Few Counters to Beams

Johngo0036

Is soul strike not uninterruptible anymore,

I use venom arrow on my bow against radiant destruction spamming templars,
works wonders,

Enslaved

Venom arrow is so underestimated that its amazing.

Dymence

Makes thread about not having a counter

Says it can be blocked

What?

Osteos

most templars look surprised when you interrupt them. I think most players cringe and try to runaway instead of attacking. Now if a bunch are beaming you well rip

SanderBuraas

Dymence wrote: »

Makes thread about not having a counter

Says it can be blocked

What?

When did I ever state that beams had no counter? Read the thread properly and try to understand the point of it.

Mojmir

Smepic wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Makes thread about not having a counter

Says it can be blocked

What?

When did I ever state that beams had no counter? Read the thread properly and try to understand the point of it.

In the title of the thread maybe? Lol

WillhelmBlack

It hurts when you're being zerged but not as much as Jesus Beam if you're less than 50% health. Which I find incredible, a true Wrobel special.

Skullz11c

NBrookus wrote: »

Smepic wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Please do explain what is so unbearable about the thread.

LeeroyGankins wrote: »

bruh u need to git gud

If you wish to duel, I am happy to oblige.

acw37162 wrote: »

Shields

Line of sight

Block (provided you have stamina)

Three counters.

Read the thread again. By shields, do you mean damage shields? You need at least four Hardened Wards to negate the damage, not to mention the possibility of dots. Line of sight is irrelevant. Magicka users can not afford to block, especially with the low ultimate cost, and stamina builds need to heal as well as block – which consumes a lot of stamina.

My magicka DK hasn't died to a Soul Assault yet. Block and a couple of igneous shields is all that is needed. Or ducking behind a rock. Soul Assault has the potential to be very powerful when properly timed. Which, IMO, is how a powerful skill should be.

Radiant is a lot more deadly because it can be spammed and the frequency of packs of templars spamming it all over the place hoping someone else gets your health low.

OMG, thank you! Exactly... This is the problem with some of this game's community. As soon as a player runs across a skill or build they do not know how to counter or avoid they scream nerf! So annoying. What everyone has to realize is there are always going to be hard counter classes and skills to the build you are using - deal with it.

I currently run my magicka NB and use this ultimate. Yes, it is strong, but I haven't killed a single "good" player with it. It is a situational skill, if timed properly can certainly do some damage and drain resources, but IMO destructive touch and my spectral bow combo is much more lethal than soul assault. I have dueled numerous stamina characters who have had NO issue dealing with soul assault. In fact, when I face these characters it essentially forces me to use my back bar ultimate as SA has gotten me killed more often than not when fighting high burst stam builds who understand and know how to deal with this ultimate.

As such, like Nbrookus stated - I have yet to kill a Mag DK with this skill as it is so extremely easy for them to mitigate. To that matter, Mag DKs are essentially my builds "anti class" this patch as I have a near zero chance of beating a well played character in a 1 v 1 scenario. Does that mean they need a nerf? No, it means I understand their strengths in regard to my character and play style. However, on my stam sorc, mag DKs seem to have a very hard time surviving my burst. Again, different strengths for different builds and set ups.

I personally have had this skill used against me numerous times and have only died twice, maybe three times to it. The other times, it is very easy for me to los, heal, or apply enough pressure to force them to stop the channel.

If SA is such a pain in your a** then slot skills to directly mitigate it. For example, use bone shield. Once SA starts, spam the shield to mitigate the damage which will not cost nearly as much stamina as simply blocking and continuously roll dodging because you panic. If you're not willing to slot skills to mitigate a skill that kills you then your argument literally has no credible basis for debate.

Paraflex

It's a great ability and helps balance dodge roll spammers keep it as it is...clearly your new here

SanderBuraas

Mojmir wrote: »

Smepic wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Makes thread about not having a counter

Says it can be blocked

What?

When did I ever state that beams had no counter? Read the thread properly and try to understand the point of it.

In the title of the thread maybe? Lol

That is true. Allow me to correct it.

Paraflex wrote: »

It's a great ability and helps balance dodge roll spammers keep it as it is...clearly your new here

New? A quick look at my profile will tell you otherwise. I happen to believe that both beams and roll dodge is too strong.

Egonieser

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

It's been awhile!

Anyway, yes, these things are powerful. I use them frequently. My main characters name is even Yugot The Beam for maximum death recap rage trolling effect. There is no doubt I'm one of the single worst offenders of these crimes across all platforms. Guilty as charged.

That said, good players just laugh them off.

Soul Assault might as well be called "Magic Shotgun Newb Burner". If you die to it, sorry to break it to you, you're not actually good at dueling. I only use it because it's a good way to destroy people who think proc-proc-proc means they are talented.

Radiant Oppression, however, is the single most dominant skill in the entire game when in the right hands. Even then though its main utility is to be a roaming Cyrodiil death cannon. It's not even all that useful in duels because good duelers usually have vigor running (or something similar).

People get bent out of shape about it because the death recaps show a bazillion damage when often a light attack would have killed them. Then there are those who get mad that it starts to scale at 50% even though it mostly tickles until 20%. There are those who don't like it's range, even though archers have more. Lastky there are the guys who say, "but when 4 magplars hit me it's insta-death" which is true but 4 naked players punching you would give the same result.

Let us also not forget that casting it keeps the offender completely open to attacks and draws a bright big line on the battlefield to them screaming KILL THIS GUY FIRST! Let's also not forget that magplars are usually healers so you really don't understand an angry Zerg's full wrath until you've been one. Entire groups will stop what they are doing to kill this one person quite often.

So to summarize: very strong, but not impossible to deal with, and leaves the perpetrator with a huge glowing line right to them for the Zerg to know who to kill first. We also stink in most one on one situations unless you did something stupid allowing me to instantly melt you with two moves after rope-a-doping you into using all your resources.

This guy knows the stuff, couldn't have said it better myself...

KingYogi415

AMadAussie wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Gap close. bash.
Soooo hard.

You can't bash interrupt soul strike or its morphs.
You'd know that if you had a clue or read the OP.
But reading for you is obviously soooo hard.

I hardly see soul strike in game.

I was talking about RD which more people seem to QQ about.

Cheers!

AMadAussie

KingYogi415 wrote: »

AMadAussie wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Gap close. bash.
Soooo hard.

You can't bash interrupt soul strike or its morphs.
You'd know that if you had a clue or read the OP.
But reading for you is obviously soooo hard.

I hardly see soul strike in game.

I was talking about RD which more people seem to QQ about.

Cheers!

Well, now you're informed. ZOS should address it, if only for the sake of consistency with other similar skills.