Maelstrom & Master Weaps @ the Golden

Paneross

Or blue cp150 weaps from Normal.

DocFrost72

code65536 wrote: »

Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Why not use this as a way to impliment a token system? When one completes vMA, they receive a token. Golden takes tokens as currency.

Alternatively, you can redeem one token a week (per character) if you have done vMA, then pay the same rate for helms for your weapon.

Boom.

This is a great idea.

No, it's a horrible idea. It makes no sense to sell it at the Golden--which comes only on weekends and has a random selection of wares (oh, RNGesus, please let the Golden sell a sharpened fire staff instead of a nirnhoned ice staff this weekend)--when there's already a vendor inside Maelstrom itself. If there is to be a token system, then it should be done right. Sell all weapons from the vMA vendor, which is available at all times, using tokens that you earn in vMA. None of this Golden nonsense.

In the idea I referenced, you can pick any weapon with your tokens. Once per week per character.

KingYogi415

all we need is smart loot!

50+ runs and you should have everything in sharpened.

olsborg

All I want is pvp weapons that you get through pvp activity, it basicly is a vma/master weapon, but only has the 189 wep dmg / max resource bonus, not the ability-changer. Hell most ppl only use these in pvp because of the passive 189 wep dmg. Feels bad that they are only looted in pve when they are so bis for pvp.

Voxicity

As much as I hate MSA drops...



no no no no no no no no no no no no

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I agree we need a better way to get the weapons we are after, but this is not it. Also, CP 150 weapons would be pretty useless compared to crafters CP 160 options.

Token system and/or trait change are my favorite options.

What if a crafter could "research" one item at a time for say 20-30 days, that would result in a trait change.

MakoFore

no earn it like everyone else . you might be able to buy your degree, your friends, your job and your girl- but you will never ever be able to buy a maelstrom weapon and walk around with ur 2 hand maul acting like uve done it!

:-P

tist

Let people with the achievements buy them

Meld777

It's been over a year since I started farming vMA. Over 400 runs later, I still don't have my damn staff. I don't care if every level 10 pug can buy a Sharpened Inferno for 200 gold, as long as I can buy mine aswell. I have 5+ of every single Sharpened and Precise vMA weapon out there, but not a single Sharpened Inferno Staff. Just let me get it somehow. I don't care how. The level 10 pug won't be able to use it the same way I'm going to use it anyway.

Fact is, vMA has been fun, but the RNG misery has been going on for way too long. I've seen guilds break apart and many friends quit ESO over this.

Edziu

funny thing

the golden vendor was created for pvp player who dont want to run pve for monster sets

for the hell what are msa weapons on pvp? maybe only resto for addidtional mag reg while mutagen active? atleast 2h weapon with shield for tankly scrubs

now I see it must be a request from pve nub for this who is just unskilled to run vMSA and atlest vDSA which is some easier but longer with good team...but easier

also weapons from DSA on pvp...only bow, maybe resto and also sword with shield should be usable.

for rest weapons specjally from vMSA I dont see any point to use them on cyro instead of pvem, who is using rapid on cyro? bho is standing in aoe from destro staff or bow?

so funny...pve scrub writing to get buyable pve items from pvp vendor for pvp players


token system......and again...why pvp vendor should help pve players to buy they destro/duals?

itscompton

Seems like a system in which you earned a choice between a random weapon or a token for clearing VMA and then a vendor somewhere with all the weapons in all traits available for 15 tokens each would be a good balance. If you really want a particular weapon every completion has a chance of giving it too you and if you don't get it after 15 runs you can buy it with the tokens you've earned by grinding 20+ hours of repetitive solo content.

