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Food for thought: Stamina Healer

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Savos_Saren
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So, I've noticed that there's really only one role in this game that doesn't have an option for stamina. Healing. You've got stamina and magicka tanks, stamina and magicka DDs, and only magicka healers...

Perhaps if ZoS releases the Warden class- it could have some sort of stamina heal (besides the obvious Vigor)... like Green Balance? Something that uses stamina to heal the whole group. I just think it's strange that we don't have a stamina-based healer option. I know it sounds weird- but it's a strange as saying "Stamina Sorcerer". :D
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  • Browiseth
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    Honestly if half the skills in this game weren't as useless as they are (bone shield, blood altar, etc) I'm sure a stamina healer build could become a thing
    skingrad when zoscharacters:
    • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
    • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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  • Sogreth
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    I would EFFING LOVE THAT.

    I play a Healing Bowplar. But hybrid classes are complete garbage here. Having to split stats between Stam and Mag makes your character terribad.

    I still enjoy it, i have fun with him. But having a healer class based off of Stam would be a lot of fun.
  • Nifty2g
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    And I thought Sorc healers were bad
    #MOREORBS
  • FoolishHuman
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    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.
  • AzuraKin
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    jaburns wrote: »
    So, I've noticed that there's really only one role in this game that doesn't have an option for stamina. Healing. You've got stamina and magicka tanks, stamina and magicka DDs, and only magicka healers...

    Perhaps if ZoS releases the Warden class- it could have some sort of stamina heal (besides the obvious Vigor)... like Green Balance? Something that uses stamina to heal the whole group. I just think it's strange that we don't have a stamina-based healer option. I know it sounds weird- but it's a strange as saying "Stamina Sorcerer". :D

    STAMINA HEALS = VIGOR MOFO.
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  • Savos_Saren
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    Honestly if half the skills in this game weren't as useless as they are (bone shield, blood altar, etc) I'm sure a stamina healer build could become a thing

    I dunno, man, Bone Shield is actually a pretty sexy skill.
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  • Katahdin
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    Yea I don't think stam healing makes sense. Mag templar has not only the best heals but also some very good mag based dps
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Savos_Saren
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    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Yeah- because everything in this game makes sense. My mDK heals himself by burning people with fire... ;)
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  • FoolishHuman
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    jaburns wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Yeah- because everything in this game makes sense. My mDK heals himself by burning people with fire... ;)

    Because you are casting a spell. That actually makes sense. You wanna cast a spell that's not magic though.
  • Bumblebeelzebub
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    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Maybe the flavour could have something to do with potions or salves being applied melee range or antidotes and cures being applied via a dart or arrow. Maybe hucking packets of healing herbs at people could be a thing? I dunno.

    There's a stamina ability already that lets you absorb damage for an ally (Alliance War line?). There could be a fun synergy there.
    Edited by Bumblebeelzebub on December 20, 2016 6:13PM
  • Savos_Saren
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    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Yeah- because everything in this game makes sense. My mDK heals himself by burning people with fire... ;)

    Because you are casting a spell. That actually makes sense. You wanna cast a spell that's not magic though.

    There's a bunch of "spells" in this game that are stamina based. Look at Vigor. It's a close-ranged AOE heal that's stamina based. I'm talking about adding a few stamina-based larger AOE heals and perhaps some stamina-based single target heals. I'm not sure what your confusion is on this. Stamina-based spells have existed in this game since beta...
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  • SolarCat02
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    I would like to point out that magic spells are generally not covered under your health insurance plan.

    i.e., The real world has plenty of non-magic physical-style healing. I am sure something could work for stamina healing. Especially since Tamriel's physical abilities are much more magical/fantastical than the real world already.
    Why be normal when you can be better?

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  • Bumblebeelzebub
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    SolarCat02 wrote: »
    I would like to point out that magic spells are generally not covered under your health insurance plan.

    Except in Canada.
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Yeah- because everything in this game makes sense. My mDK heals himself by burning people with fire... ;)

    Because you are casting a spell. That actually makes sense. You wanna cast a spell that's not magic though.

    Vigour is a spell that is not magicka...and that heals

    does it make sense yet?
  • drakhan2002_ESO
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    If this is food for thought, then I've lost my appetite... I not a fan of this idea... but to each their own.
  • FoolishHuman
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    jaburns wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Yeah- because everything in this game makes sense. My mDK heals himself by burning people with fire... ;)

    Because you are casting a spell. That actually makes sense. You wanna cast a spell that's not magic though.

    There's a bunch of "spells" in this game that are stamina based. Look at Vigor. It's a close-ranged AOE heal that's stamina based. I'm talking about adding a few stamina-based larger AOE heals and perhaps some stamina-based single target heals. I'm not sure what your confusion is on this. Stamina-based spells have existed in this game since beta...

    These are some singular spells, most of them crutches because there is no other way to do it. But you are asking to make an entire playstyle out of it. "Green Balance" sounds like a spell to me, just because nature is green and stamina is green doesn't make it fit. I just don't think it would fit in the game to have an actual caster that uses stamina spells. Potions might work or bandages with a long cast time, I just don't think it would be worth it.
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    Sogreth wrote: »
    I would EFFING LOVE THAT.

