"Hurr durr stop whining"

rotaugen454

Git gud

ManwithBeard9

You know you don't have to be here, right?

HatchetHaro

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

You know you don't have to be here, right?

pfft lmao that comment is the type of crap i'm talking about, see.

Woeler

Stop whining.

ManwithBeard9

HatchetHaro wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

You know you don't have to be here, right?

pfft lmao that comment is the type of crap i'm talking about, see.

So if the game doesn't cater to your needs, everyone else needs to shut up and follow you, so you can get what you want.

diamondeyethunderbow_ESO

"People don't take my long ill-conceived rants about the state of the game very well, so I'll create a long rant complaining about them complaining about my long, ill-conceived rants!"

Sounds like a logical course of action to me. Obviously now everyone will just be quiet and let you state your terrible opinions unopposed instead of just trolling you. Nothing can go wrong with this.

HatchetHaro

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

So if the game doesn't cater to your needs, everyone else needs to shut up and follow you, so you can get what you want.

You have now officially completely missed the point.
See, this isn't about "needs". This is about improving the game experience.
My point is that everyone else needs to shut up unless they have something actually useful to say, such as actual logical counter-arguments to the complaints, rather than a simple "hurr durr stop whining" to just feel superior to the other party.

Bumblebeelzebub

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Edited original post to add in more thoughts that I gained from your responses.

Basically, most of you whining about whiners aren't contributing anything useful to the discussion at all, further proving my point.

Whoever described this as a tantrum wasn't wrong.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

HatchetHaro wrote: »

"Stop whining! Stop crying! Stop bitching! Stop being such a whiny ***! Don't play the game if you don't like it! Hurr dee durr!"

You can always find that one post that says something along the lines of these in every complaint thread.

And I'm *** tired of it.

I paid for the game, I have the bloody right to complain all the bloody hell I want about it. If you like a sub-par gaming experience, sure thing, go ahead and kiss up to ZOS's beautiful behinds all you want, but those of us that are tired of the way ZOS is treating its customers can and will complain about the crap that is currently in the game right now.

There are so many things to complain about in this game, and innumerable people have raised their voices about it. Proc sets, RNG, Crown crates, race/appearance/name-change tokens (EDIT: I meant the ridiculous price for a simple slider that removes that ugly tiara on your head that you thought looked cool when you created your character high on skooma two years ago), RNG, server downtime, vMA, complete lack of assets in use (children, beast race skeletons), RNG, awful walk/run animations, cash-grabbing crap, TBS Mundus-reactivation, RNG, the huge list of game-breaking bugs, etc. etc. etc. The list goes on and on and on.

And ZOS did little-to-nothing about these over the years the ESO player base petitioned about all of these.

And here's the thing: we still love the game; that's exactly why we're complaining about it. If we stopped liking the game we would just drop it and go.

See, ZOS did a pretty good job on the game, and I applaud them for that, but there are so many things they can improve with the game and make the game experience better for everyone.

YOU, yes, you, the ZOS butt-kisser, the "stop whining" keyboard warriors. You are the ones inhibiting this stream of improvements and keeping the game experience sub-par for all of us.

So stop, let us complain and formulate opinions to ZOS on how they can improve their beloved game in peace.

EDIT: I forgot to add that these "stop whining" posts aren't even constructive at all and is even an insult to the people who actually cared enough to point out the game's problems and suggest workarounds and fixes. Basically, by saying "stop whining", you devalue the amount of thought the complaining party put into suggestions and add absolutely nothing useful to the discussion.

inb4

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Edited original post to add in more thoughts that I gained from your responses.

Basically, most of you whining about whiners aren't contributing anything useful to the discussion at all, further proving my point.

*drops mic*

*Picks up mic*
*Places mic in mic stand*
*Wonders if OP understands mic dropping*
*Sees more posts from OP*
*Confirms OP does not*

Anyway, what about the ten million things they have fixed?

Sunver

This thread ruined and improved my life.

diamondeyethunderbow_ESO

HatchetHaro wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

So if the game doesn't cater to your needs, everyone else needs to shut up and follow you, so you can get what you want.

You have now officially completely missed the point.
See, this isn't about "needs". This is about improving the game experience.
My point is that everyone else needs to shut up unless they have something actually useful to say, such as actual logical counter-arguments to the complaints, rather than a simple "hurr durr stop whining" to just feel superior to the other party.

What makes you so sure that the complaints are deserving of this level of discourse in the first place?

The vast majority of complaints are somewhere between "not entirely accurate" and "I can't even understand what this illiterate fool is talking about".

Stovahkiin

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Edited original post to add in more thoughts that I gained from your responses.

Basically, most of you whining about whiners aren't contributing anything useful to the discussion at all, further proving my point.

*drops mic*

Troll?

Pallio

Not sure what it said after "bloody hell", I was offended at that point and had to go to my happy place, but, good luck on whatever your point was there.

alexkdd99

Except most everything you just mentioned are all your opinions of what's wrong, not all but most. So just like your allowed to complain (within reason) we are allowed to voice our objections of your complaints.

A complaint thread about other complaint threads? Did we run out of things to complain about?

Doctordarkspawn

There's been alot of it on my posts. Talk about difficulty in any capacity of 'make it easier' and the hardcore community will jump down your throat with the ferocity of wild animals and the grammer of five year olds.

Stovahkiin

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

There's been alot of it on my posts. Talk about difficulty in any capacity of 'make it easier' and the hardcore community will jump down your throat with the ferocity of wild animals and the grammer of five year olds.

*Grammar

Five year olds you say?

