PTS peeps - Attunable station cost

skiptomyluau

How does one get it? I heard you have to be ridiculously high crafter

helediron

You buy it from master writ npc. They cost 250 vouchers. You need to do master writs and currently best voucher reward comes from making nirnhoned legendary gear. The writ may ask the gear from any set, any trait, any motif. So yes, you need to be very high level crafter with ample stock.

skiptomyluau

So to complete 1 writ you need like 16 gold tempers. And you have to do that 250 times?!?!?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

helediron wrote: »

You buy it from master writ npc. They cost 250 vouchers. You need to do master writs and currently best voucher reward comes from making nirnhoned legendary gear. The writ may ask the gear from any set, any trait, any motif. So yes, you need to be very high level crafter with ample stock.

Those new writs have too high of a cost for me. I'm certainly not going to waste my gold tempers and nirncrux on that system.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

The idea of these writs is to waste your gold tempers so everyone has to grind even more to make endgame gear. All of the furnishings directly or indirectly costing tempers will surge the prices up and make it miserable to craft and improve endgame gear.

skiptomyluau

Yea. I'm beginning to think about passing on a house the more I read how expensive crafting furniture is going to be. Don't like the idea of grinding for 200 corundrums to make a lamp.

geonsocal

skiptomyluau wrote: »

Yea. I'm beginning to think about passing on a house the more I read how expensive crafting furniture is going to be. Don't like the idea of grinding for 200 corundrums to make a lamp.

i have a feeling i'll be going for the spartan look within my home...


i don't know - i may have to skip on the chair too...

starkerealm

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

The idea of these writs is to waste your gold tempers so everyone has to grind even more to make endgame gear. All Almost none of the furnishings directly or indirectly costing tempers will surge the prices up and make it miserable to craft and improve endgame gear.

Fixed that for you. They cost upgrade mats, but the legendary mats are almost never called for, and the lower tier upgrade mats are usually called for in fairly small quantities. The thing that the furniture crafting does chew through with hilarious speed is the style stones. Ironically, you can't use mimic stones for that, which makes testing on PTS a little tricky.

LordGavus

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

helediron wrote: »

You buy it from master writ npc. They cost 250 vouchers. You need to do master writs and currently best voucher reward comes from making nirnhoned legendary gear. The writ may ask the gear from any set, any trait, any motif. So yes, you need to be very high level crafter with ample stock.

Those new writs have too high of a cost for me. I'm certainly not going to waste my gold tempers and nirncrux on that system.

Yeah agreed, I can't afford to burn gold tempers on writs.

Does anyone know how many of these vouchers you get for completing a master writ?

starkerealm

LordGavus wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

helediron wrote: »

You buy it from master writ npc. They cost 250 vouchers. You need to do master writs and currently best voucher reward comes from making nirnhoned legendary gear. The writ may ask the gear from any set, any trait, any motif. So yes, you need to be very high level crafter with ample stock.

Those new writs have too high of a cost for me. I'm certainly not going to waste my gold tempers and nirncrux on that system.

Yeah agreed, I can't afford to burn gold tempers on writs.

Does anyone know how many of these vouchers you get for completing a master writ?

Supposedly, if you've got a writ that calls for a gold nirn set weapon, you're looking at over 250 vouchers. So, that's a station by itself. Which if accurate, makes the whole thing a bit more tempting.

disintegr8

It is the material cost per voucher that will be the deciding factor for me. You would want a decent amount of vouchers, or other rewards, if the writ is going to use multiple gold improvement items (even purple for that matter).

The trait stones are easy to come by if you pick up and deconstruct everything.

starkerealm

Also, is it just me or are the master writs unbound? Meaning if you don't want the one you got, you could sell it to someone else?

LordGavus

starkerealm wrote: »

LordGavus wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

helediron wrote: »

You buy it from master writ npc. They cost 250 vouchers. You need to do master writs and currently best voucher reward comes from making nirnhoned legendary gear. The writ may ask the gear from any set, any trait, any motif. So yes, you need to be very high level crafter with ample stock.

Those new writs have too high of a cost for me. I'm certainly not going to waste my gold tempers and nirncrux on that system.

Yeah agreed, I can't afford to burn gold tempers on writs.

Does anyone know how many of these vouchers you get for completing a master writ?

Supposedly, if you've got a writ that calls for a gold nirn set weapon, you're looking at over 250 vouchers. So, that's a station by itself. Which if accurate, makes the whole thing a bit more tempting.

