Yes we can!... make Eclipse great again.

tinythinker

Double the damage for Total Dark, add that if broken out of early the damage is still taken, keep the nice heal.

Make Unstable Core single target, up the damage by 40-50%, target is stunned for two seconds and takes that damage immediately when attempting to use a gap closer.

I've tried every version of these skills in PvP and PvE, they've gotten worse over time, but I like them. Or the concept they started with. Let's make them fun and more broadly useful.

threefarms

I've never used that ability

spencer2361

Do something with them, about as useful as snakeblood or whatever that alchemy skill is

tinythinker

threefarms wrote: »

I've never used that ability

Not surprised

It was a fun reflect. You put targets in a dark bubble and all spells were reflected back at them. Then bosses were made immune. Then it was reduced to one target. Then one morph was changed to heal you for each reflect, and the other eventually lost the bubble and became a weak version of Velocious Curse that could hit multiple targets. The bubble morph now works against any projectile.

The problem with the bubble is that you can CC break it for no penalty, so anyone except a player who has never seen the skill before will break it before using a projectile. If the damage was greater and detonated upon CC break, it would be more of choice. And adding a stun against gap-closers to the non-bubble version still leaves it doing damage for PvE but now gives a great use for PvP.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

This ability was actually pretty good back when projectiles could be reflected twice. You could fire a projectile at a DK, then cast eclipse right as he was casting wings and it would sent the dark flare back to him.

Also you could cast it on an entire zerg, it would reflect all their spells and still explode. Of all the templar skills to get nerfed, this poor ability got the worst of it and it was never OP to begin with.

tinythinker

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

This ability was actually pretty good back when projectiles could be reflected twice. You could fire a projectile at a DK, then cast eclipse right as he was casting wings and it would sent the dark flare back to him.

Also you could cast it on an entire zerg, it would reflect all their spells and still explode. Of all the templar skills to get nerfed, this poor ability got the worst of it and it was never OP to begin with.

Yeah it was fun once. I'm looking at what it can do now. I would love for Unstable to blow up/stun when target tries to use a gap closer. I doubt it will go back to how it was before.

ArchMikem

threefarms wrote: »

I've never used that ability

Eclipse is actually really useful against the Guards at a Keep Resource. Most of their attacks are projectiles so it's handy when taking it by yourself. Even if it only does affect one of them that's still one less volley of damage coming at you.

FrostFallFox

Imagine if the spell could contain an enemy's Eye of The Storm and destroy themselves

dem0n1k

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Imagine if the spell could contain an enemy's Eye of The Storm and destroy themselves

That would be awesome! They get 2 secs to purge (the delay from Eye of the Storm) or the sphere captures all the damage & they come out all black & toasty

ArchMikem

dem0n1k wrote: »

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Imagine if the spell could contain an enemy's Eye of The Storm and destroy themselves

That would be awesome! They get 2 secs to purge (the delay from Eye of the Storm) or the sphere captures all the damage & they come out all black & toasty

My Sorc doesn't have a Purge. If that happened to me my incredibly expensive Ult would be turn me into a Suicide Bomber that didn't hurt anyone else besides myself...

AzuraKin

i rmember when i was learning templar, fought this one boss kept killing me so i put total dark on bar and just kept that on her, got her to 70% health and then she just died.

ArchMikem

AzuraKin wrote: »

i rmember when i was learning templar, fought this one boss kept killing me so i put total dark on bar and just kept that on her, got her to 70% health and then she just died.

Ooh the morph heals you too? I need to use this...

AzuraKin

ArchMikem wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

i rmember when i was learning templar, fought this one boss kept killing me so i put total dark on bar and just kept that on her, got her to 70% health and then she just died.

Ooh the morph heals you too? I need to use this...

it only reflects projectiles so very situational use.

dem0n1k

ArchMikem wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Imagine if the spell could contain an enemy's Eye of The Storm and destroy themselves

That would be awesome! They get 2 secs to purge (the delay from Eye of the Storm) or the sphere captures all the damage & they come out all black & toasty

My Sorc doesn't have a Purge. If that happened to me my incredibly expensive Ult would be turn me into a Suicide Bomber that didn't hurt anyone else besides myself...

You gotta run fast to the nearest friendly healer... PLZ HALP!
I dunno how you get by with no purge in Cyrodiil.... coldfire siege kills me so quickly without purge.!

sneakymitchell

Wish the DKs morph of reflective plate be reflecting two more projectiles and adds 2 more secs but players want some minor ward that gives u 2% mitigation either way can be penetrated with weapons and such. It would be better cause if fighting melee people u can have that up to increase healing received in draconic powers.

Wolfchild07

Unstable Core takes too long to explode due to the passive that increases duration. It should reduce the duration of that spell instead.