U13 permablock trollplar build

Waffennacht

I like Wyrd Tree (counter to you! ) x5 backbar
a set like: Bloodthorn, Desert Rose, Black Rose or Guile

Then Troll King (though for offensive I'm thinking Tremorscale)

I'm prepping now, but usin a sorc

Frost Heavy Taunt +Tremorscale = burst but modtly 70% snare
Reach dmg + Roots
Encase

Ive found that you can permalock down people. It's pretty good against a lot of builds

Kutsuu

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I'm surprised no one has realized how stupid this could be for stamina builds lol if there was more theory crafters this would screw the game up even more

Stam already has cheesy permablock build options - have you not seen all the trolltank DK videos of late? My issue is that these people don't support their team very much unless enemies are dumb enough to attack them.

I wasn't talking troll set ups..

Ok so you're giving up your 2h or bow back bar in order to use a frost staff on a non trolltank stamina build. That's a significant tradeoff IMO. Especially the classic SnB+2h or DW+2h build that uses 2h bar for gap closing and executing, and the front bar for brawling/pressure. I don't see it as a worthwhile trade off.

Also considering if you're a DK you want to use that magicka for igneous for the stam sustain and major mending. Stamsorc is going to want it for dark deals and streaks... nightblade for the cloaks and fears. Stamplar, cleanse and focus. It seems like they already have powerful and necessary drains of their small magicka pools.

Go ahead and pitch your idea? I am not yet seeing the huge benefits. Maybe I'm missing something.

Already know 1vxing hybrid builds , you're definitely missing a lot. I'd never spread builds like that though, I'm just saying this could be way more broken on stamina builds in the right hands.

I'm familiar with the stam-heavy templar hybrids, and some niche hybrid sorc/DK builds. Pretty neat builds. I suppose you could run 2h+frost staff for it.

But what you seem to be referencing is that being able to block with magicka using a frost staff will be broken on pure stamina builds. I mentioned what you would be giving up by dropping one of two stamina bars for a frost staff. Why don't you post what you're theorycrafting? Otherwise you just come across as the usual "Oh there's a super broken build nobody knows about but I do because I'm a genius" troll post. Obviously I notice your username.

Or I don't believe in spreading cancer like everyone else and what you choose to perceive is on you. If you look at builds in typical/practical sense, you wouldn't see how broken this could be. Same arguments get brought up every time lol people didn't think destro would work on stam then next thing you know there's people showing them how wrong they are.

Not to mention I remember people saying the destro ult would still suck and told people once everyone catch on it's going to be ridiculous. I don't look forward to the frost staff meta but I'm sure someone will put a build out soon enough.

I'm sure if CPs worked differently this style of build would be more prevalent. It's probably very strong in Azura's. You are making tradeoffs to run that frost destro. I outlined some of those tradeoffs in my post. The ult is nice but certainly not crazy on a stamina build due to penetration and CP allocation. Unless you have some input other than "neener neener" I can't really figure out why you're wasting our time.

Kutsuu

Waffennacht wrote: »

I like Wyrd Tree (counter to you! ) x5 backbar
a set like: Bloodthorn, Desert Rose, Black Rose or Guile

Then Troll King (though for offensive I'm thinking Tremorscale)

I'm prepping now, but usin a sorc

Frost Heavy Taunt +Tremorscale = burst but modtly 70% snare
Reach dmg + Roots
Encase

Ive found that you can permalock down people. It's pretty good against a lot of builds

Yeah every build I've run that has heavy immobilize uptime is very strong in current meta where everyone runs almost no sustain - easy to drain stamina bars when they feel forced to spam dodge rolls and shuffle.

Sorc running double destro and twilight pet seems kinda interesting too (lightning + frost).

CatchMeTrolling

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Kutsuu wrote: »

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I'm surprised no one has realized how stupid this could be for stamina builds lol if there was more theory crafters this would screw the game up even more

Stam already has cheesy permablock build options - have you not seen all the trolltank DK videos of late? My issue is that these people don't support their team very much unless enemies are dumb enough to attack them.

I wasn't talking troll set ups..

Ok so you're giving up your 2h or bow back bar in order to use a frost staff on a non trolltank stamina build. That's a significant tradeoff IMO. Especially the classic SnB+2h or DW+2h build that uses 2h bar for gap closing and executing, and the front bar for brawling/pressure. I don't see it as a worthwhile trade off.

Also considering if you're a DK you want to use that magicka for igneous for the stam sustain and major mending. Stamsorc is going to want it for dark deals and streaks... nightblade for the cloaks and fears. Stamplar, cleanse and focus. It seems like they already have powerful and necessary drains of their small magicka pools.

Go ahead and pitch your idea? I am not yet seeing the huge benefits. Maybe I'm missing something.

Already know 1vxing hybrid builds , you're definitely missing a lot. I'd never spread builds like that though, I'm just saying this could be way more broken on stamina builds in the right hands.

I'm familiar with the stam-heavy templar hybrids, and some niche hybrid sorc/DK builds. Pretty neat builds. I suppose you could run 2h+frost staff for it.

But what you seem to be referencing is that being able to block with magicka using a frost staff will be broken on pure stamina builds. I mentioned what you would be giving up by dropping one of two stamina bars for a frost staff. Why don't you post what you're theorycrafting? Otherwise you just come across as the usual "Oh there's a super broken build nobody knows about but I do because I'm a genius" troll post. Obviously I notice your username.

Or I don't believe in spreading cancer like everyone else and what you choose to perceive is on you. If you look at builds in typical/practical sense, you wouldn't see how broken this could be. Same arguments get brought up every time lol people didn't think destro would work on stam then next thing you know there's people showing them how wrong they are.

Not to mention I remember people saying the destro ult would still suck and told people once everyone catch on it's going to be ridiculous. I don't look forward to the frost staff meta but I'm sure someone will put a build out soon enough.

I'm sure if CPs worked differently this style of build would be more prevalent. It's probably very strong in Azura's. You are making tradeoffs to run that frost destro. I outlined some of those tradeoffs in my post. The ult is nice but certainly not crazy on a stamina build due to penetration and CP allocation. Unless you have some input other than "neener neener" I can't really figure out why you're wasting our time.

The ult can be just as broken on a stam build lol what...I'll leave at that there's no point.