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How good is flawless dawn breaker? Is it for stam builds

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Op? For stam?

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  • Tryxus
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    BossXV wrote: »
    Op? For stam?

    2nd best: Rend > Flawless DB
    Edited by Tryxus on November 22, 2016 11:14PM
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  • WalksonGraves
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    BossXV wrote: »
    Op? For stam?

    Flawless is the best Ulti for PvE Stam DPS

    Doesn't lacerate do more dmg?
  • Tryxus
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    My bad, edited the first post
    Edited by Tryxus on November 22, 2016 11:33PM
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Tool tip on db. 26k.

    Rend 62k.

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  • Dagoth_Rac
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    BossXV wrote: »
    Op? For stam?

    Flawless is the best Ulti for PvE Stam DPS

    I see a lot of top PvE DPS going for Rend (Dual Wield ultimate) now. When Flawless Dawnbreaker was only 100 ult it was almost certainly the best. But the cost increase to 125 was essentially a DPS nerf since you cannot have it up as much during a fight. Rend is not much more expensive at 150 ultimate and the 16-second duration is impressive. I have not done any side-by-side tests myself but people I usually trust to know what they are doing are switching to Rend. I would be most concerned by the 8% loss to weapon damage stat from not having Flawless slotted. Your entire rotation will hit a little less hard because of that. So Rend not only has to outperform Flawless Dawnbreaker itself, but outperform by enough to make up for the DPS loss of everything else due to 8% less weapon damage stat.
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    BossXV wrote: »
    Op? For stam?

    Flawless is the best Ulti for PvE Stam DPS

    I see a lot of top PvE DPS going for Rend (Dual Wield ultimate) now. When Flawless Dawnbreaker was only 100 ult it was almost certainly the best. But the cost increase to 125 was essentially a DPS nerf since you cannot have it up as much during a fight. Rend is not much more expensive at 150 ultimate and the 16-second duration is impressive. I have not done any side-by-side tests myself but people I usually trust to know what they are doing are switching to Rend. I would be most concerned by the 8% loss to weapon damage stat from not having Flawless slotted. Your entire rotation will hit a little less hard because of that. So Rend not only has to outperform Flawless Dawnbreaker itself, but outperform by enough to make up for the DPS loss of everything else due to 8% less weapon damage stat.

    Yeah, I just checked it out on my StamBlade: Rend definitely seems to be a better choice due to the powerful DoT over 16 secs, that gets further empowered after vMSA DW Rapid Strikes. So I guess that would make up for the loss in Weapon Damage
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  • Brokensocket
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    Whats rend?
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  • Woeler
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    Rend > DB.
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  • Sheey
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    Rend= dualwield ulti
  • Lukums1
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    Man everyone said Rend.

    In certain situations it's very very good.

    But thrive in chaos makes me foam from the mouth in VMA with the extra 30% increase to damage.

    Very situational these decisions are.
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  • Leandor
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    Smiting > Flawless, in my opinion.

    Both have their place in PvP. Dawnbreaker has an incredible mass CC potential, making it invaluable for group vs group combat. Rend's heal component will do nothing for your group.

    Dawnbreaker has an upfront damage component that can be combined for burst whereas Rend is only effective over time.

    I usually slot Rend on main bar and Dawnbreaker on back bar.
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