Root cool down

ixprodiigy2

I mean what the *** how has this not been added yet

tplink3r1

Not an argument.

ixprodiigy2

Don't really need one. This game has become harder and harder to counter play people to the point that root spamming in a viable strategy if there was a cool down you would at least have to use it at the right time. But how can any magic build counter it if never ends

tplink3r1

ixprodiigy2 wrote: »

Don't really need one. This game has become harder and harder to counter play people to the point that root spamming in a viable strategy if there was a cool down you would at least have to use it at the right time. But how can any magic build counter it if never ends

Also not an argument.
try again.

Waffennacht

Magicka can use it's own roots, magicka can kite. If you're magicka then you should be the one rooting and hope it doesn't get a cool down

FriedEggSandwich

ixprodiigy2 wrote: »

Don't really need one. This game has become harder and harder to counter play people to the point that root spamming in a viable strategy if there was a cool down you would at least have to use it at the right time. But how can any magic build counter it if never ends

Streak is actually a good counter to root spam. Shame about the cost. Magicka builds also have access to melee denial skills such as the destro ulti. Not sure about a cooldown but a short period of root immunity would be nice if you spend stamina rolling out of one.

Twohothardware

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

ixprodiigy2 wrote: »

Don't really need one. This game has become harder and harder to counter play people to the point that root spamming in a viable strategy if there was a cool down you would at least have to use it at the right time. But how can any magic build counter it if never ends

Streak is actually a good counter to root spam. Shame about the cost. Magicka builds also have access to melee denial skills such as the destro ulti. Not sure about a cooldown but a short period of root immunity would be nice if you spend stamina rolling out of one.

The cost to Streak needs to be reduced or other similar abilities need to have the same type of increased costs if you use the ability again within so many seconds. A Nightblade can just keep using Shadow Cloak to remain invisible almost indefinitely but a Sorcerer streaks two or three times and their out of Magicka.

Waffennacht

Twohothardware wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

ixprodiigy2 wrote: »

Don't really need one. This game has become harder and harder to counter play people to the point that root spamming in a viable strategy if there was a cool down you would at least have to use it at the right time. But how can any magic build counter it if never ends

Streak is actually a good counter to root spam. Shame about the cost. Magicka builds also have access to melee denial skills such as the destro ulti. Not sure about a cooldown but a short period of root immunity would be nice if you spend stamina rolling out of one.

The cost to Streak needs to be reduced or other similar abilities need to have the same type of increased costs if you use the ability again within so many seconds. A Nightblade can just keep using Shadow Cloak to remain invisible almost indefinitely but a Sorcerer streaks two or three times and their out of Magicka.

That's like, straight outta a year and a half ago. Yeah we sorcs been on the receiving end of nerfs for a while.

acw37162

Aren't all spammable roots magica skills.

I can't think of single spammable root that is stamina.

DKsUnite

acw37162 wrote: »

Aren't all spammable roots magica skills.

I can't think of single spammable root that is stamina.

they cost a *** ton aswell..

Bandit1215

I don't think the issue is one player spamming roots, it's when zergs are fighting and you suddenly can't move because you have 8 different roots being applied by either skills or multiple stam builds gap closing at the same time. The pain comes in when your character just stops moving, then you get hit with 8 crit rushes at once and die instantly.

FriedEggSandwich

acw37162 wrote: »

Aren't all spammable roots magica skills.

I can't think of single spammable root that is stamina.

Bombard?

lolo_01b16_ESO

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

Aren't all spammable roots magica skills.

I can't think of single spammable root that is stamina.

Bombard?

The root effect of bombard has a cooldown. Spamming it will not keep players perma rooted.

FriedEggSandwich

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

Aren't all spammable roots magica skills.

I can't think of single spammable root that is stamina.

Bombard?

The root effect of bombard has a cooldown. Spamming it will not keep players perma rooted.

Noted thanks. I've never played stam but I pick up bits of information.

GreenSoup2HoT

Bombard used to be perma-root. Its about time talons and encase got the same treatment. Its not like what happend to Bombard really fixed anything though... you still get snared 24/7 now.

lucky_Sage

there is a problem with roots but before this last update barely anyone cared cause there was like no magdk. now they have burst cause BsW and Skoria. but all proc sets hit as hard as ults do skoria hits just as hard as meteor same with all the other viper and other monster sets and then viper.

MagDK's with out talons is no DK we wouldn't be able to do anything but waste stam trying to sprint and cause all classes with mobility and lose to a Magplar who has burst heals and way better sustain.

lucky_Sage

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

Aren't all spammable roots magica skills.

