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  • JD2013
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    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    Believe me that's not me putting you in a corner :wink:

    The thing is, had they said "definitely not" then that's a concrete answer. If you say "I have no plans ..." then that leaves wiggle room. For example, I had no plans to be ill this week. However I've been sick for 3 days now with some kind of cold like virus.

    No plans is not a concrete no.

    I'll be sure to bring my lawyer next time I casually read gaming sub Reddit .

    Oh come on let's not be so formal. Life is filled with technicalities. It's what makes life so unpredictable! :smile:

    I prefer people's yes to mean yes and no's to mean no . All other English was written by liars .

    I get that, I truly do. But the world isn't just black and white, yes or no, good and evil, there's a whole spectrum of grey areas between.

    Because plans change, life takes a different course, not everything is able to be concrete. Go out and enjoy the middle ground sometime. I find these days there's far too much inflexibility and you have to be either a yes or a no. With us or against us. That kind of thing.

    But I digress, we do seem to have gotten off topic a little!
    Sweetrolls for all!

    Christophe Mottierre - Breton Templar with his own whole darn estate! Templar Houses are so 2015. EU DC

    PC Beta Tester January 2014

    Elder of The Black
    Order of Sithis
    The Runners

    @TamrielTraverse - For Tamriel related Twitter shenanigans!
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    Believe me that's not me putting you in a corner :wink:

    The thing is, had they said "definitely not" then that's a concrete answer. If you say "I have no plans ..." then that leaves wiggle room. For example, I had no plans to be ill this week. However I've been sick for 3 days now with some kind of cold like virus.

    No plans is not a concrete no.

    I'll be sure to bring my lawyer next time I casually read gaming sub Reddit .

    Oh come on let's not be so formal. Life is filled with technicalities. It's what makes life so unpredictable! :smile:

    I prefer people's yes to mean yes and no's to mean no . All other English was written by liars .

    Dr%20House%20Everybody%20Lies.jpg

    No , liars say that to feel better . It doesn't make it true .
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Oh so many, where do I start? Let's start with Matt
    "We take feedback from the community very seriously,” he says. “That led us to some things like the world not feeling interactive enough, so that’s when we put in the ability to pick up armour and weapons you see lying around, or looting anything in any crate anywhere."
    -Matt Firor
    Crafters still make the best gear in the game and can improve all gear found. So, because everyone wants better gear, crafters play a huge role in PvP.
    Matt Firor



    Then of course we have this gem:
    " Charging a flat monthly (or subscription) fee means that we will offer players the game we set out to make, and the one that fans want to play. Going with any other model meant that we would have to make sacrifices and changes we weren't willing to make."
    -Mat Firor

    Don't ever lie to the internet, because they will catch you. They will de-construct your spin. They will remember everything you say for eternity
    Gabe Newell
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on December 7, 2016 6:17PM
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    Believe me that's not me putting you in a corner :wink:

    The thing is, had they said "definitely not" then that's a concrete answer. If you say "I have no plans ..." then that leaves wiggle room. For example, I had no plans to be ill this week. However I've been sick for 3 days now with some kind of cold like virus.

    No plans is not a concrete no.

    I'll be sure to bring my lawyer next time I casually read gaming sub Reddit .

    Oh come on let's not be so formal. Life is filled with technicalities. It's what makes life so unpredictable! :smile:

    I prefer people's yes to mean yes and no's to mean no . All other English was written by liars .

    I get that, I truly do. But the world isn't just black and white, yes or no, good and evil, there's a whole spectrum of grey areas between.

    Because plans change, life takes a different course, not everything is able to be concrete. Go out and enjoy the middle ground sometime. I find these days there's far too much inflexibility and you have to be either a yes or a no. With us or against us. That kind of thing.

    But I digress, we do seem to have gotten off topic a little!

    I agree we are off topic . My parents raised me different from a lot of people . Very spiritual background both of them . My father said these things . He hated contracts too . Said they were made by liars to protect liars from other liars . Good men don't need contracts ...

