everyone is so afraid of nb becoming to op in pvp... The reason mag nb is hurting right now in pve is directly related to pvp.

Personally I think mage light sucks for finding people cloaked and as any other class it's already hard enough to find people cloaked. I do agree that to much random stuff breaks cloak atm.

Chilla_Deluxe

Brrrofski wrote: »

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

So necropotence and spinners is strong is what you're saying?

And illambris? Be honest, you made everything in your post up didn't you?

A sorc running any set a NB runs will hit harder and have more survivability while using the same playstyle.

Lol I meant Infernal Guardian.
I didnt make it up, check blob eso penetrator mag nightblade build on youtube. Youll see what I meant by Mag Nbs OP potential.

Chilla_Deluxe

Kadoozy wrote: »

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

Why would you use ilambris in pvp? Not the best choice

I meant Infernal Guardian.

Chilla_Deluxe

laksikus wrote: »

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

Lol magblades are op with the right gear setups. Try 5 necropotence, 5 spinners, 2 illambris. Your at 53k max magicka with shades. Your shields are huge and hitting 3-4k swallow soul on heavy 20k resistances non crits. They dont need a buff at all. Everytime I see a magblade their hitting super hard but very few of them. Its just class that requires more skill to play.

Calling shield stacking skill...

No but with a max magicka pool of 53k , your harness is somewhere around the damage shield of a sorc, which shouldnt happen and the damage mag nbs can put with that is also high.

Nutshotz

There are better sets for magblades than necro/spinners/llambris.

Don't get me wrong having 52-58k max magicka is nice for shields but if our skills scaled off of Max magicka and spell dmg than yeah that wouldn't be a bad set.

The set I have has 42k max magicka, 2.7k spell dmg and 1.2 magicka regeneration. That's unbuffed. Fully buffed I'm over 4k SD.

Seraphayel

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

I didnt make it up, check blob eso penetrator mag nightblade build on youtube. Youll see what I meant by Mag Nbs OP potential.

I watched that video and it is full of theorycrafting but really nothing substantial in reality.

VoRaVeLi

With so many bad ideas circulating on the forums atm and pointless threads I thought I would bump this .....

Tryxus

VoRaVeLi wrote: »

With so many bad ideas circulating on the forums atm and pointless threads I thought I would bump this .....

We got a buff, and a very good one: Range increase on Impale -> 28m instead of 18l

VoRaVeLi

Tryxus wrote: »

VoRaVeLi wrote: »

With so many bad ideas circulating on the forums atm and pointless threads I thought I would bump this .....

We got a buff, and a very good one: Range increase on Impale -> 28m instead of 18l

Whats the point of that? I never find myself out of range when impaling....

Tryxus

VoRaVeLi wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

VoRaVeLi wrote: »

With so many bad ideas circulating on the forums atm and pointless threads I thought I would bump this .....

We got a buff, and a very good one: Range increase on Impale -> 28m instead of 18l

Whats the point of that? I never find myself out of range when impaling....

So that MagBlades can now execute from the same distance as Mag Sorcs and Temps, making us a little better as ranged casters

Rohamad_Ali

Yes ! Unlimited Magblade buffs !

SnubbS

Magblades are probably the worst class to play in open world. Try to imagine that you aren't a bomb build -- and then compare Magblade to every other class.