Is the glory days of ESO gone?

craftycarper73

Although housing will be a great addition, for me personally, if there is no new area with a fairly sizable quest line, the game for me is pretty much over, i don't feel the need to do anymore at present and i am just doing some of the small achievements listed, but this gets very very boring after a while.

i have supported the game since day one(ps4) by subbing, but if the only thing were going to get is housing in the next update my sub will stop, housing isnt enough on its own to keep people happy for 3 months.

Anyway i hope you all have a great evening wherever you are and happy new year.

Paraflex

The next year will be critical for the game I'd think. They need to release trials or new endgame content for that player base. They need to release PvP content like battlegrounds and arena or some type of instance PvP. If they do a poor job or don't add enough content people will leave to play other games it's been a long wait on any new content.

SunfireKnight86

I feel like I'm the only one on these forums who's about to vibrate into another dimension with excitement at housing. Everyone is just chomping at the bit for a new landmass or a new dungeon so they do all the quests and get all the gear in two weeks, and I'm over here thinking about how much time I'm going to spend buying and decorating houses. Housing is months of content if you're into it at all. Literally months.

All they need now is a major update to clean up the questing, lore, and manage their in-game books a little better, and this game will be exactly where I always wanted it to be. After Vvardenfel? Pffft. Kill me and I'll die happy. (In game. Don't kill me in real life)

jedtb16_ESO

no...

they are yet to come...

Arthg

The original post sounds like the introduction of a powerpoint presentation to a meeting of shareholders and investors...

It seems to me, OP, that the "glory" of the game is what you make of it - why should you be worried about other people's views if you're enjoying your ESO gaming time? What else matters?

If you're enjoying the game, then the odds are that you're not alone, and that the game does have a future.
If you're not, then play something else - no need to worry about the future of a game you no longer like...

Riptide

SunfireKnight86 wrote: »

I feel like I'm the only one on these forums who's about to vibrate into another dimension with excitement at housing.

Hah, have an awesome for making me smile with the vibrate into another dimension with excitement line

Not quite that excited, but looking forward to it certainly. I'd be quite a bit happier if I thought you would be able to hang all your fish trophies, and that they all looked different. I figure instead of that they'll let you buy one for each region. One day.

But clearly my prioroties - a custom Hail Fishis museum, are not necessarily everyone's

Doctordarkspawn

To me, the golden age of this game ran from Orsinium to Dark Brotherhood. The balance was okay, things were reletively balanced from a PVE perspective, and ZOS knew what audience it wanted to target.

That's gone. I'm hoping that update 13 fixes alot of issues, but I doubt it. I simply do not have faith in the ZOS dev team that is obvious so disconnected from the playerbase it is attempting to serve, on an endgame level.

americansteel

this game was better before CP came out, now we have high damage stam builds, insane proc sets, awful dlc, overpriced content, server performance, load screens, 2 classes lacking mobility and have crap dps, udates which brings 2 or more bugs/issues, constant disconnects, awful lag, unbalanced game play between classes.

unfortunately nothing in ESO is fluid except the lag.

2014 seemed it was a better year for ESO.

Cinbri

americansteel wrote: »

this game was better before CP came out, now we have high damage stam builds, insane proc sets, awful dlc, overpriced content, server performance, load screens, 2 classes lacking mobility and have crap dps, udates which brings 2 or more bugs/issues, constant disconnects, awful lag, unbalanced game play between classes.

unfortunately nothing in ESO is fluid except the lag.

2014 seemed it was a better year for ESO.

It was good but it definetly wasn't much more greater.
Check any video from Quackecon 2014:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMzrkRluWbU&t

First thing you will see - most of battles are spam of heavy attacks, no wonder there was no lags there.

KochDerDamonen

pfffff

Yeah no, this game hasn't had glory days yet. We've been living a long term of "at least it's pretty good" times and "oh, well that's not very gamebreaking at least" times. The only way this game's glory days are in the past, are if you only play dragonknight ever and like steamrolling or the servers literally go off before it gets any better.

Sethriditus

I think this post sums it all up at the moment...

"The next year will be critical for the game I'd think. They need to release trials or new endgame content for that player base. They need to release PvP content like battlegrounds and arena or some type of instance PvP. If they do a poor job or don't add enough content people will leave to play other games it's been a long wait on any new content."

Elder Scrolls Online is at a tipping point and it's Zenimax's next decisions that will have a big impact on the future Elder Scrolls Online, The Zenimax name and any future online Elder Scrolls franchise.

RebornV3x

Yes I think ESO glory days are behind them 1 Tamriel was great but it just not enough this game has been getting worse every patch

kevlarto_ESO

The game is still young compared to most other big name mmo's but if zos does not get on the ball and put some effort into the game, and bring in some major content, QOL, things that are missing, get cheaters out of the game, I am afraid eso will just be on a slow spiral to the toilet and it's better days would be behind us, but there is still a glimmer of hope if zos wants to keep this game going and making money.

americansteel

Cinbri wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

this game was better before CP came out, now we have high damage stam builds, insane proc sets, awful dlc, overpriced content, server performance, load screens, 2 classes lacking mobility and have crap dps, udates which brings 2 or more bugs/issues, constant disconnects, awful lag, unbalanced game play between classes.

unfortunately nothing in ESO is fluid except the lag.