    I play a Healing Bowplar. But hybrid classes are complete garbage here. Having to split stats between Stam and Mag makes your character terribad.

    I still enjoy it, i have fun with him. But having a healer class based off of Stam would be a lot of fun.

    How can one be so excited about a stam healed without knowing anything about it. The class could end up worse that a sorc healer for healing anytime by serious.
  • Bumblebeelzebub
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    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    These are some singular spells, most of them crutches because there is no other way to do it. But you are asking to make an entire playstyle out of it. "Green Balance" sounds like a spell to me, just because nature is green and stamina is green doesn't make it fit. I just don't think it would fit in the game to have an actual caster that uses stamina spells. Potions might work or bandages with a long cast time, I just don't think it would be worth it.

    I don't think it's impossible.

    - Healing darts (range)
    - Healing salve (melee)
    - Healing herbs (thrown AoE)

    The more I think about it the more I'd like to see a stam healer similar to the Operative healer in Star Wars (SWTOR).

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    Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
    Sogreth wrote: »
    I would EFFING LOVE THAT.

    I play a Healing Bowplar. But hybrid classes are complete garbage here. Having to split stats between Stam and Mag makes your character terribad.

    I still enjoy it, i have fun with him. But having a healer class based off of Stam would be a lot of fun.

    How can one be so excited about a stam healed without knowing anything about it. The class could end up worse that a sorc healer for healing anytime by serious.

    @Giles.floydub17_ESO

    Yeah... but remember when the concept of a Stam Sorc was this weird, redheaded stepchild when ESO first came out? After a few tweaks- it's now a very powerful build. Try to keep an open mind.
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  • idk
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    Bumblebeelzebub wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    These are some singular spells, most of them crutches because there is no other way to do it. But you are asking to make an entire playstyle out of it. "Green Balance" sounds like a spell to me, just because nature is green and stamina is green doesn't make it fit. I just don't think it would fit in the game to have an actual caster that uses stamina spells. Potions might work or bandages with a long cast time, I just don't think it would be worth it.

    I don't think it's impossible.

    - Healing darts (range)
    - Healing salve (melee)
    - Healing herbs (thrown AoE)

    The more I think about it the more I'd like to see a stam healer similar to the Operative healer in Star Wars (SWTOR).

    SWTOR healing doesnt work in this game. Additionally, if all it can do is heal then it's pointless. Obviously it can provide dps but is must has some buffs.

    Further, without a weapon to support it it'll probably struggle.

    Healing in this game is constant hots, buffing then add a little dps. Rinse and repeat. An occasional instant heal.
    Edited by idk on December 20, 2016 6:31PM
  • Bumblebeelzebub
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    Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

    SWTOR healing doesnt work in this game. Additionally, if all it can do is heal then it's pointless. Obviously it can provide dps but is must has some buffs.

    Further, without a weapon to support it it'll probably struggle.

    Who says that healing has to be all it can do? Fire CCs and debuffs from darts as well. Packets of poisonous spore clouds could be thrown to do similar effects.

    Why wouldn't there be a weapon? Heavy attacks from any normal weapon would restore your stamina. The bow would be great for a class like I'm describing. Also that could be another source of damage and CC.

    Get creative, yo.
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    Nvm
    Edited by idk on December 20, 2016 6:55PM
  • Tryxus
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    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Massages
    Hugs
    Kiss the booboo

    All physical heals :wink:
    Edited by Tryxus on December 20, 2016 7:05PM
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  • Kodrac
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    stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Yeah- because everything in this game makes sense. My mDK heals himself by burning people with fire... ;)

    Because you are casting a spell. That actually makes sense. You wanna cast a spell that's not magic though.

    Vigour is a spell that is not magicka...and that heals

    does it make sense yet?

    Hmmmm... nope. Better nerf Vigor then.

    :trollface:
  • itsfatbass
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    No. Def not.
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  • Bumblebeelzebub
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    jphipps85b14_ESO1 wrote: »
    No. Def not.

    Yes. Def ya.
  • Savos_Saren
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    FoolishHuman wrote: »
    Stamina skills are physical, so how would this work? Apply bandages? Sounds like a bad idea.

    Massages
    Hugs
    Kiss the booboo

    All physical heals :wink:

    @Tryxus

    I wonder what kind of physical heal "Vigor" is? Flex and let stinky armpits heal all those surrounding you..?
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  • Auricle
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    Stamina heals? Sure, why not. Tamriel is a weird place, where you heal yourself by burning others, heal yourself by sucking the life out of people, or even by yelling and throwing your arms in the air...

    What I'd like to see more than just a stamina healer is a stamina support/buff class that, by applying preventative skills and having good planning/timing can keep a team alive. That might be more interesting/believable than a line of skills that are stamina-based but look and feel just like magicka skills...
  • itsfatbass
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    Bumblebeelzebub wrote: »
    jphipps85b14_ESO1 wrote: »
    No. Def not.

    Yes. Def ya.

    Roll a mag character if you want to heal that badly... pretty simple heh
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  • Hateanthem
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    The stamina heal will be throwing IFAKS at everyone in the group. Wind up animation like a baseball pitch.
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