Official stance from ZOS on Lazy Writ Crafter

Sinthrax

Integral1900 wrote: »

I was going to use an add on called Lazy Writ Crafter to help streamline doing writs as my time slot for them is extremely limited but a friend suggested that it would be best to get an official word on wether this is against terms of service or not first.

Basically it automates Writ crafting using a number of pre set perameters, just find a crafting station and it does the rest.

Is there any official word on this regarding wether it's okay or regarded as botting? Eso very much feels like home in a way no other game ever has and I'd just like to be sure.

What they going to do ban you. They won't for such a small infraction. They need you more than you need them. Things on the crown store don't sale without people like you.

smacx250

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

that answer not counting

It's the only one they've given. Even though their answer has been directly referenced in numerous threads this year (ample opportunity to clarify it if it was not accurate), it still remains the only official word from ZOS on the issue that I'm aware of. To be clear - I'd be happy to see some other answer!

Elsonso

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

that answer not counting

Well, maybe you will get lucky and they will pop in here and craft a response just for you. If you are taking your opinion to heart and using the add-ons that are coming up in these discussions, you might get lucky when you get a little personal note from ZOS. Who knows. It all depends on what ZOS decides to enforce about the ToS.

SanTii.92

smacx250 wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Well thread's been up for a while now and ZOS hasn't popped in, so there's your answer.

The subject is too stupid for them to bother with.

ZOS already answered. Unless they have something else to say, why would they repeat themselves?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2089721/#Comment_2089721

Because they are not enforcing it, even when forumers and streamers are using them openly.

If Zos decides to actually do somthing about it they currently have only one way to do it, and that would be to reinterate their stance, before taking any actions, if they don't want a massive outcry from either a) pretty much everyone that found themself suddenly punished for using such addons or b) individuals picked to being punish and so they get called out for not being fair and impartial.

Ultimately, at this point, both @ZOS_MollyH statement and @lordrichter's argument are utterly pointless.

They haven't been yet clear just in case they want to do something eventually. But for that they will have to actually say it. So yes, i'm pretty certain no harm can be done by using these kind of addons.

EnviousStruggle

look at that thread
@ZOS_MollyH totally ignored important questions about why API allowing addons to do what they do

a) she doesnt know what we asked her, because she is not API dev neither have a clue about, thats why she ignored our questions
b) same, but about whole Zenimax

smacx250

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

look at that thread
@ZOS_MollyH totally ignored important questions about why API allowing addons to do what they do

a) she doesnt know what we asked her, because she is not API dev neither have a clue about, thats why she ignored our questions
b) same, but about whole Zenimax

Well, the API used by the addon isn't anything special - it just calls the same thing the default GUI does, but in a repeated manner. I suspect it may be a fairly significant and impactful GUI/API redesign if they wanted to protect it against addons from calling things to craft, submit guild store queries, etc (basically make it like the combat related activities - off limits in the API).

Frankly, while it may be a technical violation of the TOS, I doubt they currently care enough about this to bother with doing anything about it - certainly not doing a bunch of work to protect against it. I don't see any of these capabilities causing customer dissatisfaction (other than that the default GUI doesn't have it!), or causing them a loss of revenue. What would they gain by removing the capability or pursuing enforcement?

Tryxus

I've known ppl that got banned for using SWAPS back in the day...

Seems ZOS either changed their minds or swept it all under the rug and don't care anymore...