2014 seemed it was a better year for ESO.

It was good but it definetly wasn't much more greater.
Check any video from Quackecon 2014:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMzrkRluWbU&t

First thing you will see - most of battles are spam of heavy attacks, no wonder there was no lags there.

i remember early 2014. youre right, atleast then i never hit lag as bad as i did in 2016, thats why i stopped playing eso.

Vrienda

ESO has never been stronger. Stop panicking.

Prof_Bawbag

Has there really ever been a golden era during this game's life cycle? There's always been ups and downs. I remember waiting 10mins for loading screens after they screwed it up after an update, I also remember the game being atrocious when it first launched on consoles and so on.

For those with an axe to grind, it's the end of days and that's always been the case.

The current state of PvP is the only major, major ballache. *IF* they ever manage to fix it, it will be something else.

AzuraKin

Kendaric wrote: »

ESO's glory days came to an end the moment they announced and introduced the scam crates.

naw its glory days ended when they said champion points and crown store.

Pops_ND_Irish

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

No need to panick . No need to worry . Just play the game and relax .

Ditto

Fudly_budly

Celebrate my first anniversary of emerging from Coldharbour tomorrow (Jan 3). Got TU last Christmas... Bought eso+ for myself this Christmas. Logging into PTS for Homestead tomorrow, hopefully. Still so much to do. Love this game.

ESO is a community with all the societal groups represented from "Pie in the sky" to "Sky is falling." LOL. So enjoy the ride OP.

Balamoor

Yes OP all is lost

Doooooommmmmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huTKdSZMRPg

The game is dead you don't realize it but ZoS closed it down shortly after beta when the first idiots....errr I mean people pronounced it a fail.

PurifedBladez

PVP is terrible. Worst state it's ever been in.

TheBonesXXX

I think the game has been mishandled from the start, its the current MMO trend that seems to be the most profitable and marketable. Release with sub base, transition to free to play, eventually make it pay to win.

It has become acceptable from the gaming community that these trends continue. Truthfully, I do not like the way ESO was built despite trying to give it my best attitude, I think ESO should have been in the hands of people who actually care about the game and just do not seem to care about pleasing their overlords with revenue.

I question the amount of passion the developers have for the game and the gaming industry, not just in it because it is a big industry and it makes money that combines well with their talents.

There are things, still broken and not functioning with the game despite it going into its third year since launch. There are just fatale design flaws and Band-Aid fixes from the devs that just blatantly expose the fact that they bought use of another engine which they do not have any clue how to use instead of building their own engine.

The game sacrificed to much in terms of core mechanic and gameplay for aesthetics, I do not care about the latest market trends on how much x makes money; free to play sinks games as with the markets that follow them. Free to Play is a signal that a game was being developed by passionate people and then they got fired in order to turn it into a cash machine.

I feel that aesthetics and things like mounts, gear, costumes, all belong in the game. Nothing belongs in the cash shop, absolutely nothing.

I also feel like ESO escapes the meat and taters of the game, gearing should not be the end game, it should be swift to out fit their character to get into the fight.

There is no fight in ESO, just zergs and empty keep battles. Nothing epic because the castles and land cannot be maintained, they just constantly switch on a dime.. That is boring to me. There was no long term plan for ESO, its clear that they keep making *** up as they go to keep the hungry no lifers sustained.

Putting the best gear behind huge dungeons is the dumbest *** any MMO dev could ever do, because it trivializes the core game in favor of people who will stick around and get the best gear and roll with the latest *** ups (meta). Instead of players who want to build their character down to the last detail and be competitive.

Honestly, it doesn't matter how many dungeons they release, eventually it becomes a recycled idea. With that said, I do not have the patience to sit here and play grindville for 6 hours just to get a piece of gear that outclasses everything else. I do not have the patience to sit here and grind Champion Points and gold just to buy gear and pieces made required to succeed in PvP.

I want gear that lets me pick from a list of stats and attributes that I name, not anyone else, I do not need the devs to produce gear for me, I need the devs to produce a cool vanity system and an array of options, so I can combine them to have the toolkits which allows me to wreak havoc and kill other players.

-I love Elder Scrolls, but ESO the ES universe is not the same
-I hate preset gearsets, I would like to design my own.
-2 piece undaunted was the worst implementation ever, everything should be player controlled
-I hate smart missiles, smart heals, and any variance of tab target
-Game should have been seamless a true open world experience
-Faction based systems without a nuclear option suck

JD2013

SanTii.92

Kendaric wrote: »

ESO's glory days came to an end the moment they announced and introduced the scam crates.

