Magic templar

Dk_needs_a_buff

Hey guys need some helpm why is my magplar so weak and pathetic in pvp. I have 5 kagranacs 3 willpower and 4 magnus. Eavrything is yellow.

5 heavy 1 lighy and 1 medium

I have no survivability. No damage and no sustain really. 33k max magic . 2.1k regen and 2.4k spell dmg unbuffed

Any help. Thanks

lolo_01b16_ESO

Do you play solo or in a group?
What exactly kills you? Do you run out of stamina before you die?
What skills do you use?
How much hp do you have?

AzuraKin

dont forget impen, resist, cp resistance buffs.

LeifErickson

Those seem like really solid stats to me. What are you running for skills? Also your max magicka seems a little bit low. What kind of food are you running?

Dk_needs_a_buff

What kills me? Anyone 400cp and above bo matter what class they are. I do very little damage.i just cant survive i take to much famage and cant dish it back out. Im using max health and magic regen food. I have impen on eavrything.

Sword and shield
Breath of life
Ritual of retribution
Degeneration
Blazing spear
Elusive mist
Healing ult

Duel wield
Inner light
Toppling charge
Dark flare
Puncturing sweeps
Radiant glory

Bat swarm

Dk_needs_a_buff

Max health is only 2ek. No idea how in heavy

Dk_needs_a_buff

When theyr in medium or light gear i still barely hurt them

LeifErickson

You should try using channeled focus. It will help a lot with sustain.

Dk_needs_a_buff

LeifErickson wrote: »

You should try using channeled focus. It will help a lot with sustain.

Ive almost unlocked it then i will. But qhy am i doing no damage?

Dk_needs_a_buff

And my crit is also very low

BurritoESO

L2P

Minno

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

You should try using channeled focus. It will help a lot with sustain.

Ive almost unlocked it then i will. But qhy am i doing no damage?

What's your spell penetration?
What's on your skill bars?
What's your CP rank?

What is your CP setup?

Sandman929

I don't really see any glaring problems with the gear, but maybe a couple with the bars (not necessarily problems, but suggestions).
Channeled Focus, definitely for the major wards and resources.
Radiant Magelight over Inner Light to reduce the damage from stealth attacks.
Meteor over Batswarm.
I'd probably move Dark Flare to the S&B bar replacing Blazing Spear and put Aurora Javelin in it's spot on the DW bar.

That stuffs really just preference rather than problems though. If you find that you're losing to stacked stam proc sets...well, welcome to the club.

Sandman929

You could replace those 4 Magnus with 2 Kena and 2 (anything that's 2 piece regen, Seducer being the first that comes to mind). Kena is a nice controllable damage boost but you've got to watch your resources and weaving in some heavy attacks when it procs.

CatchMeTrolling

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

Sandman929

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

How is your spell damage with that high magicka on a Templar? I've been playing around with max stats over spell/weap damage builds and it seems like I get near the same tooltip values stacking either one, but I haven't tried it on a Templar yet.

Dk_needs_a_buff

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

What sets do you use?

Sheuib

I use soulshine heavy chest, pants, and jewelry. Spinners light hands, feet, belt, and duel wield or sword and board on the other bar. Traits are all impen with defending on the swords. Valkyn Skoria light two piece with infused on the head and divines on the shoulders. All magicka enchants with the exception of the head, chest, and legs that have prism enchants. All items are gold.

DW bar
vampires bane
Dark flare
structured entropy
radiant glory
puncturing sweeps
ice comet - ult

SB bar
elusive mist
honor the dead
structured entropy
channeled focus
ritual of retribution
spell wall - ult (SB ult)

This build I am able to survive and have good ability to kill. The penetration I get from both the 5 pieces of light and the spinners set allows me to use the defending trait on my swords.

The sets you are using are good crafted sets but you should be using those to farm some better drop sets. Also, as a templar that is running duel wield and sword and board you should be running two 5 piece sets and a monster set. Try to have heavy chest and legs with the rest light.

I also run the max health and magicka regen food. The tri potion I use is detect/immovable/magicka regen.

fully buffed my stats are:
29149 magicka (29854 S&B)
33126 health - in cyrodiil with emp buff
11580 stamina
3197 spell damage - varies on other cyrodiil buffs
29660 spell resist (30090 S&B)
21245 physical resist (21675 S&B)
2138 crit resist (2396 S&B)
1600 magicka regen (Yes this is enough when I use channeled focus and pots)

Akinos

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

Hey guys need some helpm why is my magplar so weak and pathetic in pvp. I have 5 kagranacs 3 willpower and 4 magnus. Eavrything is yellow.

5 heavy 1 lighy and 1 medium

I have no survivability. No damage and no sustain really. 33k max magic . 2.1k regen and 2.4k spell dmg unbuffed

Any help. Thanks

Trolololollllllllll

Lexxypwns

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/301766/video-crescents-magicka-templar-build-soul-jabber-one-tamriel-update-12

best magplar solo build right now, some folks will say lich is better than spinners in this setup, but lich is overkill for sustain, as long as you place your rune right you won't have any issues.

@akinos also has an AMAZING templar build, I struggled with it solo, but I'm not the caliber of player that he is. In a small group, I was able to do ridiculous things, things that didn't seem possible. His build is linked in his sig posted above me.


BSW is under rated for templars, its just so stupid hard to farm, I still don't have all my jewels so I have to run janky setups with it

DHale

Easy: Magic < every stam build
Magplar is not a strong solo build or class.
Magic regen less than stam regen you will run out of magic before any stam build runs out of stam.
Magic regen comes from lich which is not heavy.

Magplar is great in groups as long as you have sword and board and vamp for elusive mist. Btw I have over 3 k hours on a magplar.

