Would you like to have trainee set with other traits than training?

TreeHugger1

leepalmer95

NO

Its a very strong set it should have some limitations

Biro123

I would 'like' it - but I think its correct that it doesn't have it.

What I'd rather have is for it to not lose the 5th set bonus temporarily when you weapon-swap... leaving you a fair bit of health/mag and stam to recover...

Maikon

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

Biro123

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

You can - but mostly only jewellery and weapons (see above)

Maikon

Biro123 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

You can - but mostly only jewellery and weapons (see above)

Wrong, you can make a 5 pc armor set with 4 of the pieces something other then training.

Birdovic

YES

Maikon wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

You can - but mostly only jewellery and weapons (see above)

Wrong, you can get all armor pieces but 1 in something other then training.

Which include 1x intricate(light Robe) 1x well-fitted (Medium Torso), 1x reinforced (shield) and 1x sturdy (heavy torso) to name a few.
Besides that, nothing remotely useful, except jakarns sharpened 1h sword from a quest.


Impen, infused, divines Armor pieces? Nope.
Sharpened, defending, precise staves? Nope.

Not really satisfying ones to chose from.

leepalmer95

NO

Birdovic wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

You can - but mostly only jewellery and weapons (see above)

Wrong, you can get all armor pieces but 1 in something other then training.

Which include 1x intricate(light Robe) 1x well-fitted (Medium Torso), 1x reinforced (shield) and 1x sturdy (heavy torso) to name a few.
Besides that, nothing remotely useful, except jakarns sharpened 1h sword from a quest.


Impen, infused, divines Armor pieces? Nope.
Sharpened, defending, precise staves? Nope.

Not really satisfying ones to chose from.

But it's a very strong set so it shouldn't come in best traits for everything.

You can get impen/sturdy shield
Sharp 1h sword
Defending 2h
Jewelery
Reinforced heavy chest (which is not bad)
Powered resto etc..

Brrrofski

You don't even want weapons.

When you swap weapons you lose the bonuses, which have to regen. So say you had 4 body and 1 weapon, when you swap, 2.7k health, stam and magica gone which needs to regen.

Use jewellery, either sturdy heavy chest or well fitted medium chest and 1 training piece. It's honestly fine. You lose 1 good trait.

Birdovic

YES

Brrrofski wrote: »

You don't even want weapons.

When you swap weapons you lose the bonuses, which have to regen. So say you had 4 body and 1 weapon, when you swap, 2.7k health, stam and magica gone which needs to regen.

Use jewellery, either sturdy heavy chest or well fitted medium chest and 1 training piece. It's honestly fine. You lose 1 good trait.

For my Sorc I definetly don't want weapons, I got what I want in those slots, I just pointed it out for those that might be interested.
For jewelry, I also got some better options to chose from (which both sadly come in jewelry + weapons only aswell).

All I want is something remotely useful on my Armor pieces during combat. Something that helps me adjust my build a little more than "training" does.
Even everything in well-fitted or reinforced is better, just some more options.

Sandman929

YES

Yes, and I'd rather have more sets like it that boost stats, not proc their own damage for the player. High stats (and possible future sets that could buff stats for brief windows ) create a scenario that the user has to the take advantage of through the use of *GASP* skillful play.
So yes, I'd like Trainee and more sets like it that buff damage potential...with the condition that these no-brain death-by-armor sets would go away.

Biro123

Maikon wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

You can - but mostly only jewellery and weapons (see above)

Wrong, you can make a 5 pc armor set with 4 of the pieces something other then training.

Not wrong, I said mostly. Most of the non-trainee traits are in weapons/jewellery - Some come in armour. Please stop trying to belittle people.

miahus

i was told it was a mistake that trainee quest rewards come in other traits than training. so go ahead and pick up as many as you can in case they change it next update

TreeHugger1

YES

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Its a very strong set it should have some limitations

Indeed,this set is incredibly strong,combined with other sets you create an armor that deals 30 k burst every few seconds.
I admire your logic,by this approach sets such as viper, tremorscales,veli, selene should only come with training...well this nerf is more than what ZOS did...

TreeHugger1

YES

hmm?anyone?

The_Protagonist

YES

Its a set in a zone and deserves all the RNG traits that every other zone set comes in.

Slightly going off-topic here, but wanted to mention that sets like these can really help hybrid builds, we may yet find a use for Pelinel's Aptitude set.

bitels

NO

Set is OP and it should stay OP, couse it was created to help new players and low lvl char.
It would need be tone down if we could get it in divines/impe, and that would destroy it purpose.

TreeHugger1

YES

bitels wrote: »

Set is OP and it should stay OP, couse it was created to help new players and low lvl char.
It would need be tone down if we could get it in divines/impe, and that would destroy it purpose.

Can you tell me what makes you think it's OP?
It doesn't proc 10 k damage every 4 seconds,it doesn't give you huge amount of spell/wp damage or max stat.
It is indeed a strong set but there are many strong sets.
Anyway people still use 3 jewelry and lose maybe 1/2 good traits,If ZOS thought like you it's OP they could remove the jewelry.
What I suggest is not a buff but more diversity.
Please reconsider your claims.

bitels

NO

TreeHugger1 wrote: »

bitels wrote: »

Set is OP and it should stay OP, couse it was created to help new players and low lvl char.
It would need be tone down if we could get it in divines/impe, and that would destroy it purpose.

it doesn't give you huge amount of spell/wp damage or max stat.

