Combat & skills animation rollback to patch 1.5/1.6?

LEGENDARYYY

Hence the combat, skills, weaving, cancelling and swapping are totally buggy, unresponsive, laggy and glitchy.

Is it time for a rollback to combat and animation priority from patch 1.5/1.6? The time when fighting was silky smooth. See my signature from when I soloed vet elden. When our reactions and timings were limiting us, not bugs.

To clarify further. What im proposing will not change skills or abilities. It will change how the game process and animate them. Neither am I against the removal of animation cancelling eventually, but they gotta release a proper update, not these small game breaking ones. Meanwhile they should implement the old 1.5/1.6 animation priorities, so that we can actually count on the game to register our actions while waiting for a better patch.

LEGENDARYYY

Yes

To those voting no, any arguments why? What is better now compared to a year ago? I'm struggling to find anything but negatives.

Ashtaris

Yes

I agree! Since they put in those major changes in combat animations, most of the skills have been terribly laggy. Often times I see NPC's around me taking damage, but don't see the animations pop, or if I do, it certainly isn't done smoothly like we had before. And for those voting no, did you even know what it was like beforehand?

Mic1007

Yes

Just the animations of skills, but keep any skill changes since then.

LEGENDARYYY

Yes

Ashtaris wrote: »

I agree! Since they put in those major changes in combat animations, most of the skills have been terribly laggy. Often times I see NPC's around me taking damage, but don't see the animations pop, or if I do, it certainly isn't done smoothly like we had before. And for those voting no, did you even know what it was like beforehand?

Yeah, I think maybe they misunderstood the poll question. I updated it so that it should be easier to understand.

WhiteMage

I was not around during this time. What have I been missing?

LEGENDARYYY

Yes

WhiteMage wrote: »

I was not around during this time. What have I been missing?

You can watch my old vids. ESO used to have incredibly smooth and responsive combat.

Darethran

Yes

Weaving seems very exploity; like toggle escaping in Dark Souls. It also looks terrible, and constantly causes animations to bug out when you're in an intense firefight.

Case in point, weaving whilst spamming Steel Tornado in a dungeon causes your character to just have his weapon raised above his head, with no attack animations playing.

It's just bad.

Acrolas

No

Since ZOS are unable to remove animation canceling from the game, they prioritized the animations based on what you're currently asking the server to perform. It's not lag. You just can't roll three attacks and a block into a single animation anymore. I'm pretty sure the only people actually mad are the people who wasted money on input devices and other gaming peripherals to take advantage of the older, less accurate system.

LEGENDARYYY

Yes

Acrolas wrote: »

Since ZOS are unable to remove animation canceling from the game, they prioritized the animations based on what you're currently asking the server to perform. It's not lag. You just can't roll three attacks and a block into a single animation anymore. I'm pretty sure the only people actually mad are the people who wasted money on input devices and other gaming peripherals to take advantage of the older, less accurate system.

You have 7 stars on forums and you haven't played the game?

I can pick and choose anyone I know in this game, not a single one of them would agree on what you just said.

kargen27

No

LEGENDARYYY wrote: »

Hence the combat, skills, weaving, cancelling and swapping are totally buggy, unresponsive, laggy and glitchy.

Is it time for a rollback to combat and animation priority from patch 1.5/1.6? The time when fighting was silky smooth. See my signature from when I soloed vet elden. When our reactions and timings were limiting us, not bugs.

To clarify further. What im proposing will not change skills or abilities. It will change how the game process and animate them.

They were buggy before and unintended. Sure it sucks a bit having to get used to skills taking as long an was intended but in the end it will be a good thing. We were never meant to animation cancel and finally a little bit has been done to fix that.

Acrolas

No

LEGENDARYYY wrote: »

You have 7 stars on forums and you haven't played the game?

I can pick and choose anyone I know in this game, not a single one of them would agree on what you just said.

People not agreeing doesn't make it less correct, though. This is completely about newer animation prioritization, one that favors fairness in interpretation and telegraphing rather than allowing completely dissimilar attacks from being melted on top of one another as if half of them had no origin.

Though interestingly, I use the same cleverness and resourcefulness that earned all those awesomes to design my combat techniques. I know how hard it is to undo bad habits...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279855/why-i-dislike-the-new-animation-prioritization-system

Kram8ion

Yes

Yes the good old days
Days gone by
Ye olde' times
When my toon didn't get his hands stuck in his pockets pulling out a dagger

Alpheu5

Yes

Medium-weaving with fire staves is a nightmare now. Sometimes it'll shoot fine, other times I'll release the mouse button at point blank range, and my character just walks past the target, keeps charging, turns their entire body around to keep aim, and maybe releases a heavy attack. It totally throws off the rhythm of the fight. If they wanted moves to fully animate before further input is allowed, they should have taken a turn-based combat approach.

LEGENDARYYY

Yes

kargen27 wrote: »

LEGENDARYYY wrote: »

Hence the combat, skills, weaving, cancelling and swapping are totally buggy, unresponsive, laggy and glitchy.

Is it time for a rollback to combat and animation priority from patch 1.5/1.6? The time when fighting was silky smooth. See my signature from when I soloed vet elden. When our reactions and timings were limiting us, not bugs.

To clarify further. What im proposing will not change skills or abilities. It will change how the game process and animate them.

They were buggy before and unintended. Sure it sucks a bit having to get used to skills taking as long an was intended but in the end it will be a good thing. We were never meant to animation cancel and finally a little bit has been done to fix that.

Thing is, its not even close to an improvement, its more buggy than ever. I don't care about animation cancelling or anything as long as the game responds properly. There has to be consistency when using skills, not pure randomness. As it is now skills may fire, or they may not, its left to chance and it changes every day, every hour.

If they are gonna remove animation cancelling they gotta do it properly. They can't release updates to the game that are game breaking, and yeah it's game breaking when my skills do fire in one arena of vMSA, and then the next when I do the exact same rotation, it bugs out and I get killed cause of it.

So, they should roll it back to 1.5/1.6 animation priorities and then start working on a proper update. The state of the game now is unacceptable.

LEGENDARYYY

Yes

Acrolas wrote: »

LEGENDARYYY wrote: »

You have 7 stars on forums and you haven't played the game?

I can pick and choose anyone I know in this game, not a single one of them would agree on what you just said.

People not agreeing doesn't make it less correct, though. This is completely about newer animation prioritization, one that favors fairness in interpretation and telegraphing rather than allowing completely dissimilar attacks from being melted on top of one another as if half of them had no origin.

Though interestingly, I use the same cleverness and resourcefulness that earned all those awesomes to design my combat techniques. I know how hard it is to undo bad habits...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279855/why-i-dislike-the-new-animation-prioritization-system

You made it sound like the game is perfectly fine? Thats what I disagree with. If the game is fine for you then you are of the lucky few of the playerbase or just don't tryhard enough to care if there are bugs.

I know why they implemented changes to animation priority, my point is that it just doesn't work and the game is worse off now than ever before.