    Anyways back to dev quotes .
  • Abeille
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    The_Adoring_Fan wrote: »
    "Back rub, perhaps?"
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    No, but then is it really fair to expect everyone to be held to things they said a year ago? Unless anyone can prove that they lied, and that they actually did have such plans a year ago, then - like all such quotes - it's a non-story.
  • Stovahkiin
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    "You know you don't have to be here, right?"

    This is exactly what I thought of as soon as I saw the thread title
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • Abeille
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    rootimus wrote: »
    nordsavage wrote: »
    "You don't have to be here you know"- pretty sure that was Wheeler.

    It was Richard Lambert.

    Yeah, he said that to some whiner who interrupted a unexpected Q&A between him and the community here on the forums with his rants.

    That got a +1 from me :p

    Yeah, and then people took it and used it as if he was telling people to leave the game or something, which I think is pretty unfair.
    He got an "awesome" from me.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • SG_Celerrimus
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    Looking at the quotes posted, yea the strayed a bit here and there over the course of the last few years, but more or less have stayed on point with what they said. When they talked about not wanting to switch from a subscription to another model because they didn't want to have to make sacrifices in regards to gameplay and game stuff, perhaps crown crates were one of those things they didn't want to add in but had to due to money and production reasons. Good on you ZOS!
    Severity Gaming
  • Grabmoore
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    "Templar play very differently of "I'm more about putting down areas of protection and I want to stand in these, and like this is, this is sort of likemy house and if you come into my house it's gonna be bad for you" -Eric Wrobel
    EU - PC - Ebonheart Pact
    Iggy Grabmoore - Argonian Magicka Templar | Nyctasha - Redguard Stamina Nightblade
    Do-Ra'Zhar - Khajiit Stamina DK | Ashmedi - Dunmer Magicka DK
    Vanya Darchow - AD Altmer Magicka Sorc | Malek gro'Kash - Orc Stam Sorc
    GM of "Handelshaus von Riften" - Trading & PvX Community
  • BlackSparrow
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    Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

    Don't ever lie to the internet, because they will catch you. They will de-construct your spin. They will remember everything you say for eternity

    Gabe Newell

    That one is legitimately wise.

    Edited by BlackSparrow on December 7, 2016 6:36PM
    Living vicariously through my characters.

    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    Soon.

    Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen | Altmer Templar | Magicka | 9-Trait Master Crafter/Jeweler | Master Angler | PVE Main - Killed by U35
    Jahsul at-Sahan | Redguard Sorcerer | Stamina | Werewolf - Free Bites | PVP Main
    Derrok Gunnolf | Redguard Dragonknight | Stamina | Werewolf - Free Bites
    Liliana Littleleaf | 9-Trait Grand Master Crafter/Jeweler (non-combat)
    Amber Emberheart | Breton Dragonknight | Stamina | Master Angler
    Vlos Anon | Dunmer Nightblade | Magicka | Vampire - Free Bites
    Kalina Valos | Dunmer Warden | Magicka | Vampire - Free Bites
    Swiftpaws-Moonshadow | Khajiit Nightblade | Stamina
    Morgul Vardar | Altmer Necromancer | Magicka
    Tithin Geil | Altmer Sorceress | Magicka
    Dhryk | Imperial Dragonknight | Stamina

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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Solus wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    Believe me that's not me putting you in a corner :wink:

    The thing is, had they said "definitely not" then that's a concrete answer. If you say "I have no plans ..." then that leaves wiggle room. For example, I had no plans to be ill this week. However I've been sick for 3 days now with some kind of cold like virus.

    No plans is not a concrete no.

    I'll be sure to bring my lawyer next time I casually read gaming sub Reddit .

    Oh come on let's not be so formal. Life is filled with technicalities. It's what makes life so unpredictable! :smile:

    I prefer people's yes to mean yes and no's to mean no . All other English was written by liars .

    Or women. -FeelsBadMan

    My Mother would give you a quarter portion at the dinner table for saying that . Just enough to keep you alive another day . She would also give the stare of shame while you ate . Women are to be honored my friend . Those are Our moms and sisters .
  • JKorr
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    That reddit quote; technically not a lie.

    We have no plans to add locked rng boxes to the game.