Doctordarkspawn

Brilliant idea.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

clv wrote: »

Earn your weapons like the people who have them

No one earns it if you get a random drop my stamina Nightblade didn't work for a restoration staff or a desro staff.

xX_NachtJager_xx

I ran maelstrom once and got a precise destro staff. At the time all the characters I had were a stamblade, and a stam tank. So I had no use for this weapon. I ended up making a magica sorcerer so I could actually use it. I didn't want it to go to waste

Decado

Edziu wrote: »

funny thing

the golden vendor was created for pvp player who dont want to run pve for monster sets

for the hell what are msa weapons on pvp? maybe only resto for addidtional mag reg while mutagen active? atleast 2h weapon with shield for tankly scrubs

now I see it must be a request from pve nub for this who is just unskilled to run vMSA and atlest vDSA which is some easier but longer with good team...but easier

also weapons from DSA on pvp...only bow, maybe resto and also sword with shield should be usable.

for rest weapons specjally from vMSA I dont see any point to use them on cyro instead of pvem, who is using rapid on cyro? bho is standing in aoe from destro staff or bow?

so funny...pve scrub writing to get buyable pve items from pvp vendor for pvp players


token system......and again...why pvp vendor should help pve players to buy they destro/duals?

What the *** is this ***?

The golden is a vendor for both PvE and PvP hence you can buy it with AP or GOLD both with different traits,

And don't assume people who want to buy the weapons are "just unskilled"

I would buy the weapon from the vendor and happily and I know ALOT of people in the same position as me who also would

Edziu

Decado wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

funny thing

the golden vendor was created for pvp player who dont want to run pve for monster sets

for the hell what are msa weapons on pvp? maybe only resto for addidtional mag reg while mutagen active? atleast 2h weapon with shield for tankly scrubs

now I see it must be a request from pve nub for this who is just unskilled to run vMSA and atlest vDSA which is some easier but longer with good team...but easier

also weapons from DSA on pvp...only bow, maybe resto and also sword with shield should be usable.

for rest weapons specjally from vMSA I dont see any point to use them on cyro instead of pvem, who is using rapid on cyro? bho is standing in aoe from destro staff or bow?

so funny...pve scrub writing to get buyable pve items from pvp vendor for pvp players


token system......and again...why pvp vendor should help pve players to buy they destro/duals?

What the *** is this ***?

The golden is a vendor for both PvE and PvP hence you can buy it with AP or GOLD both with different traits,

And don't assume people who want to buy the weapons are "just unskilled"

I would buy the weapon from the vendor and happily and I know ALOT of people in the same position as me who also would

at all this vendor was created with a thought about pvp players, they added for pve in additional.
and I know...some are skilled and just arnt able to farm expecjally those weapons? idk
and at all...all what is in this vendor are moslty sets usable to pvp...maybe just not all mosnters sets...but how pvp players wanted this they have chance to obtain all monster sets without going on pve, all other sets what arnt mosnter sets are usable on pvp and now tell me how you will make usable moslty master/msa weapons on pvp.


ah and almost forgot...RNG....pve players are runnuing msa 100+ runs without any good drop what they want, so much time etc, so why someone can buy from vendor with perfect trait then? calculated how much time you need to waste on rng on this arena and your mentality destroyed by this rng everywhere....those wepons from vendor should cost then maybe 5-10m gold or 25m+ ap.

farming ap...hmm some timeater but you dont need any think to farm it easily, just spam 1-2 buttons where is action, gold....coz, some people know hw to make gold etc so weapons for 500k, 1m will be so chep while with this las update sharpened weapons from penetration sets was for 500k, so what it is 1m for master/msa weapon

FrostFallFox

Or y'all could complete Maelstrom Arena on Veteran difficulty, I hear that works.

itscompton

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Or y'all could complete Maelstrom Arena on Veteran difficulty, I hear that works.

And then do it somewhere between 50 and 300 more times and maybe you'll get what you want. Great advice. The best gear/weapons locked behind ridiculously long RNG grinds is what made me quite DC online for this game in the beginning. I'm lucky in that I'm a Mag Temp who prefers to run 5-5-2 on DW/S&B bar 5/4/2 on Destro but I've been playing since console release and have had 30-40 people in my guild start and quit the game within two months because of RNG frustration. Putting BiS gear behind stupid long odds drives people away instead of keeping them playing.

