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Azuras Star (PC EU): Do you like how it is?

Thraben
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Personally, I think there are far too many blue winning team joiners at the moment...who seem to think that a permablue map is good for everyone's fun in PvP.

Some more medium-scale red guild groups instead of the usual huge Blob would be greatly appreciated and could make the campaign interesting again.
Hauptmann der Dolche des Königs

DDK ist die letzte Verteidigungslinie des Dolchsturz- Bündnisses auf der 30-Tage-No-CP- Kampagne(EU) mit dem Anspruch, in kleinen, anfängerfreundlichen Raid-Gruppen möglichst epische Schlachten auszufechten.

DDK is the Daggerfall Covenant´s last line of defense on the 30 days no-cp campaign (EU). We intend to fight epic battles in small, casual player friendly raid groups.
  • kuro-dono
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    so sorry that my damn faction has gotten more players to ride on the bonuses :/ tho zenimax could put more effort to stop this situation
  • Ankael07
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    I agree a perma-colored map isnt healthy for pvp but eh.. I've seen what happened when Pact had the ''huge blob'' a couple of months ago. They would either lose the campaign to Covenant or win by a slight difference.
    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • ordraveeb17_ESO
    more blues more AP ))) but yep, i don't like then TF smurfs jump on our campaing and stuck on 1 keep ))) but i hope soon ZoS, will something do with jumpers )))
  • LjAnimalchin
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    I enjoy this campaign. If there are any AD players out there that run organized groups in pvp /w me in game or something. (@LJAnimalchin)
  • melloni_aleb16_ESO
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    I enjoy this campaign. If there are any AD players out there that run organized groups in pvp /w me in game or something. (@LJAnimalchin)

    There is an AD group ( 10-15 ) with 7-8 Sorcerers that spams enclose and destru ulti staff , highest skill ( new-meta)..to improve the plight of pvp . Whisper their

    :neutral:

    Edited by melloni_aleb16_ESO on December 27, 2016 12:46AM
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  • Thraben
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    Better 7-8 sorcs spamming destro ulti than 7-8 templars who do the same ;)

    3 of the 4 yell groups who do this offer everyone a fair chance to kill them anyway.

    What the yells need in Azura is a competent PUG leader, something both Reds and Blues have.
    Hauptmann der Dolche des Königs

    DDK ist die letzte Verteidigungslinie des Dolchsturz- Bündnisses auf der 30-Tage-No-CP- Kampagne(EU) mit dem Anspruch, in kleinen, anfängerfreundlichen Raid-Gruppen möglichst epische Schlachten auszufechten.

    DDK is the Daggerfall Covenant´s last line of defense on the 30 days no-cp campaign (EU). We intend to fight epic battles in small, casual player friendly raid groups.
  • CoachPower
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    Lol.. Look at Azura now.
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  • kuro-dono
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    to be honest, it was getting too booring when covenants breeze tru campaign after campaign into victory.

    but then yeah... reds could split their aoe choo choos bit to allow semi balanced fighting.
  • Cogo
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    Azura was hugly fun when Elite was around every day.

    Please note, I am NOT Elite, nor do I think they even like me very much. However,
    - Elite bring lots of EP pugs running in the same direction
    - Lots of EP pugs brings several AD and DC guilds "to farm easy AP"

    ..and lots of everything means lots of constant action.....

    Like Trueflame is these days B)
    Big boss brings his AD zerg, which bring DC guilds, which brings...well, me!
    Edited by Cogo on January 2, 2017 10:17PM
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  • prootch
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    Tought you were dead ?
  • Etaniel
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    Cogo wrote: »
    Azura was hugly fun when Elite was around every day.

    Please note, I am NOT Elite, nor do I think they even like me very much. However,
    - Elite bring lots of EP pugs running in the same direction
    - Lots of EP pugs brings several AD and DC guilds "to farm easy AP"

    ..and lots of everything means lots of constant action lag.....
    Here I corrected that for you
    Cogo wrote: »
    Like Trueflame is these days B)
    You are right about this one at least!
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  • Loicozor
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  • ordraveeb17_ESO
    Cogo wrote: »
    Azura was hugly fun when Elite was around every day.

    Please note, I am NOT Elite, nor do I think they even like me very much. However,
    - Elite bring lots of EP pugs running in the same direction
    - Lots of EP pugs brings several AD and DC guilds "to farm easy AP"

    ..and lots of everything means lots of constant action.....

