Buff Restro ulti

silky_soft

Make it pulse to all targets, even 5, in a radius and always yourself. Instantly useful.

Joy_Division wrote: »

Before people try to sound smarter than everyone else in the room, let's be specific.

This ultimate is only good if you pick the Panacea morph and:

• You are *not* a healer, rather a solo player
• The heal actually lands on you. Someone asked why they dont see this often in Cyrodiil. The third time a PUG steals your heal will make you want to throw your computer out the window. An actual dual is something very different from open world Cyrodiil
• This is incredibly inefficient for an actual healer: it overheals a single target for 100 ultimate and does nothing for your group.
• There is no guarantee the user will even survive with this ultimate: I got killed in vMA with it active where the heal is not cut in half by Battlesprit. If anything, I would argue the sword and shield in noticeably better because it actually lands on you (most important), reflects all enemy projectiles, prevents most stuns, and the amount mitigated is not reduced by Battlespirt whereas Panacea's heal is.

This is a poorly designed ultimate: not offering much for the people most apt to use a restoration staff in group play (healers) and unreliable in the one specific instance where it can potentially shine (solo) because there is no guarantee some PUG wont steal your ultimate. It is way too situational and very disappointing for healers looking to use something else besides Warhorn.

acw37162

It's instantly useful right now

Strider_Roshin

It's actually kind of OP right now. I think it needs a cost increase if anything. I use it on my templar, and it's just stupid powerful.

lolo_01b16_ESO

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

Strider_Roshin

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

I use it in dueling with my templar. I keep it on my back bar, and I DW with my front. What I typically do is wait for my opponent to use their ultimate, then I use the resto ult. The reason I do those is because people typically make themselves more vulnerable after using their ult because they're going on the offensive. Therefore use your resto ult at that time to make yourself un-killable while at the same time giving you a huge boost in damage. Definitely recommend keeping your opponent DoTed with Vampires bane for the extra crit chance, and spell damage. The only thing that makes this move OP is it's cost. Other than that it's fine.

Thealteregoroman

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

It's actually kind of OP right now. I think it needs a cost increase if anything. I use it on my templar, and it's just stupid powerful.

How examples please........

Strider_Roshin

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

It's actually kind of OP right now. I think it needs a cost increase if anything. I use it on my templar, and it's just stupid powerful.

How examples please........

Just did

SanTii.92

it's really powerful on 1vX or small scale

Thealteregoroman

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

It's actually kind of OP right now. I think it needs a cost increase if anything. I use it on my templar, and it's just stupid powerful.

How examples please........

Just did

thanks!

lolo_01b16_ESO

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

I use it in dueling with my templar. I keep it on my back bar, and I DW with my front. What I typically do is wait for my opponent to use their ultimate, then I use the resto ult. The reason I do those is because people typically make themselves more vulnerable after using their ult because they're going on the offensive. Therefore use your resto ult at that time to make yourself un-killable while at the same time giving you a huge boost in damage. Definitely recommend keeping your opponent DoTed with Vampires bane for the extra crit chance, and spell damage. The only thing that makes this move OP is it's cost. Other than that it's fine.

Yeah, in that situation it sounds good. So far I was only looking at it from a group pov (as alternative for warhorn / barrier) and was quite disappointed when I saw, that it targets only one player.

Strider_Roshin

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

I use it in dueling with my templar. I keep it on my back bar, and I DW with my front. What I typically do is wait for my opponent to use their ultimate, then I use the resto ult. The reason I do those is because people typically make themselves more vulnerable after using their ult because they're going on the offensive. Therefore use your resto ult at that time to make yourself un-killable while at the same time giving you a huge boost in damage. Definitely recommend keeping your opponent DoTed with Vampires bane for the extra crit chance, and spell damage. The only thing that makes this move OP is it's cost. Other than that it's fine.

Yeah, in that situation it sounds good. So far I was only looking at it from a group pov (as alternative for warhorn / barrier) and was quite disappointed when I saw, that it targets only one player.

Yeah in that context it's just better to have people alternate warhorn.

icontrive

This might just be me but I've never seen anyone use the resto ulti in cyrodill.

Strider_Roshin

icontrive wrote: »

This might just be me but I've never seen anyone use the resto ulti in cyrodill.

It's hard to notice since it doesn't show on your death recap ;-)

icontrive

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

icontrive wrote: »

This might just be me but I've never seen anyone use the resto ulti in cyrodill.

It's hard to notice since it doesn't show on your death recap ;-)

Good point. The lag prevents many animations from showing too so that might be why

acw37162

The morph that cast all your restoration abilities for free is extremely useful in group content.

The other morph is ridiculously good in PVP, 5 seconds almost un-killable excellent offensive buffs.

Both morphs are ridiculously cheap.

Calboy

Resto ulti > destro ulti.

silky_soft

Sure for duals it's good. But where else? Yea until 1 friendly or pet gets near you and it becomes useless.

Making it a radius and casting on yourself won't make any change to duals. Will actually make it useful in pvp where it doesn't hit some random pet or something. You'll also have to position yourself better. Just limit it to yourself +5 in your radius.

silky_soft

Calboy wrote: »

Resto ulti > destro ulti.

eots tics for 10k+ in pvp plus procs vd.

