Can Ilambris Proc Both Damage Types at the Same Time?

ArchMikem

After some soliciting for a group I JUST got my first 2pc Monster Set, Ilambris. And after doing some more Dungeons I started to notice things. The character is a MagSorc using Lightning, so doing so proc's the Shock damage type of Ilambris. But during several fights when I would cast Meteor, I also noticed the Flame damage type was proc-ing...on top of the Shock type. At least I'm 90% sure it was, I may have been getting it confused for my Liquid Lightning ability, they look somewhat similar but I could've swore that Ilambris was proc-ing both damage types, the Flame from Meteor and the Shock from my other attacks. Is this a thing?

susmitds

Yes, they do proc together and in fact that is what makes it good.

SolarCat02

Both damage type procs are on different cooldown timers, so yes they can proc at the same time or at any time independently of the other. That's the beauty of it.

Waffennacht

SolarCat02 wrote: »

Both damage type procs are on different cooldown timers, so yes they can proc at the same time or at any time independently of the other. That's the beauty of it.

If you're only getting one proc from it, you're substantially losing dps compared to the other set choices (skoria, etc)

NordSwordnBoard

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

acw37162

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

Liquid Lightening - Flame Wall of Elements is the best way to proc both effects actually.

EldritchPenguin

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

But Ilambris doesn't have an Ice proc, which means the Ice damage from Force Pulse is wasted.

As acw said, it's much better to proc it from Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Flame.

Waffennacht

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

But Ilambris doesn't have an Ice proc, which means the Ice damage from Force Pulse is wasted.

As acw said, it's much better to proc it from Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Flame.

Agreed... but could you imagine a triple proc Ice Fire Lightning Rock Opera!

DRXHarbinger

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

But Ilambris doesn't have an Ice proc, which means the Ice damage from Force Pulse is wasted.

As acw said, it's much better to proc it from Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Flame.

Hardly. You should all be using force pulse as mag dps anyway. If you're not using it and using others to make space on your bars just for procs then you are losing dps.

Countcalorie

Waffennacht wrote: »

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

But Ilambris doesn't have an Ice proc, which means the Ice damage from Force Pulse is wasted.

As acw said, it's much better to proc it from Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Flame.

Agreed... but could you imagine a triple proc Ice Fire Lightning Rock Opera!

Winterborn as well Maybe? Perhaps if warden was released...

acw37162

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

But Ilambris doesn't have an Ice proc, which means the Ice damage from Force Pulse is wasted.

As acw said, it's much better to proc it from Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Flame.

Hardly. You should all be using force pulse as mag dps anyway. If you're not using it and using others to make space on your bars just for procs then you are losing dps.

Brother, you know when your taught to save a drowing victim they teach you some people don't know how to be saved will freak the *** out and try to drown you for helping them. Your taught a technique to help with that I'll try an Internet version for you.

Can force pulse proc both effects, yes.

If you are really, really good with a weave you can weave a light attack force pulse every second and half or so assuming stationary targets, no other moving pieces, etc. on one target.

1 chance every 1.25 - 1.5 seconds in perfect scenarios.

Or

You drop wall of elements (flame) and liquid lightening and then weave force pulse you have 3 chances every 1 seconds or so on your primary target and 2 chances or any other targets in your AOE.

So on 1 target

3 chances every 1 second or so with increase when multiple targets are present.

And by the way your loosing DPS if your not dropping your AoE's before you start weaving force pulse.

Take the help or don't atvthis point you can drown if you want to.

DHale

Yes both since pts.

Morgul667

How much DPS you get in total with Llambris ?

I can see they proc both in visual effects but the DPS remains more or less similar ? 2k + ?

DRXHarbinger

acw37162 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

But Ilambris doesn't have an Ice proc, which means the Ice damage from Force Pulse is wasted.

As acw said, it's much better to proc it from Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Flame.

Hardly. You should all be using force pulse as mag dps anyway. If you're not using it and using others to make space on your bars just for procs then you are losing dps.

Brother, you know when your taught to save a drowing victim they teach you some people don't know how to be saved will freak the *** out and try to drown you for helping them. Your taught a technique to help with that I'll try an Internet version for you.

Can force pulse proc both effects, yes.

If you are really, really good with a weave you can weave a light attack force pulse every second and half or so assuming stationary targets, no other moving pieces, etc. on one target.

1 chance every 1.25 - 1.5 seconds in perfect scenarios.

Or

You drop wall of elements (flame) and liquid lightening and then weave force pulse you have 3 chances every 1 seconds or so on your primary target and 2 chances or any other targets in your AOE.

So on 1 target

3 chances every 1 second or so with increase when multiple targets are present.

And by the way your loosing DPS if your not dropping your AoE's before you start weaving force pulse.

Take the help or don't atvthis point you can drown if you want to.

Bro you mad? Of course as a beast sorc I know what I'm doing. My comment was aimed at someone implying not to bother with force pulse.

acw37162

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Destro Pulse/Shock is best way to get it going as it uses 3 elements.

But Ilambris doesn't have an Ice proc, which means the Ice damage from Force Pulse is wasted.

As acw said, it's much better to proc it from Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Flame.

Hardly. You should all be using force pulse as mag dps anyway. If you're not using it and using others to make space on your bars just for procs then you are losing dps.

Brother, you know when your taught to save a drowing victim they teach you some people don't know how to be saved will freak the *** out and try to drown you for helping them. Your taught a technique to help with that I'll try an Internet version for you.

Can force pulse proc both effects, yes.

If you are really, really good with a weave you can weave a light attack force pulse every second and half or so assuming stationary targets, no other moving pieces, etc. on one target.

1 chance every 1.25 - 1.5 seconds in perfect scenarios.

Or

You drop wall of elements (flame) and liquid lightening and then weave force pulse you have 3 chances every 1 seconds or so on your primary target and 2 chances or any other targets in your AOE.

So on 1 target

3 chances every 1 second or so with increase when multiple targets are present.

And by the way your loosing DPS if your not dropping your AoE's before you start weaving force pulse.

Take the help or don't atvthis point you can drown if you want to.

Bro you mad? Of course as a beast sorc I know what I'm doing. My comment was aimed at someone implying not to bother with force pulse.

Mad, not even a little.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes, this is one of the reasons why sorcs now run Inferno on back bar in PVE. It allows them to have a fire DOT in Blockade and a lightning DOT in Liquid Lightening. If you are good at keeping both up, both types of Llambris will proc a lot. On 40k VMOL parses, they can be 3k DPS each. Force pulse helps, but its your DOTS that make this set shine.

Edit: No idea why people are getting into a pissing contest over what procs this set. The biggest impact is your DOTs, probably followed by your Force pulse, probably followed by your light weaves. Most sorcs run a lightening and a fire staff, so both contribute. Force pulse does both so it contributes. Since pretty much every fight now has AOE, your aoe DOTS contribute more. It's not rocket science. If you took any of these away, your Llambris DPS would suffer.

bobdrad

If you use a lightning staff with a fire enchant then every light attack in your weave has a chance to proc both.

OG_Kaveman

It ought to be noted in this thread that pets don't proc it. That's both sorc pets and both pets of the necro, blastbones and skeletal arcanist.