Monster Sets/Proc Sets - Do you rely on them?

Cryptical · January 2017

Yeah @mr_wazzabi , I made 2 replies. The first addressed that the op didn't know what they were talking about, the second was addressing that it is possible to know a rough dps on console just by sight, without any logs or such.

Massive_Stain · January 2017

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Please, I would like to understand why folks are using underwhelming sets like (these are only examples -- that I have tested in Vma) Ilambris, Grothdar etc, when they could just be nuking groups twice as fast while not using monster sets?

Got something other than a meme to say? I lose dps using anything but what I'm wearing. I get 13k critical damage ticks from my staff alone, not counting my two area of effect spells and the crushing shock weave in between.

If you dont find Grothdar or Ilambris to be a massive DPS increase, then you are doing it wrong... 8-11% of my damage on a 40-60k parse.

Beat me to it haha

It is quite underwhelming for my mag sorc. As I said, my dps suffered noticeably in Vma. And trust me, Im not "doing it wrong". Infallible mage adds way more on both the three piece, and five piece than Ilambris could dream of. Thats my opinion. I might as well point out that Im Console as well, so no fancy dps calculator addon.

My basic eyes on view is liquid lightning gives 6k per sec, wall of elements gives 5k, crushing shock gives 15 k every two sec, and staff gives 3x 13k ticks and a final 17k tick. I rotate every 4 sec velocious curse for 18k. And that's if I'm not running my overload.

I'm not doing it wrong.

How can you even say your dps goes down if you're on console and have no parse? You sure it's not bias?

Where's your data? If you have no numbers everything you say is based on opinion and not fact.

Well... It's sorta possible if you are paying attention to get a rough estimate. But not exact numbers unless you record and go through the vids by hand.

Running a Templar spamming jabs will teach the skill of getting a sense of the numbers as a whole, because they rush past like a firehose spray. Paying attention to a number of things, you have to dump the most irrelevant details.

If I'm used to seeing my clumps of white damage numbers with 38xx 38xx 39xx 37xx 40xx 37xx 38xx 40xx - which would be one round of sweeps on just 2 mobs - and I start seeing 34xx 34xx 35xx 33xx 36xx 33xx 34xx 36xx on the next round of sweeps, then I know something happened that dropped my damage by about 400 per stabbity. Did food go away? Did a debuff expire? Did a buff expire? Did a group member's debuff expire? Do I need a parse from some addon readout to do my thinking for me? Nope.

So, it is possible. Just not an exact science.

Says I know nothing, then says I know something? Wait - maybe I DO know what Im doing/talking about, after all. For me, my photographic memory, plus my natural affinity with numbers makes it a no brainer - For MY own, personal build.