Rawst

I can see the usefulness in dueling, but it was kinda underwhelming for me in 4-man dungeons. The cost is very low, that's cool, but I'm still going with the ulti from the Restoring Light line, even after getting Life Giver.

sneakymitchell

Like come now the morphs of it are pretty powerful. It's just like the one hand shield ultimate pretty much.

Calboy

silky_soft wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

Resto ulti > destro ulti.

eots tics for 10k+ in pvp plus procs vd.

Rubbish it ticks for 10k plus.

RedReaver

The restoration ultimate Champion's Light can give the major protection and force buff for 10 seconds to at least 4 players for 100 ultimate afaik.
The only reason it is lesser than Warhorn in PvE is because if the players you heal take no damage during the ultimate, they don't get the buff at all. I like having it slotted though because during phases like the poisoned air in Darkshade Caverns II last boss, it will buff everybody for the full 10 seconds.

silky_soft

10k,
(Pause



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Plus procs vd

All you need is a dark elf magblade with reapers mark proc, fire destro+vd+spinner full divines and spell damage+100 mag damage+87crit+shadow. Crit cloak and magelight before cast.

But this is about making Restro more useful support on the only true support weapon skill line.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

I use it in dueling with my templar. I keep it on my back bar, and I DW with my front. What I typically do is wait for my opponent to use their ultimate, then I use the resto ult. The reason I do those is because people typically make themselves more vulnerable after using their ult because they're going on the offensive. Therefore use your resto ult at that time to make yourself un-killable while at the same time giving you a huge boost in damage. Definitely recommend keeping your opponent DoTed with Vampires bane for the extra crit chance, and spell damage. The only thing that makes this move OP is it's cost. Other than that it's fine.

Yeah, in that situation it sounds good. So far I was only looking at it from a group pov (as alternative for warhorn / barrier) and was quite disappointed when I saw, that it targets only one player.

It targets one player at a time but every tick can hit a different player, so you can hit everyone in a 4 player group. it has its uses, I think. Good for non temps.

silky_soft

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

I use it in dueling with my templar. I keep it on my back bar, and I DW with my front. What I typically do is wait for my opponent to use their ultimate, then I use the resto ult. The reason I do those is because people typically make themselves more vulnerable after using their ult because they're going on the offensive. Therefore use your resto ult at that time to make yourself un-killable while at the same time giving you a huge boost in damage. Definitely recommend keeping your opponent DoTed with Vampires bane for the extra crit chance, and spell damage. The only thing that makes this move OP is it's cost. Other than that it's fine.

Yeah, in that situation it sounds good. So far I was only looking at it from a group pov (as alternative for warhorn / barrier) and was quite disappointed when I saw, that it targets only one player.

It targets one player at a time but every tick can hit a different player, so you can hit everyone in a 4 player group. it has its uses, I think. Good for non temps.

Can hit the same player or npc twice. Why not just have a radius. That heals 5 people.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

silky_soft wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

I use it in dueling with my templar. I keep it on my back bar, and I DW with my front. What I typically do is wait for my opponent to use their ultimate, then I use the resto ult. The reason I do those is because people typically make themselves more vulnerable after using their ult because they're going on the offensive. Therefore use your resto ult at that time to make yourself un-killable while at the same time giving you a huge boost in damage. Definitely recommend keeping your opponent DoTed with Vampires bane for the extra crit chance, and spell damage. The only thing that makes this move OP is it's cost. Other than that it's fine.

Yeah, in that situation it sounds good. So far I was only looking at it from a group pov (as alternative for warhorn / barrier) and was quite disappointed when I saw, that it targets only one player.

It targets one player at a time but every tick can hit a different player, so you can hit everyone in a 4 player group. it has its uses, I think. Good for non temps.

Can hit the same player or npc twice. Why not just have a radius. That heals 5 people.

Yes it can hit the same player more then once but as far as I know, it also smart heals, so the person with the lowest health is going to get hit, like every other heal in the game. Unless you are trying to prebuff everyone with lights champion, in which case just use warhirn, it does its job nicely.

deevoh1991

Do not buff
Do not Nerf

It is perfect and the only RELIABLE healing method if you are not a temp and choose to be a healer.

silky_soft

Not when I was testing it. Would be random target. Maybe it's the lag in pvp that puts it out.

Cinbri

It is weak in open world but strong in 1v1, however even in duels it mean you waste your ult points for defense, not offense and thus it is like making some sacrifice to counter enemy's burst. No need to further nor buffs nor nerfs, at least Light's Champion morph.

idk

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

@Strider_Roshin In which situation? 1vX pvp?

I use it in dueling with my templar. I keep it on my back bar, and I DW with my front. What I typically do is wait for my opponent to use their ultimate, then I use the resto ult. The reason I do those is because people typically make themselves more vulnerable after using their ult because they're going on the offensive. Therefore use your resto ult at that time to make yourself un-killable while at the same time giving you a huge boost in damage. Definitely recommend keeping your opponent DoTed with Vampires bane for the extra crit chance, and spell damage. The only thing that makes this move OP is it's cost. Other than that it's fine.

Wow, for sure it is OP. nerf it.

Seriously, the one singular good use for this otherwise useless ultimate.

Izaki

silky_soft wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

Resto ulti > destro ulti.

eots tics for 10k+ in pvp plus procs vd.

Everything that kills proc's VD. And Light's Champion reduced the damage done by 30% as well as heals you. So resto ultimate > destro ultimate. You can just sit around in his Eye of Flame no problem while beating on him with a 30% crit damage increase. Hello 20k frags.