Ah, that's not so bad then. I'll have give it a good look when it goes live.

imnotanother

starkerealm wrote: »

Also, is it just me or are the master writs unbound? Meaning if you don't want the one you got, you could sell it to someone else?

Yes, That is my understanding, as well.

starkerealm

LordGavus wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

LordGavus wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

helediron wrote: »

You buy it from master writ npc. They cost 250 vouchers. You need to do master writs and currently best voucher reward comes from making nirnhoned legendary gear. The writ may ask the gear from any set, any trait, any motif. So yes, you need to be very high level crafter with ample stock.

Those new writs have too high of a cost for me. I'm certainly not going to waste my gold tempers and nirncrux on that system.

Yeah agreed, I can't afford to burn gold tempers on writs.

Does anyone know how many of these vouchers you get for completing a master writ?

Supposedly, if you've got a writ that calls for a gold nirn set weapon, you're looking at over 250 vouchers. So, that's a station by itself. Which if accurate, makes the whole thing a bit more tempting.

Ah, that's not so bad then. I'll have give it a good look when it goes live.

The hard part is, the writs I'm looking at are in German, which I can kinda read, but not well, so the technical terminology is leaving me a little uncertain. It appears to be a Legendary, Nirnhoned, Glass, Rubidite Greatsword, the set name doesn't have a proper noun, so I've no idea there, which is paying out with 257. I'm also seeing legendary gear paying out as little as 100. So it's likely we'll get some writs we decide aren't wroth doing.

CombatPrayer

Oh the thought of this makes me sad. I weep for people who wanted test dummies. I fear what they will cost.

The vouchers you get depend on many things. Epic stuff gives 2-5.

Provisioning, alchemy and enchanting are low like under 7. Legendary wood max I saw was 10. Legendary nirn is like a powerball jackpot 200-300. Legendary most heavy, light stuff 19-32 IIRC. Yokudan motifs look to be a favorite and at 50k each I feel a little sick about them. They need to boost that drop rate. If doing them several times a day for many days doesn't yield you one then that is just truly some awful RNG.

skiptomyluau

The video that woman posted shows the dummy. Gold tempers 200 nickels I think a few other things plus 4 diff crafting lines

starkerealm

autumnsongbird wrote: »

Oh the thought of this makes me sad. I weep for people who wanted test dummies. I fear what they will cost.

I'd have to double check, but the dummies are actually pretty cheap. I want to say they're 35 or 100. Something like that.

EDIT: Yeah, the material costs per dummy are kinda out of control. But you only need one per account.

starkerealm

That's probably something for people to remember. Your houses, and the decorations in them, are shared across your entire account. So one dummy will be available to every character on your account, plus whoever you invite into your home on a semi-permanent basis.

They're expensive to craft, but it's not like you're going to be churning out a bunch of these things.

skiptomyluau

If they don't give you dps data they are so pointless. I'm a console player FWIW

starkerealm

I think they do, but I'm honestly not certain. I looked up their construction costs and then lost interest. Sorry, Skip.

skiptomyluau

It's cool . Think I'll save my gold

Oakmontowls_ESO

Well there goes my idea of having all of the set crafting stations in one house.

willlienellson

starkerealm wrote: »

Supposedly, if you've got a writ that calls for a gold nirn set weapon, you're looking at over 250 vouchers. So, that's a station by itself. Which if accurate, makes the whole thing a bit more tempting.

So, Nirn is worth about 11,500g
Tempering Alloy is 9k (times 8) = 72k
Grain Solvent is 590 (times 4) = 2,360g
Dwarven Oil is 98g (times 3) = 294g
The Rubedite is worth about 22g (times 110) = 21420g

Total cost 88,574 gold for one attuned table...if you got that exact master writ....on your very first try.

The total cost of a "set" of 3 attuned crafting tables (blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking) to make all necessary pieces comes to 266K crafting cost....AT BEST...assuming you got that exact master writ....3 times in a row.

I'm not even remotely tempted to spend 265k (at best) to keep from going to one random crafting station.

Honestly, the whole system is absurd imo. Who wants to clutter there estate with 15 duplicate crafting stations? And having just one or two is basically pointless.

IMO, they should go ahead and make an individual table cost 100k, 200k, or even more, but make it represent ALL sets. I'd rather each table cost 500k and actually be logically useful than these current tables that are both really expensive and also kind of pointless when you actually imagine yourself using them.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Why do people even waste their money on Master Writs? You don't get back what you spent.

leepalmer95

starkerealm wrote: »

LordGavus wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

LordGavus wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

helediron wrote: »

You buy it from master writ npc. They cost 250 vouchers. You need to do master writs and currently best voucher reward comes from making nirnhoned legendary gear. The writ may ask the gear from any set, any trait, any motif. So yes, you need to be very high level crafter with ample stock.

