Questions on Sturdy Armor Trait and Blocking in General

Ir0nB34r

I am looking at retooling my Mag Sorc Tank into a Stam Sorc Tank, and need a little guidance..

1) Is blocking affected by the resistance cap? Meaning if I am already at the soft cap on physical and magic resistance, will blocking be ineffective?
2) If no, is there a cap to the amount of damage shielding can block?
3) How viable would it be to have 5 items of my armor have the Sturdy trait on them? Is there a limit to Sturdy's bonus?
4) Is there a Stam armor set that will benefit a shield bearer? (prefer crafted so I can avoid grinding a new set)

Nestor

I will answer #3 for you.

If your a Tank, it could be good to have 4 small pieces in Sturdy and the 4 large in Infused or Divines. But that is if your tend to Perma Block or you don't have a lot of Stamina Sustain. It also depends on how much you block and how often you block. Also, if your Health Regen is up there and or your gear does good at keeping your Health up, how much Blocking do you need to do? The gear set I have on my tank never lets me get below 80% Health even standing in stupid.

In other words, it all depends. Me, I would try it and see if it works for my build and more importantly, how I play.

But, for a DPS, your much better off with Divines on the small pieces and Infused or Divines on the Large Pieces. Now, if your doing PvP, you will want some Impenetrable instead of Sturdy.

Ir0nB34r

@Nestor What set do you use for your Tank? Currently I run with:
5/p Imperium
5/p Plague Doctor
2/p Lord Warden

When Lord Warden procs, and I have Hurricane active, my resistances are maxed out. So for now, while I am a lower CP (230), I want to keep Warden/Plague. At higher CP levels I will likely switch them out. But I am going to drop Imperium since the shield it offers is often destroyed instantly by incoming damage.

When I was a Mag Sorc, I was not blocking much at all. But now that I have started to block more my survivability has gone through the roof. My current setup has an issue with sustaining Stam so I am trying to fix that.

Nestor

@Ir0nB34r

Syvarra's Scales and Bahara's Curse. A guild mate recommended it and my first thought was, nah, it can't be that good. I even deconned all the stuff I picked up doing the Thieves content. Then I tried it and I hardly ever see my Health Bar, and when I do, it's not dinged hardly at all.

Now, I have not tanked a Vet Dungeon yet, so still not ready to say it's the end all of a Health Sustain Tanking set, but for anything else, I don't die. Ever. Unless I am not doing some damage every 8 seconds, it is amazing how fast I get burned down if I don't do some damage every 8 seconds. I use Burning Embers for low cost Damage, so that gives me health return too. So, a Taunt every 15 seconds, burning embers every 4 and just bask in the warm glow of damage not affecting me.

The stuff is pretty cheap in guild stores to pick up and try, even if in off traits.

Ir0nB34r

Ahhhh.. Okay. Knowing now that you do not do Vet Dungeons puts me a little at ease. Except for PvP and Vet stuff, I am pretty darn resilient. I have no issues with sustaining resources or dying easily. I was concerned about what I was doing wrong.

But I need to block heavy hits in Vet Dungeons and sustaining Stam there is a problem.

My end goal is to farm nAA trial for the defending warrior set. It has the healing ability that Bahara's Curse has, but has the ability to heal so much more.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Here are a couple of good threads-


https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/265399/detailed-explanation-of-block-cost-changes/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options-updated-for-a-third-time/p1

raj72616a

blocking reduce damage taken by 50%, on top of armor resist.
and the reduction is further increased by s&b passive.
s&b ultimate says that it automatically blocks, but it only give the damage reduction, and does not prevent getting knocked down by heavy attack and other effects that can be prevented by actually blocking.
blocking takes very little stam anyway so i dont find sturdy useful. if the healer cannot help with my stam, a use drink instead of food.

i use leeching plate and that seems to heal very good. especially on stam class since the heal can make use of our weapon crit. leeching plate can have multiple AOE DOT(HOT) active at the same time, so it seems to work better than bahara curse.

AzuraKin

raj72616a wrote: »

blocking reduce damage taken by 50%, on top of armor resist.
and the reduction is further increased by s&b passive.
s&b ultimate says that it automatically blocks, but it only give the damage reduction, and does not prevent getting knocked down by heavy attack and other effects that can be prevented by actually blocking.
blocking takes very little stam anyway so i dont find sturdy useful. if the healer cannot help with my stam, a use drink instead of food.

i use leeching plate and that seems to heal very good. especially on stam class since the heal can make use of our weapon crit. leeching plate can have multiple AOE DOT(HOT) active at the same time, so it seems to work better than bahara curse.

rofl if you think blocking doesnt take a lot of stam, try tanking something other then 1 thing. such as in pvp try blocking when you have 6 players on you, full s/b passives, cp reduction, cost reduction enchants and sturdy and you will drain stamina like a seive still.

raj72616a

blocking truly does not take a lot of stam in pve. even in vet dungeon. (i cant say for vet trial and vdsa etc tho).

only heavy attacks and a few special boss attacks need to be blocked.

i spend a lot more stam on taunt, on power of light, on heroic slash, on momentun, on vigor. sturdy will not help much with my overall stam expenditure.

Gaggin

Wow, some bad advice goin on in here...

You cannot go wrong with sturdy traits, I'd reccomend it on everything as well as the blocking enchants on jewellry along with cp tree block cost reduction. You can put infused on a few of the large pieces if u want, but i dont find it helpful personally, just never use divines. You should be blocking most of the time so block reduction is super important, espeicially once you start doing endgame content.

And keep in mind you shouldnt have more than 30k health, so 64 attributies in stam is what u need to do.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

AzuraKin wrote: »

raj72616a wrote: »

blocking reduce damage taken by 50%, on top of armor resist.
and the reduction is further increased by s&b passive.
s&b ultimate says that it automatically blocks, but it only give the damage reduction, and does not prevent getting knocked down by heavy attack and other effects that can be prevented by actually blocking.
blocking takes very little stam anyway so i dont find sturdy useful. if the healer cannot help with my stam, a use drink instead of food.

i use leeching plate and that seems to heal very good. especially on stam class since the heal can make use of our weapon crit. leeching plate can have multiple AOE DOT(HOT) active at the same time, so it seems to work better than bahara curse.

rofl if you think blocking doesnt take a lot of stam, try tanking something other then 1 thing. such as in pvp try blocking when you have 6 players on you, full s/b passives, cp reduction, cost reduction enchants and sturdy and you will drain stamina like a seive still.

Blocking only takes stam every half second, no matter the amount of people/mobs hitting you. With my set in my tank, that being 15% CR from cp, 6 purple sturdy(21%), absorb magic(8%), s/b passives(36%) and only 2 gold cost reduction enchants on jewelry(-406) my block costs around 600 stam every half second, hardly draining like a "seive", you also get stam back from being hit, so the actual cost goes down further, with the 30k stam on my tank, I can almost block for a good minute with out any regen from igneous or heavy attacks.

raj72616a

one set you can try is Pariah set. it's not bind on pickup, you can get it cheap from guildstore. the 5th bonus gives you >2k resist even at full health, and goes up to 10k as your health drop, so you can easily reach resist cap. But then as sorc maybe you run lightning form and already cap resistance all the time already?