I can't think of single spammable root that is stamina.

Bombard?

trap beast gets spammed all the time

Rohamad_Ali

Break free is broken and roots are bugged . I made a bug report thread about it but no word from ZOS . Spamming roots will hold someone down even after break free sometimes .

Didaco

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Break free is broken and roots are bugged . I made a bug report thread about it but no word from ZOS . Spamming roots will hold someone down even after break free sometimes .

Wait, wasn't this intended?

Roots are not considered CC.

AAbrigo

Roots is the only thing stopping me from killing everybody. If they dont use it they will get exposed!

Feel sorry for them actually.

psychotic13

You can dodge roll out of a root, not sure why stamina players complaining you guys and roll dodge forever. Once a Magicka player has cc broke then gets rooted it's normally GG.

Vythri

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Break free is broken and roots are bugged . I made a bug report thread about it but no word from ZOS . Spamming roots will hold someone down even after break free sometimes .

...you dodge roll out of roots, not break free. It's been like that since the start of the game.

strikeback1247

psychotic13 wrote: »

You can dodge roll out of a root, not sure why stamina players complaining you guys and roll dodge forever. Once a Magicka player has cc broke then gets rooted it's normally GG.

Please show me how to roll dodge forever.

lucky_Sage

you can also just heavy attack and turn around so you don't have to break free

Docmandu

lucky_Sage wrote: »

you can also just heavy attack and turn around so you don't have to break free

Ever tried to jabs a DK spamming talons?!

Anyway talons/encase are annoying... but I can live with those... the gap closer snares are what annoy me the most.. it was ***'ed up when it was a full root, but changing it to a unbreakable snare was NOT the solution... there shouldn't be a snare/root on gapclose, ZOS just needs to send some coders to coding camp so they can code up a proper solution instead of their typical band-aid patching.

Xvorg

strikeback1247 wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

You can dodge roll out of a root, not sure why stamina players complaining you guys and roll dodge forever. Once a Magicka player has cc broke then gets rooted it's normally GG.

Please show me how to roll dodge forever.

well fitted 7 pieces + CPs green star Tumbling + shuffle and a skill that increases stam recovery.

Only channeled attacks will hit you.

DeHei

guys really??
Stamina player want a nerf for something? The only option to stay with light armor in pvp is with root spamming skills and kiting or playing with sorcerer.. i dont see a discussion where magicka player want a nerf for all nightblades with medium armor, which are able to gank everyone before the dotsets were trendy...

And streak surely dont need less costs or a buff... the half of my single target skills ends with "missed" ...

lucky_Sage

Docmandu wrote: »

lucky_Sage wrote: »

you can also just heavy attack and turn around so you don't have to break free

Ever tried to jabs a DK spamming talons?!

Anyway talons/encase are annoying... but I can live with those... the gap closer snares are what annoy me the most.. it was ***'ed up when it was a full root, but changing it to a unbreakable snare was NOT the solution... there shouldn't be a snare/root on gapclose, ZOS just needs to send some coders to coding camp so they can code up a proper solution instead of their typical band-aid patching.

that's Templars fault for spamming and not paying attention

strikeback1247

Xvorg wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

You can dodge roll out of a root, not sure why stamina players complaining you guys and roll dodge forever. Once a Magicka player has cc broke then gets rooted it's normally GG.

Please show me how to roll dodge forever.

well fitted 7 pieces + CPs green star Tumbling + shuffle and a skill that increases stam recovery.

Only channeled attacks will hit you.

still won't be able to dodge roll forever :^)

FriedEggSandwich

DeHei wrote: »

guys really??
Stamina player want a nerf for something? The only option to stay with light armor in pvp is with root spamming skills and kiting or playing with sorcerer.. i dont see a discussion where magicka player want a nerf for all nightblades with medium armor, which are able to gank everyone before the dotsets were trendy...

And streak surely dont need less costs or a buff... the half of my single target skills ends with "missed" ...

Streak doesn't provide minor or major evasion so won't cause skills to miss. Streak is the sorc teleport. It does need to cost less when you're using it offensively in my opinion, the cost increase was introduced because people cried about sorcs escaping too easily. Well if you're using it to stun your opponent or reposition from a melee assault why should it still cost so much? Gap closers don't have the same cost increase applied and can just be spammed.

acw37162

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

Aren't all spammable roots magica skills.

I can't think of single spammable root that is stamina.

Bombard?

Yep and trap but it's one target