No one can reasonable be so concerned and upset about crown crates without being some kind of neurotic and capricious collector. Seriously, think about it.

I as someone who has fun, you know actually playing the game and enjoying the playable content can't really care much about those completely optional, fully cosmetic or convenient crates.

Ishammael

AlwaysOnFire wrote: »

in my experience, most of the time the "glory days" of anything correlate more with "ambiguous nostalgia for when I was unaware my environment wasn't there to flatter me" than "an actual time when things were better for everyone."

this holds true for your grandpa's confusion about the 1960s as much as it does for dissatisfaction about the state of a MMORPG.

Don't agree with this.

"The old days" are measurably better in some aspects. Not all, to be sure, but some.

This holds true for both ESO and your 1960s snark.

For example, ESO population and performance in PvP was much stronger near launch. ESO "raiding" was more active upon initial release of the craglorn dungeons.

Sure, ESO has tons more content now. The point is to recognize those things which cause the nostalgia.

akl77

I'm sorry, but in my opinion, there never was a glory day for ESO.
It never went top of the gaming chart
Not a time the game is stable without frequent crashes and bugs.
It was ok to good, never glorious.

PhxOldGamer68

Seeing all the players doing New Life Festival quests and all the new crown store stuff players are buying pretty much shows the "glory" days is still moving along. And a vast majority of those players have never visited this forum.

If you're do both PVE and PVP, work 40 hours a week, married and have kids, or have a busy life outside of the game, then this game is HUGE. I've been playing since PS4 launch and still haven't finished everything because I play only a couple of hours a day after work, and I switch between PVE and PVP when one gets boring.

I bought Overwatch and Battlefront because of Black Friday deals, but I get bored of the constant shooting and no real story. I lasted 3 months with Destiny. Loved it, but it got redundant.

The forum is a very, very, very small population.

Dev

Facts:

1. Originally a sub based game, that went to b2p
2. they didnt have a 'real' plan for end game, remember Cadwell's gold & the VR ranks
3. their 'adventure' zone turned into the biggest flop
4. They needed a cash shop
5. they added cash crate gambling
6. we still only have 4 trials, and other then pvp, there is nothing that needs more then a 4 man party,
7. there is barely a skeleton UI, so it creates a dependency on volunteer third party addon developers.

The definition of what ESO's glory days depends on personal preference, but from a business perspective i would think so.

they're just not adding the big "WOW' factor
('wow as in amazing, not the other game)

Balamoor

PhxOldGamer68 wrote: »

Seeing all the players doing New Life Festival quests and all the new crown store stuff players are buying pretty much shows the "glory" days is still moving along. And a vast majority of those players have never visited this forum.

If you're do both PVE and PVP, work 40 hours a week, married and have kids, or have a busy life outside of the game, then this game is HUGE. I've been playing since PS4 launch and still haven't finished everything because I play only a couple of hours a day after work, and I switch between PVE and PVP when one gets boring.

I bought Overwatch and Battlefront because of Black Friday deals, but I get bored of the constant shooting and no real story. I lasted 3 months with Destiny. Loved it, but it got redundant.

The forum is a very, very, very small population.

PhxOldGamer68 wrote: »

Seeing all the players doing New Life Festival quests and all the new crown store stuff players are buying pretty much shows the "glory" days is still moving along. And a vast majority of those players have never visited this forum.

If you're do both PVE and PVP, work 40 hours a week, married and have kids, or have a busy life outside of the game, then this game is HUGE. I've been playing since PS4 launch and still haven't finished everything because I play only a couple of hours a day after work, and I switch between PVE and PVP when one gets boring.

I bought Overwatch and Battlefront because of Black Friday deals, but I get bored of the constant shooting and no real story. I lasted 3 months with Destiny. Loved it, but it got redundant.

The forum is a very, very, very small population.

Pretty much this^^^

I personally find it hilarious that the whinetatstic hate machine (which consist of about 15 or 20 people) continually makes threads like this, in hopes of perpetuating the ESO is dying/dead myth.

Idiots like this have tried the exact same thing with games like LOTRO, SWTOR, DDO, Neverwinter, EQII, GW2, and just about every other MMo that is still around and still profitable despite armchair developers, claiming it's dead.

One of the most hilarious prediction quotes of 2017 came from the queen supreme idiot Bree Royce from Massivley OP
and I quote:

"SWTOR will continue to be profitable in 2017 but mmo vets won't be fooled."

What in the hell does that even mean? A game is profitable or it isn't... who gives a flying Nickleback album what virginal neck beards think?

The stupid surrounding threads like this and from the supposed gaming press is so thick that you can cut it with a knife and crap like this is why people make fun of gamers.

Sinthrax

Kendaric wrote: »

ESO's glory days came to an end the moment they announced and introduced the scam crates.

I believe the scam crates are a direct reflection of the fact the glory days are gone. They doing anything they can to recoup what money they can now. Maybe they can break even. They are trying hard.