Those new writs have too high of a cost for me. I'm certainly not going to waste my gold tempers and nirncrux on that system.

Yeah agreed, I can't afford to burn gold tempers on writs.

Does anyone know how many of these vouchers you get for completing a master writ?

Supposedly, if you've got a writ that calls for a gold nirn set weapon, you're looking at over 250 vouchers. So, that's a station by itself. Which if accurate, makes the whole thing a bit more tempting.

Ah, that's not so bad then. I'll have give it a good look when it goes live.

The hard part is, the writs I'm looking at are in German, which I can kinda read, but not well, so the technical terminology is leaving me a little uncertain. It appears to be a Legendary, Nirnhoned, Glass, Rubidite Greatsword, the set name doesn't have a proper noun, so I've no idea there, which is paying out with 257. I'm also seeing legendary gear paying out as little as 100. So it's likely we'll get some writs we decide aren't wroth doing.

Those higher paying ones seem to be quite hard to do.

Nirn weps (isn't that hard)
Legendary (8x tempers) Quite expensive
Usually on a set thats at least 7-9 (con can tricky for some people)
The set is usually a DLC set
The style is usually a rare and annoying to get one like glass.

So there are very high rewarding writ's out there and if you can do them will instantly get you enough to buy something worthwhile but it seems to be very hard to get them.

On ps4 eu

Potent Nirn = 20k
Alloys is 20k per so 160k

Thats 180k for a writ already, not counting if you actually have the required motif, traits or dlc.

Robbmrp

From a cost perspective, I see no reason to ever own an attuned station. Yeah, you can go in your home to make it which saves you what, maybe 15 seconds of travel time to where it's actually located....even if were conservative here and say 1 minute total travel time to any station other than Armor master, when is saving 1 minute in the game worth the cost for one of these stations.

This Master Crafter will NEVER own one of these stations.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Robbmrp wrote: »

From a cost perspective, I see no reason to ever own an attuned station.

If you haven't bought the DLCs - sub for one month, attune to all the DLC-exclusive stations you want to use in the future, unsub. Or if you're setting up a house for guildies.

Oakmontowls_ESO

Well there goes my idea of having all of the set crafting stations in one house.

willlienellson wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Supposedly, if you've got a writ that calls for a gold nirn set weapon, you're looking at over 250 vouchers. So, that's a station by itself. Which if accurate, makes the whole thing a bit more tempting.

So, Nirn is worth about 11,500g
Tempering Alloy is 9k (times 8) = 72k
Grain Solvent is 590 (times 4) = 2,360g
Dwarven Oil is 98g (times 3) = 294g
The Rubedite is worth about 22g (times 110) = 21420g

Total cost 88,574 gold for one attuned table...if you got that exact master writ....on your very first try.

The total cost of a "set" of 3 attuned crafting tables (blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking) to make all necessary pieces comes to 266K crafting cost....AT BEST...assuming you got that exact master writ....3 times in a row.

I'm not even remotely tempted to spend 265k (at best) to keep from going to one random crafting station.

Honestly, the whole system is absurd imo. Who wants to clutter there estate with 15 duplicate crafting stations? And having just one or two is basically pointless.

IMO, they should go ahead and make an individual table cost 100k, 200k, or even more, but make it represent ALL sets. I'd rather each table cost 500k and actually be logically useful than these current tables that are both really expensive and also kind of pointless when you actually imagine yourself using them.

iirc you do not need to craft cp160 items for the writ so its a bit cheaper.

gothickaiserub17_ESO

skiptomyluau wrote: »

Yea. I'm beginning to think about passing on a house the more I read how expensive crafting furniture is going to be. Don't like the idea of grinding for 200 corundrums to make a lamp.

Grinding them sounds pretty silly when NPC vendors sell them for 15g each (also they are more in the 10-35 range)

skiptomyluau wrote: »

So to complete 1 writ you need like 16 gold tempers. And you have to do that 250 times?!?!?

Any sane person will max the "cost less passive" so its only 8 temperatures, and it gives way more then 1 voucher

starkerealm wrote: »

Also, is it just me or are the master writs unbound? Meaning if you don't want the one you got, you could sell it to someone else?

This was very clear and expressly noted as the intent in the patch notes, your supposed to buy and sell these things!

gothickaiserub17_ESO

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