    Like Trueflame is these days B)
    Big boss brings his AD zerg, which bring DC guilds, which brings...well, me!

    on Azura DE don't use more than 1 TS raid, sometimes we take randoms in our group(but i have on ts only 5)... like today, but we took 5 blue keeps + 1 blue scroll))) mostly we farmed them )))
  • inflaburwb17_ESO
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    Isn't this the Red vs Green campaign?
  • CoachPower
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    It doesn't matter how much DC zergs. There will ALWAYS be much more EP.
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    Lady Mormont - Stamina Dragonknight - Tank
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  • MLRPZ
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    We got bored of it after a couple month. so we will swap between TF and AZ depending on TF lag
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  • Forztr
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    I'm new to AZ EU and as a DC for life player my honest first impressions.

    This is a snapshot of Feb 2017 and not representative of the history of the campaign. I can only write about what I've seen.

    EP log on 13:00 GMT , all of them. By 14:00GMT it's pop locked for EP , they kill everything including fluffy tailed bunnies. until they hit the outer edge of the map in all directions. They do this even if the other faction doesn't have any scrolls to take.

    17:00 GMT DC start to fill up numbers and retake tri-keeps, it's a struggle. A group or two , that are probably organised guild raids attack and sometimes take EP tri keeps and steal a scroll.

    AD, my experiences with these guys is limited since I don't see many , but when I do it's usually an organised , 12 man blob synching up destro ultis and stacking on crown. They typically gatecrash perfectly good DC v EP seiges, or sometimes they set up a tower farm.

    Late evening when the EP numbers thin out one of two things happens , first nothing the campaign fizzles out for the day or two EP or sometimes AD will push a DC keep and all the random DC players questing or chilling will form up and defend , stay formed and nightcap.

    I'm very anti-nightcap but I'm even more anti-push to the gates if they don't have scrolls so yes, my name is Forztr and I have helped nightcap a map. And that's the problem that can never be solved I've done it twice because I felt EP deserved it for what they've been doing recently. They can justify the gate push as a response to a nightcap it's an unbreakable *** for tat cycle.

    Conclusion, If EP continue to push to gates the campaign will die. PVPers can qq about lag, balance, rewards, and a million other things, they can blame ZOS for all the issues with PVP but from where I'm sitting the players are killing PVP just fine all by themselves.
  • Thraben
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    Forztr wrote: »
    I'm new to AZ EU and as a DC for life player my honest first impressions.

    This is a snapshot of Feb 2017 and not representative of the history of the campaign. I can only write about what I've seen.

    EP log on 13:00 GMT , all of them. By 14:00GMT it's pop locked for EP , they kill everything including fluffy tailed bunnies. until they hit the outer edge of the map in all directions. They do this even if the other faction doesn't have any scrolls to take.

    17:00 GMT DC start to fill up numbers and retake tri-keeps, it's a struggle. A group or two , that are probably organised guild raids attack and sometimes take EP tri keeps and steal a scroll.

    AD, my experiences with these guys is limited since I don't see many , but when I do it's usually an organised , 12 man blob synching up destro ultis and stacking on crown. They typically gatecrash perfectly good DC v EP seiges, or sometimes they set up a tower farm.

    Late evening when the EP numbers thin out one of two things happens , first nothing the campaign fizzles out for the day or two EP or sometimes AD will push a DC keep and all the random DC players questing or chilling will form up and defend , stay formed and nightcap.

    Well observed. And it IS representative, although the blue nightcap has become somewhat rare and was replaced by the red one.

    I will leave the interpretation of the observed login times and playstyle variants to the well-meaning reader's mind ;)

    Edited by Thraben on February 24, 2017 9:44AM
    Hauptmann der Dolche des Königs

    DDK ist die letzte Verteidigungslinie des Dolchsturz- Bündnisses auf der 30-Tage-No-CP- Kampagne(EU) mit dem Anspruch, in kleinen, anfängerfreundlichen Raid-Gruppen möglichst epische Schlachten auszufechten.

    DDK is the Daggerfall Covenant´s last line of defense on the 30 days no-cp campaign (EU). We intend to fight epic battles in small, casual player friendly raid groups.
  • Arkangeloski
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    No
  • Turelus
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    I've been thinking of switching over to Azura but wasn't sure how the PvP population was.

