Is a wardrobe system possibly being looked into?

Aliyavana

Current restrictions punishes those who wish to min/max their character and instead of wearing stylish gear that you have learned via playing the game from motifs, you now have the head of some oversized boss monster that does not match with the rest of their gear.

Can we have more customizations over our characters appearance and implement some wardrobe system to change the appearance of some items to others. This in effect can aid crafters who have learned many motif styles to change an ugly armor piece into a better looking one. you can fix the problem by wearing a costume over the horrid armor but that forces you to mostly spend crowns to get a decent costume and even if you do get said costume, you are funneled into looking like every other person who is wearing the costume. any discussions on implementing a system like this to the game? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Kendaric

I'd love to have a wardrobe/transmogrify system, but with the focus on the crown store the chances of getting something are slim at best.

Kamatsu

I also think it would be a great idea - and the tech isn't already in the game. Yes, the tech is already there - costumes, hair swapping, accessory swapping, etc. You can already switch hair styles, as well as full-on costume sets... being able to switch armor styles is only a short step further.

Ok, well maybe not that easy - I'm no programmer. But the basics for it are already in place. Just add another tab/panel and have the armor sets as the drop-down (rather than hair style, accessories, costumes, etc) with each piece there... and as you 'unlock' the style by learning the motif it will appear there. Thus allowing you to over-write any armor piece with the motif of your choice.

No idea how hard/easy it would be to do though. But would love to see it happen. But the biggest thing going against it is the suits - "How can we profit from this?"

ItsGlaive

Kamatsu wrote: »

I also think it would be a great idea - and the tech isn't already in the game. Yes, the tech is already there - costumes, hair swapping, accessory swapping, etc. You can already switch hair styles, as well as full-on costume sets... being able to switch armor styles is only a short step further.

The tech has been there since early development - equipment slots. Add in a new tab with a second set of slots, have those slots overwrite the visuals of the equipment tab.

The same kind of system mmos have been using for years now

Kamatsu

Xabien wrote: »

Kamatsu wrote: »

I also think it would be a great idea - and the tech isn't already in the game. Yes, the tech is already there - costumes, hair swapping, accessory swapping, etc. You can already switch hair styles, as well as full-on costume sets... being able to switch armor styles is only a short step further.

The tech has been there since early development - equipment slots. Add in a new tab with a second set of slots, have those slots overwrite the visuals of the equipment tab.

The same kind of system mmos have been using for years now

... Now I feel silly as I completely didn't think about that, and that's a feature I love in SW:TOR, as well as LOTRO when I played it. Both those MMO's had 'costume' equipment slots where you could put gear in and have it overwrite the look of the base gear, while keeping the stats & such from the 'worn' equipment.

runagate

I just use an add-on to randomly and rapidly cycle through adornments, hair styles, facial and body markings.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

runagate wrote: »

I just use an add-on to randomly and rapidly cycle through adornments, hair styles, facial and body markings.

Did you even read the post?

AsteriaStarfall

While every other MMO seems to go out of their way to let you dress your character as you see fit. ESo seems instead content on restricting your characters appearance left and right. I keep hoping but I'm losing hope fast.

DaFatCookie

sometimes i regret crafting armor i got after a while, i don't want to craft another just to change the style of my armor it's a waste especially when the gear is maxed out i hope something is implemented to where anyone can change the style of armor they have without using some sort of crown system or sub(i'm a sub but still it should be free for everyone)

Aliyavana

AsteriaStarfall wrote: »

While every other MMO seems to go out of their way to let you dress your character as you see fit. ESo seems instead content on restricting your characters appearance left and right. I keep hoping but I'm losing hope fast.

yes

Zaldan

Devs have already said that a wardrobe/transmog system is too difficult and isn't being looked into

bellanca6561n

Zaldan wrote: »

Devs have already said that a wardrobe/transmog system is too difficult and isn't being looked into

Just one of several reasons why, by their own admission, ESO fails to have the stickiness the genre is known for, alas.

No, not just a custom costume system, but answers like that. It's like saying that motors on boats is too difficult. Use sails or row.

Kendaric

Zaldan wrote: »

Devs have already said that a wardrobe/transmog system is too difficult and isn't being looked into

Which is a rather blatant lie... they already have most of the tech required. Would it be a lot of work? Probably, but I think it would be time and work well spent.
The real reason for them not to do this is the crown store. It's harder to sell costumes when people can basically create their own.

adriant1978

I have a feeling they won't add this for fear that it would impact Crown Store costume sales.

hrothbern

adriant1978 wrote: »

I have a feeling they won't add this for fear that it would impact Crown Store costume sales.

They could sell blanket costumes at the Crown Store, that we can "load" with the visuals of a gear we crafted.
=> design visuals for everybody & no loss of Crown Sales for ZOS.

They could on top add the additional visual slots for accounts that have a sub.
=> no real extra feature for subbers, but more convenience to change appearance.

BlanketFort

hrothbern wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

I have a feeling they won't add this for fear that it would impact Crown Store costume sales.

They could sell blanket costumes at the Crown Store, that we can "load" with the visuals of a gear we crafted.
=> design visuals for everybody & no loss of Crown Sales for ZOS.

They could on top add the additional visual slots for accounts that have a sub.
=> no real extra feature for subbers, but more convenience to change appearance.

If they can add in an accurate preview system, then that'd be great! that would be a good compromise between the ability for players to change and customise appearance, and not impact crown sales (perhaps not that much?). And they could also sell costumes that are split into chest/armour/etc parts, bought as a whole, to still support costume sales through crown store. It's all comestic and I wouldn't mind it being put behind a pay wall. It's optional and doesn't impact skill in-game.