Stopnaggin

HatchetHaro wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

So if the game doesn't cater to your needs, everyone else needs to shut up and follow you, so you can get what you want.

You have now officially completely missed the point.
See, this isn't about "needs". This is about improving the game experience.
My point is that everyone else needs to shut up unless they have something actually useful to say, such as actual logical counter-arguments to the complaints, rather than a simple "hurr durr stop whining" to just feel superior to the other party.

But in previous posts in this thread you turn to condescending behavior. So if someone counters you then you try to insult them.

And I'm sorry but starting a thread with that rant you should realize the coments that follow will be coming. Eventually this thread and many others like it will be closed, never to see the light of day again.

Now with that out of the way. Yes many bugs long standing bugs should be fixed. I can agree with most of what you stated, but your delivery is hard to swallow.
Rng is terrible in this game
Proc sets are broken
Endless load screens
Disconnecting every time I fast travel
Pvp, ah just a mess
Crafting so far behind its sad
Crown crates, no big deal really
Immersion, have we actually had any?

You have a right to be pissed just as others have a right to be satisfied. If the things you listed are game breaking take a break and see if anything gets fixed with the new update.

Oh and just because
Whining about whining smh. J/K

Illumisar

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Actually, I'm pointing out the ones that exist in actual constructive complaints, so the things you're pointing out isn't even valid.

I have never seen these "ill-tempered, self-entitled, self-important, histrionic screeds", and quite frankly, I don't care for them.

However, most complaints are constructive, and the things I have pointed out already has plenty of logic behind complaining about them. What I am miffed about are the devs pulling obvious cash-grabs at every chance they get despite all the PTR players opposing them for months.

Keep trying, sweetie. Maybe you'll get the point one day.

"Complaints" is plural. You meant to say "... so the things you're pointing out aren't..."

If you have never seen these "things" how do you know you do not care for them? Logic says???

"Things" is plural so you meant to say, "...already have plenty of logic..."

So look Moon Pie, as laid out in my first post, the same emotional and intellectual deficiencies that cause/allow you to spew out this kind of petulant, self-involved drivel also, alas, prevent you from recognizing just how inappropriately petulant and self-involved your behavior really is. Mores the pity to be you.

Because apart from your remedial grasp of Standard Written English (L2English, n00b) no, what you are "miffed" about is that you do not command immediate and total acquiescence to your childish whims the moment you cast them out into the world. Whether or not anything you say has any actual value or relevance, you lose all credibility because the way you express yourself is either intentionally trollish or utterly oblivious to the way in which adults with mature emotional intelligence perceive your "voice".

So, buy a clue kid, and grow up a little. Every pouty, ungrammatical, I Can't Be Wrong Because It's MEEEEEEE, reply just makes you look worse.

Again: Get. Help.

Or get used to a life of ever-increasing frustration and disappointment.

I'm genuinely hoping that some day you will get the point.

sneakymitchell

There are different discussion about things. This one is about what is happening in the game. Players just get butt hurt for things other players say.

HatchetHaro

Illumisar wrote: »

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Actually, I'm pointing out the ones that exist in actual constructive complaints, so the things you're pointing out isn't even valid.

I have never seen these "ill-tempered, self-entitled, self-important, histrionic screeds", and quite frankly, I don't care for them.

However, most complaints are constructive, and the things I have pointed out already has plenty of logic behind complaining about them. What I am miffed about are the devs pulling obvious cash-grabs at every chance they get despite all the PTR players opposing them for months.

Keep trying, sweetie. Maybe you'll get the point one day.

"Complaints" is plural. You meant to say "... so the things you're pointing out aren't..."

If you have never seen these "things" how do you know you do not care for them? Logic says???

"Things" is plural so you meant to say, "...already have plenty of logic..."

So look Moon Pie, as laid out in my first post, the same emotional and intellectual deficiencies that cause/allow you to spew out this kind of petulant, self-involved drivel also, alas, prevent you from recognizing just how inappropriately petulant and self-involved your behavior really is. Mores the pity to be you.

Because apart from your remedial grasp of Standard Written English (L2English, n00b) no, what you are "miffed" about is that hurr dee durr dee durr

So, buy a clue kid, and grow up a little. Every pouty, ungrammatical, I Can't Be Wrong Because It's MEEEEEEE, reply just makes you look worse.

Again: Get. Help.

Or get used to a life of ever-increasing frustration and disappointment.

I'm genuinely hoping that some day you will get the point.

So instead of getting to the point you choose to instead start attacking my English.
Yeah, nice, good job, not even registering the fact that I may not be a native English speaker.
你看! 種族歧視啊!

At that, you've already lost, kiddo. I'm not even going to entertain any more of your racist and insulting BS.

Ankael07

Dont forget the ''its just a game bro'' crowd. They like to casually ignore the fact that I not only invested money in this game but hours of my life to hone my skills and enjoy my hobby better.

Stovahkiin

Ankael07 wrote: »

Dont forget the ''its just a game bro'' crowd. They like to casually ignore the fact that I not only invested money in this game but hours of my life to hone my skills and enjoy my hobby better.

It's just a game bro...



Sorry :P

ShadowscaleSithis

TBS 2nd mundus stone should not be saved or anything to appease players. You are at the mercy of the Deadra with those (or whoever made them). If you keep switching to get a different benefit I am pretty sure the person in charge of the mundus stones will say Forget You -- you can go play in the road.

a1i3nz

Cryhards

Banana

Your keyboard needs a nerf

AnviOfVai

My thoughts through this whole post.

ZOS_JohanaB

As this thread is not producing a constructive conversation and almost every post is bait we will be closing this thread. In the future please remember be civil, be constructive, and follow the community rules.