    And they haven't. The clown crates aren't locked. The quote has nothing about not adding *unlocked* rng boxes.


    I was in that thread with the "You don't have to be here" statement; it was a dev, talking about playing the game as a player, to other players. Not a "HEY! ITS A DEV! LET"S DEMAND ANSWERS TO EVERY SINGLE THING I SAY IS A PROBLEM!" thread. He got an AWESOME from me for it. The devs don't come to the forums barely at all as it is. If one of them wanted to have a discussion about playing the game as a player, why would someone basically verbally attack him for it, demanding answers for issues he may not be allowed to reply to?
  • Thealteregoroman
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    I am Triggered. Close this thread.
    ****Master Healer...****
  • bellanca6561n
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    Rather than jump on a frequent and valuable contributor to these forums, I see it as a larger issue.

    I had to try and fix a communications problem once of this sort. The community of an online game had heard the community manager use the phrase, "In about two weeks," in predicting a fix for an in-game issue. Every game has one....soon is often used in most.

    Well, that phrase took on a life of it's own when players became frustrated. Sometimes you'd see three posts in a row...about...two...weeks. Just one of those words in each.

    The poor fellow went through every post he'd ever made. He never found that phrase used by him.

    But, in the end, it's not what you say. It's what players heard you say.

    And many players heard ZOS say they'd never introduce the RNG boxes.

    Communication requires you to take responsibility not for what you say, but what people hear you say. It's not fair but that's what makes effective communication as much art as skill
  • Solus
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    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    Solus wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    Believe me that's not me putting you in a corner :wink:

    The thing is, had they said "definitely not" then that's a concrete answer. If you say "I have no plans ..." then that leaves wiggle room. For example, I had no plans to be ill this week. However I've been sick for 3 days now with some kind of cold like virus.

    No plans is not a concrete no.

    I'll be sure to bring my lawyer next time I casually read gaming sub Reddit .

    Oh come on let's not be so formal. Life is filled with technicalities. It's what makes life so unpredictable! :smile:

    I prefer people's yes to mean yes and no's to mean no . All other English was written by liars .

    Or women. -FeelsBadMan

    My Mother would give you a quarter portion at the dinner table for saying that . Just enough to keep you alive another day . She would also give the stare of shame while you ate . Women are to be honored my friend . Those are Our moms and sisters .

    Well yes the short answer is yes. I completely agree with you and i said that facetiously.

    There are two sides to every coin, however.
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    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    My PC: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/GGWXsY
  • SturgeHammer
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    I think it was the ESO live with Wheeler and the white board, but at some point he says he has "a stack of notebooks that thick <hand gesture to indicate size of stack> for just our game", with "our game" of course referring to ESO. To me the inclusion of "just our game" would tend to indicate that he also has a stack for another game. Since then I've been curious about what other game they could be working with that has an Alliance war style multiplayer.

    Edit: Episode 30 for anyone who is curious.
    Edited by SturgeHammer on December 7, 2016 8:40PM
    First-in-Line - Swings-for-Lethal
    Green-Thumb - Scale-Factor
    Hist-Tree-Major - A-Late-One
    Needs-Some-Help - Dead-Last
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    No, but then is it really fair to expect everyone to be held to things they said a year ago? Unless anyone can prove that they lied, and that they actually did have such plans a year ago, then - like all such quotes - it's a non-story.

    It is sort of funny in the world of mmos.

    They said that a year ago, you cant hold that against them. That was a long time ago and things change.

    You are complaining about lack of content? It has only been a year. That is a short time in an mmo.
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on December 7, 2016 8:37PM
  • Adamon2
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    Soon.
  • Ahzek
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    Grabmoore wrote: »
    "Templar play very differently of "I'm more about putting down areas of protection and I want to stand in these, and like this is, this is sort of likemy house and if you come into my house it's gonna be bad for you" -Eric Wrobel

    This one is just pure gold.
    Jo'Khaljor
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    "Heghheghh*voice crackeghheghhegh" -Wrobel laugh.
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    JKorr wrote: »
    That reddit quote; technically not a lie.

    We have no plans to add locked rng boxes to the game.