Danikat

It doesn't seem to affect the sales of costumes in Guild Wars 2.

They have a wardrobe system where the appearance of any item is unlocked when you equip it, or salvage it. After that it's saved forever and you can apply it to any matching equipment piece at any time by using a 'transmutation charge'. (Matching meaning same type of equipment - you can't make a sword look like an axe or a heavy chest piece look like a light one.)

They also sell 'outfits' in their store which are identical to ESO's costumes.

People are forever complaining about how terrible outfits are because you can't mix and match them like you can with armour. But in spite of that and the wardrobe they continue to sell. When a new one comes out you'll see it everywhere for a week or so and then it calms down a bit and becomes just one of many styles you'll see, until the next one comes out.

I think the main reason for this is convenience. If I want two different styles of armour I either have to carry two sets around or I need to keep spending transmutation charges to change between them (and then change all my dyes over). Whereas if I have armour + an outfit I can switch between them at will. And if I have 5 outfits that gives me 6 different looks I can switch freely, no bag space required.

It might also help that armour styles are more restrictive in GW2. You're locked into one armour weight based on your class and they all look similar. If I want my warrior to wear a dress for guild parties I can't just stick her in a light robe, my only option is an outfit. Likewise if I want to create a 'battlemage' look I can't just put platemail on a caster. But I do think the convenience is a bigger factor.

I'm not saying their system is perfect, I actually think this is one thing ESO could do even better if they were willing to introduce it and I'd love to see what they'd do with the concept. But I really don't think they need to worry about costume sales if they did it.

TheShadowScout

Personally I would prefer a gear style transmogrification system (including level styles) over a wardrobe system...

But that is because I am from a roleplaying background, and really, really dislike people showing visuals in combat that do not match their equipment. I dislike "town dress" style costumes in combat for the same reason...

bellanca6561n

A good compromise would be costume kits. You could buy torso, shoulder, lower body pieces as well as boots and such. Have three actual dye slots for each piece and let players assemble the pieces they want.

The take-it-or-leave-it costume, with some dye slots working and the only option being to wear or remove the head piece, is simply too weak in a genre so eager for customization options.

And, yeah, I avoided the word, lie, when it came to that feasibility statement as it was quoted without a source.

As it is if you want to have control over your character's appearance you must use costumes if you mean to be competitive in the core game.

I posted this in another topic here, but I was impressed by this player's combination of a body tattoo with a costume.

It naturally made me imagine what players could do with genuine costume customization.

Because you can't call it customization at all if you're limited to complete, unalterable fixed cash shop costumes. And appearance is the only player generated content we've got.

Rev Rielle

Honestly, if we could just put on a set of armour, then use a 'stone' or some other magickal device (Crown Store brought likely) to convert that armour into a costume, that would be a great - and simple - compromise I think.

bellanca6561n

Rev Rielle wrote: »

Honestly, if we could just put on a set of armour, then use a 'stone' or some other magickal device (Crown Store brought likely) to convert that armour into a costume, that would be a great - and simple - compromise I think.

Absolutely!

It would be better actually. I was simply thinking of a solution where they could get something and we could get something....something more than this current set of cash shop offerings.

I try to cite you, Rev, using the little @ followed by your name but nothing comes up alas.

Recremen

The more we clamor for it, the sooner it will happen! Shield dyes were long ago just a plea in someone's forum signature! One Tamriel's whole-game level scaling was "too big a project to consider at this time" just last year! We want full control over character appearance, and our cries must be heard!!

Kattemynte

Zaldan wrote: »

Devs have already said that a wardrobe/transmog system is too difficult and isn't being looked into

But they already have a system in place. Imperials. Imperials can transmute any armor into the imperial style. This is exactly what we are asking for. If you have a crafter that knows a certain style, allow them to do exactly like the imperials.

Aliyavana

I would like loose restrictions on the wardrobe system, like being able to use light armor gear and lower tier gear into say a medium armor piece, and change a sword to an axe but you cant change a sword into a staff or a 2h only one handed for example

Riga_Mortis

Make completed motifs polymorphs, job done.

Aliyavana

Dazza1968 wrote: »

Make completed motifs polymorphs, job done.

While that looks like a good idea, wouldn't solve the problem for those that like to be creative and mix and match armor from different motifs

TheImperfect

I find the tiny icon preview images for the various styles hard to see, a better preview of gear you will craft on your character would be nice.

Aliyavana

no word from zos

Wolfshead

Say what you want about blizzard and WoW but one thing i think work every well in that game is there Transmogrification system you can basic take any armor you want and put in armor slot on char and armor will change to that but you still keep all stats.

That is one system i think would work really well in ESO for as it now if i want change armor i need craft total new part with same stats and everything it is feel like "catch-22" atm.

Transmogrification here you read little more what is all about i think that one of best feature blizzard put in to WoW

Vythri

Maybe if the costumes on the crown store didn't look terrible, then it wouldn't matter if we could transmog gear. I'd still buy costumes then, because they'd still look cool and give me an option to wear something different that wasn't already in the game.

Rosveen

Matt Firor in September 2016 Reddit AMA:

Now, to your question: this is something we have talked about, but it is more complex than you otherwise might imagine - item transmogrication can work in a limited fashion pretty easily (like the ability to change everything to Imperial Style if you own the Imperial Edition), but not something we are currently considering on a mass scale.

Poor dude isn't even aware that the majority of useful item sets can't be transformed to Imperial.