Akinos

Lexxypwns wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/301766/video-crescents-magicka-templar-build-soul-jabber-one-tamriel-update-12

best magplar solo build right now, some folks will say lich is better than spinners in this setup, but lich is overkill for sustain, as long as you place your rune right you won't have any issues.

@akinos also has an AMAZING templar build, I struggled with it solo, but I'm not the caliber of player that he is. In a small group, I was able to do ridiculous things, things that didn't seem possible. His build is linked in his sig posted above me.


BSW is under rated for templars, its just so stupid hard to farm, I still don't have all my jewels so I have to run janky setups with it

Hey thanks for mentioning me @Lexxypwns . I'm fairly certain this is a troll thread, guy is saying he has no sustain and damage with those stats. If it's not a troll thread then I apologize.

Also, I came up with a better version of the build in my sig, not sure If i'm gonna make a guide or video about it now though. ><

Lexxypwns

DHale wrote: »

Easy: Magic < every stam build
Magplar is not a strong solo build or class.
Magic regen less than stam regen you will run out of magic before any stam build runs out of stam.
Magic regen comes from lich which is not heavy.

Magplar is great in groups as long as you have sword and board and vamp for elusive mist. Btw I have over 3 k hours on a magplar.

You're crazy and playing it wrong. I don't even need snb anymore, mist form, bol, and ritual are plenty of survivability, focus + witchmothers brew is enough sustain, just build all damage and run thief stone GG.

White wabbit

Can't make out if this is a troll post

CatchMeTrolling

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

How is your spell damage with that high magicka on a Templar? I've been playing around with max stats over spell/weap damage builds and it seems like I get near the same tooltip values stacking either one, but I haven't tried it on a Templar yet.

About 2300 unbuffed with sword and board, never really was into stacking spell damage on a magplar unless you're emp.

Sandman929

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

How is your spell damage with that high magicka on a Templar? I've been playing around with max stats over spell/weap damage builds and it seems like I get near the same tooltip values stacking either one, but I haven't tried it on a Templar yet.

About 2300 unbuffed with sword and board, never really was into stacking spell damage on a magplar unless you're emp.

Interesting, thanks.

CatchMeTrolling

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

How is your spell damage with that high magicka on a Templar? I've been playing around with max stats over spell/weap damage builds and it seems like I get near the same tooltip values stacking either one, but I haven't tried it on a Templar yet.

About 2300 unbuffed with sword and board, never really was into stacking spell damage on a magplar unless you're emp.

Interesting, thanks.

That's also with only 2 spell damage glyphs and one recovery.

Lexxypwns

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

How is your spell damage with that high magicka on a Templar? I've been playing around with max stats over spell/weap damage builds and it seems like I get near the same tooltip values stacking either one, but I haven't tried it on a Templar yet.

About 2300 unbuffed with sword and board, never really was into stacking spell damage on a magplar unless you're emp.

Interesting, thanks.

That's also with only 2 spell damage glyphs and one recovery.

I'm sorry, but are you unaware that BoL and Radiant destruction have much, much higher scaling off spell damage than off magika? They possess 2 of the highest spell damage coefficients in the game. Therefore, advising magplars to stack magika over damage is actually bad advice since you weaken your healing and execute. 36-38k seems to be a good number if you don't run inner light, you'll want to top out at more than 3200 spell damage, buffed, in combat.

edit: If you're talking about building to increase the size of harness or dampen then that's a niche build for sure and likely to be less effective by result.

CatchMeTrolling

Lexxypwns wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Your max is incredibly low, I have 43k on mine. I would recommend raising that as a start. Max increases damage, healing and shields, plus you'll obviously be able to cast a few more spells.

BTW I wouldn't use Max health/regen food, would use tri stat food. If you must go that route there's food that increases Max health, magicka and gives regen.

How is your spell damage with that high magicka on a Templar? I've been playing around with max stats over spell/weap damage builds and it seems like I get near the same tooltip values stacking either one, but I haven't tried it on a Templar yet.

About 2300 unbuffed with sword and board, never really was into stacking spell damage on a magplar unless you're emp.

Interesting, thanks.

That's also with only 2 spell damage glyphs and one recovery.

I'm sorry, but are you unaware that BoL and Radiant destruction have much, much higher scaling off spell damage than off magika? They possess 2 of the highest spell damage coefficients in the game. Therefore, advising magplars to stack magika over damage is actually bad advice since you weaken your healing and execute. 36-38k seems to be a good number if you don't run inner light, you'll want to top out at more than 3200 spell damage, buffed, in combat.

edit: If you're talking about building to increase the size of harness or dampen then that's a niche build for sure and likely to be less effective by result.

Lol.

geonsocal

@Dk_needs_a_buff ...I would get rid of at least one of those melee weapons...they're fine for pve, but, death in pvp for magic users...you really need a stave...

if you're a magic user in cyro - ya got to make sure to keep a meat shield (friendly players) in front of you...

also, while you're out there fighting - keep a close eye on everyone's health bar, as soon as you see someone slip below 50% or so, focus your ranged attacks on them...

you should be wearing at least 5 light if you want to kill with magic...

oh yeah, if you're trolling us - i hope you have all procs on your death recaps for at least a month

Edit: after re-reading your initial post and seeing "yellow" gear and 2.4k unbuffered spell damage - i'm leaning heavily towards troll post...c'mon now - fess up...

geonsocal

@Dk_needs_a_buff ...

yikes...1 star and 33 points in about 9 months on the forums...

I'll tell ya what - since I personally don't really get the whole concept and purpose behind troll posts...explain it to me and I promise to make sure you get bumped up to that second star...