    How is it for solo/small gang EP groups, I am guessing with the talk of blue dominated maps there are plenty of targets?
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • soll
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    Forztr wrote: »
    I'm new to AZ EU and as a DC for life player my honest first impressions...

    ...Conclusion, If EP continue to push to gates the campaign will die. PVPers can qq about lag, balance, rewards, and a million other things, they can blame ZOS for all the issues with PVP but from where I'm sitting the players are killing PVP just fine all by themselves.

    It's so hypocritically to see, when Azura DC complain about being gate pushed ;) no one is worry, when your alliance is pushing/nightcapping/dominating whole map.

    I guess you didn't see how DC killed this campaign before by exploiting scores. I would prefer being zerged down to the gate rather then exploit scores with low pop bonus.

    But I do agree with you, that it's the players who are killing PVP, but that's competitive sphere, where people would do every dirty thing to win.

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  • Thraben
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    Turelus wrote: »
    I've been thinking of switching over to Azura but wasn't sure how the PvP population was.

    How is it for solo/small gang EP groups, I am guessing with the talk of blue dominated maps there are plenty of targets?

    When I started the thread I was complaining about the "too blue" map, but at the moment, things are reversed; you will only find suitable targets after DC players have come home from their RL jobs. And you won´t find ANY unorganized AD players at all at other places than the Bridge.
    Hauptmann der Dolche des Königs

    DDK ist die letzte Verteidigungslinie des Dolchsturz- Bündnisses auf der 30-Tage-No-CP- Kampagne(EU) mit dem Anspruch, in kleinen, anfängerfreundlichen Raid-Gruppen möglichst epische Schlachten auszufechten.

    DDK is the Daggerfall Covenant´s last line of defense on the 30 days no-cp campaign (EU). We intend to fight epic battles in small, casual player friendly raid groups.
  • Turelus
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    Thraben wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I've been thinking of switching over to Azura but wasn't sure how the PvP population was.

    How is it for solo/small gang EP groups, I am guessing with the talk of blue dominated maps there are plenty of targets?

    When I started the thread I was complaining about the "too blue" map, but at the moment, things are reversed; you will only find suitable targets after DC players have come home from their RL jobs. And you won´t find ANY unorganized AD players at all at other places than the Bridge.

    So basically it's as worthless as every other campaign :disappointed:

    Still switching to Azura means I can go and PvP without needing to change my CP from farming mode every time.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    Very sad to enter Azuras and see everything red... respect to blues and yellows for not giving up.
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  • Decado
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    Azuras is pure and simple red maesive trains try Harding everything, they night cap and spent the day/evening running around in 80+ groups stomping ANYTHING that dares move, the amount of time I've been chased from 1 keep to another by 50 reds is just astonishing

    Oh and don't forget if you kill a few then when the whole Zerg gets you it's teabag time because they believe they are OP

    In all honestly it the Reds carry on with His frankly disgusting way of play and attitude they will eventually kill the campaign

    They have literally zero shame in the way They behave they will all justify it even as it slowly kills the campaign
  • xeNNNNN
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    kuro-dono wrote: »
    so sorry that my damn faction has gotten more players to ride on the bonuses :/ tho zenimax could put more effort to stop this situation

    We all have dreams. :/
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  • Duiwel
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    Sad that the blues are the least on regular times...

    You guys will have to get your fellow fighters out of retirement it seems, the lion is back with a vengeance!

    (not that I can PvP atm all I get is people standing still & then a login page to greet me)
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  • Runschei
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    We have several EP guilds in Azura?
  • Bam_Bam
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    Decado wrote: »
    Azuras is pure and simple red maesive trains try Harding everything, they night cap and spent the day/evening running around in 80+ groups stomping ANYTHING that dares move, the amount of time I've been chased from 1 keep to another by 50 reds is just astonishing

    Oh and don't forget if you kill a few then when the whole Zerg gets you it's teabag time because they believe they are OP

    In all honestly it the Reds carry on with His frankly disgusting way of play and attitude they will eventually kill the campaign

    They have literally zero shame in the way They behave they will all justify it even as it slowly kills the campaign

    I think you will find if you actually played there regularly, that DC is THE most populous alliance on the server. I think your post is very baity and inciteful but most of all untrue.

    Edited by Bam_Bam on March 3, 2017 10:49PM
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