    And they haven't. The clown crates aren't locked. The quote has nothing about not adding *unlocked* rng boxes.


    I was in that thread with the "You don't have to be here" statement; it was a dev, talking about playing the game as a player, to other players. Not a "HEY! ITS A DEV! LET"S DEMAND ANSWERS TO EVERY SINGLE THING I SAY IS A PROBLEM!" thread. He got an AWESOME from me for it. The devs don't come to the forums barely at all as it is. If one of them wanted to have a discussion about playing the game as a player, why would someone basically verbally attack him for it, demanding answers for issues he may not be allowed to reply to?

    Well "technically" crown crates are locked until you unlock them with crown . You can't just reach in and open them for free . There locked behind a paywall . Technically technical talking of course .
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    "Random is fun"

    - Rich Lambert regarding token system for MSA/ pve
    Noricum/ Kitesquad/ PC/EU

    Kitesquad Vol. 1

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=6tGxK9KRrEI
  • Elsonso
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    "You know you don't have to be here, right?"

    Yeah, I think this is right up there near the top, for me.
    XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    Believe me that's not me putting you in a corner :wink:

    The thing is, had they said "definitely not" then that's a concrete answer. If you say "I have no plans ..." then that leaves wiggle room. For example, I had no plans to be ill this week. However I've been sick for 3 days now with some kind of cold like virus.

    No plans is not a concrete no.

    I'll be sure to bring my lawyer next time I casually read gaming sub Reddit .

    Oh come on let's not be so formal. Life is filled with technicalities. It's what makes life so unpredictable! :smile:

    I prefer people's yes to mean yes and no's to mean no . All other English was written by liars .

    I get that, I truly do. But the world isn't just black and white, yes or no, good and evil, there's a whole spectrum of grey areas between.

    Because plans change, life takes a different course, not everything is able to be concrete. Go out and enjoy the middle ground sometime. I find these days there's far too much inflexibility and you have to be either a yes or a no. With us or against us. That kind of thing.

    But I digress, we do seem to have gotten off topic a little!

    I agree we are off topic . My parents raised me different from a lot of people . Very spiritual background both of them . My father said these things . He hated contracts too . Said they were made by liars to protect liars from other liars . Good men don't need contracts ...

    Anyways back to dev quotes .

    People misunderstand the difference between contracts and contract law. People can put whatever they want in a contract. It doesn't mean any of it is enforceable. In fact, consumer contracts often have very little that's enforceable.

    In any case, the thread people are pointing to is not anything to do with contracts, and would involve consumer law. Your immediate understanding of the discussion would almost surely be the one applied in a deceptive practices case. And "we have no plans" won't save them for much the same reason.

    You wonder why devs almost never post in forums? Wonder no more.







  • Armitas
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    "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened to the DK." - ~[Nick Konkle]
    Edited by Armitas on December 7, 2016 9:08PM
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
    We have no plans of introducing gambling boxes .

    They said "RNG lockboxes."

    TECHNICALLY they aren't lockboxes ;)

    But they did introduce RNG boxes . Am I really getting put in a corner over semantics ?

    No, but then is it really fair to expect everyone to be held to things they said a year ago? Unless anyone can prove that they lied, and that they actually did have such plans a year ago, then - like all such quotes - it's a non-story.

    The problem here is reliance. People order their affairs in reliance on what other people say. From that viewpoint, it's perfectly fair to hold corporations to what they advertise. This doesn't mean they can't change their minds. However, at the point they are seriously considering going a different route, they need to tell their customers.

    That may have been the case here, they certainly advertised the boxes well in advance of the release.
    Edited by Wreuntzylla on December 7, 2016 9:39PM
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Lag free megaserver or something similar...

    There are other classical bs lying statements too, but really cba
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
    LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

    Guild Master of The Bringers Of The Storm.
    Harrods


    Member Of The Old Guard
    PC Closed Betas 2013

    PC Mastah Race

    Anook Page anook.com/shadow2kk

    Been playing since Beta and Early Access

  • FortheloveofKrist
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    When Lambert said to someone whining on the forums...

    "You know you don't have to be here."

    Thanks, Rich! I took your advice and stopped playing the game!

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