+3548 HP
+3446 stamina and magica, which gives you about extra 330 spell and weapon dmg
And all of this only from one set.

The fact that ppl are still willing to use it, while loosing 2 traits show how good this set is. Right now it is fair trade, with best traits it would be OP as hell.

TreeHugger1

YES

bitels wrote: »

TreeHugger1 wrote: »

bitels wrote: »

Set is OP and it should stay OP, couse it was created to help new players and low lvl char.
It would need be tone down if we could get it in divines/impe, and that would destroy it purpose.

it doesn't give you huge amount of spell/wp damage or max stat.

+3548 HP
+3446 stamina and magica, which gives you about extra 330 spell and weapon dmg
And all of this only from obe set.

The fact that ppl are still willing to use it, while loosing 2 traits show how good this set is. Right now it is fair balance, with BIS traits it would be OP as hell.

Not really...In this meta you benefit most from stacking 1 kind of stat(unless you use 3 proc sets),more stamina and health are obviously very helpful but they aren't OP.
How exactly 2 more impen will make trainee "OP as hell" ?
This set isn't OP and if you really care about balance then you should demand ZOS to give us viper, tremorscale selene etc only with training trait(your logic...).

Stamden

YES

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Birdovic wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

You can - but mostly only jewellery and weapons (see above)

Wrong, you can get all armor pieces but 1 in something other then training.

Which include 1x intricate(light Robe) 1x well-fitted (Medium Torso), 1x reinforced (shield) and 1x sturdy (heavy torso) to name a few.
Besides that, nothing remotely useful, except jakarns sharpened 1h sword from a quest.


Impen, infused, divines Armor pieces? Nope.
Sharpened, defending, precise staves? Nope.

Not really satisfying ones to chose from.

But it's a very strong set so it shouldn't come in best traits for everything.

You can get impen/sturdy shield
Sharp 1h sword
Defending 2h
Jewelery
Reinforced heavy chest (which is not bad)
Powered resto etc..

The problem is, you can't use weapons because you lose all the stats on weapon swap.

Also, please stop saying that "this set is too strong" to have normal traits. It's stats, that's all it is. There are sets in the game that you could make an argument that they are "too strong" because they have an actual effect that is game-changing (ie: Black Rose), but Trainee is literally just stats- which is good, but will never be overpowered.

JinMori

YES

Op? i would say that this set is nothing special really, kinda bad actually. there are many sets better than this.

Sandman929

YES

Neighbor wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Birdovic wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

You can - but mostly only jewellery and weapons (see above)

Wrong, you can get all armor pieces but 1 in something other then training.

Which include 1x intricate(light Robe) 1x well-fitted (Medium Torso), 1x reinforced (shield) and 1x sturdy (heavy torso) to name a few.
Besides that, nothing remotely useful, except jakarns sharpened 1h sword from a quest.


Impen, infused, divines Armor pieces? Nope.
Sharpened, defending, precise staves? Nope.

Not really satisfying ones to chose from.

But it's a very strong set so it shouldn't come in best traits for everything.

You can get impen/sturdy shield
Sharp 1h sword
Defending 2h
Jewelery
Reinforced heavy chest (which is not bad)
Powered resto etc..

The problem is, you can't use weapons because you lose all the stats on weapon swap.

Also, please stop saying that "this set is too strong" to have normal traits. It's stats, that's all it is. There are sets in the game that you could make an argument that they are "too strong" because they have an actual effect that is game-changing (ie: Black Rose), but Trainee is literally just stats- which is good, but will never be overpowered.

Exactly. If you're wearing 5 Trainee then you're not wearing 5 of any other set that's proc'ing high burst damage for you (of course, you still might be for your other 5 piece if you're set up that way)
Sets that boost stats are good. Players have to take advantage of their stats to be effective. Sets that proc damage are bad. Death by Armor is OP, not Trainee in all the traits of ever other set.

NewBlacksmurf

Maikon wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this, but you can get it in something other then training.

Confirmed

Rilmarshim

Yes,I think prosperous would be a shiny addition.

It's like we don't have enough super-tanky high sustain builds who able to deal decent damage. Now let's give them heavy impen trainee, lol.

TreeHugger1

YES

Dr_Talos wrote: »

It's like we don't have enough super-tanky high sustain builds who able to deal decent damage. Now let's give them heavy impen trainee, lol.

So you voted yes,cool.

Rilmarshim

Yes,I think prosperous would be a shiny addition.

TreeHugger1 wrote: »

Dr_Talos wrote: »

It's like we don't have enough super-tanky high sustain builds who able to deal decent damage. Now let's give them heavy impen trainee, lol.

So you voted yes,cool.

Prosp OP on imperials.

Alcast

Yes,I think prosperous would be a shiny addition.

Can someone confirm that Trainee will only be available in traning next patch from quests?

Curragraigue

While it lasts

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