Decado

I've done my grind over the year with the actual
Arena last thing I need it to grind PvP to be able
To get the weapons, 1 mil AP is fine

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

MakoFore wrote: »

no earn it like everyone else . you might be able to buy your degree, your friends, your job and your girl- but you will never ever be able to buy a maelstrom weapon and walk around with ur 2 hand maul acting like uve done it!

:-P

THIS!

Meld777

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Or y'all could complete Maelstrom Arena on Veteran difficulty, I hear that works.

I don't know. I completed it over 400 times since its launch. I have every single weapon in Sharpened and Precise multiple time, but not a single Sharpened and Precise Inferno Staff. All other weapon numbers are increasing, but the only weapon I need never drops.

Please teach me how to get what I want by completing vMA.

mb10

Lava_Croft wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

what is the point in even running end game content if people like you just want the option to buy it?


any ZOS employee that worked on DSA or MA in terms of concept, graphics, mechanics etc should and probably would be firmly against this

Because playing the content over and over and over until RNG finally 'rewards' you with what you need really makes you appreciate all the hard work the designers put into it, right?

Right???

Most people who were running around with Molag Kena helms NEVER got passed the first boss at WGT so what on earth is the point of releasing a difficult dungeon if the reward can just be bought for a cheap 100k alliance points.

Let alone maelstrom now and vDSA

Decado

mb10 wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

what is the point in even running end game content if people like you just want the option to buy it?


any ZOS employee that worked on DSA or MA in terms of concept, graphics, mechanics etc should and probably would be firmly against this

Because playing the content over and over and over until RNG finally 'rewards' you with what you need really makes you appreciate all the hard work the designers put into it, right?

Right???

Most people who were running around with Molag Kena helms NEVER got passed the first boss at WGT so what on earth is the point of releasing a difficult dungeon if the reward can just be bought for a cheap 100k alliance points.

Let alone maelstrom now and vDSA

I don't care about the people who got a helm without ever killing the first boss, what does it really matter anyway? How does it effect you in anyway?

I'm more concerned with the people who never got a helm drop with loads of kills who then got the opportunity to buy it those are the people the vendor is aimed at and that is why I'm
Glad the vendor is there

Same with DSA/MSA I don't care about the people who get a weapon without rubbing it I care about the people who have run 100s of time and got nothing

luen79rwb17_ESO

Omg no this would kill the content. I much rather see a trophy system like they implemented on IC with the Key Fragments.

Each boss drop a certain amount of keys, you need a higher amount of keys to open a chest with 2 random weapons as rewards.

Still grindy and still RNG but it certainly helps and doesn't have an impact on current reward system design like in ICP's and WGT's case.

reesenorman

Lava_Croft wrote: »

clv wrote: »

Earn your weapons like the people who have them

Random chance = Earned.

Wrobel approves.

Someone put 100 of hours into one piece of content just to get the weapon they want, regardless if they had to run it once, ten times or 100 times to get it they still earned it.

Rva_Kun

lol

Decado

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Omg no this would kill the content. I much rather see a trophy system like they implemented on IC with the Key Fragments.

Each boss drop a certain amount of keys, you need a higher amount of keys to open a chest with 2 random weapons as rewards.

Still grindy and still RNG but it certainly helps and doesn't have an impact on current reward system design like in ICP's and WGT's case.

More RNG is not the answer as for killing the content you realise people are leaving the game due to this issue right?

GreenhaloX

"If" sellable, should be extremely expensive. I can see it being a 1-5 millions or so for a sharpened piece. There should be a way, other than to suffer through vMA, over and over again, to be able to get those weapons. Make people work to make those gold enough to afford one.

Integral1900

Just stick to normal content and you don't need, maelstrom stuff, two piece helms or anything. It's much more relaxing

Plus you don't have to use those god awefull looking items

sirrmattus

Paneross wrote: »

The last 3 Maelstrom Destro Staves I got have been powered.........

My entire VDSA group has been trying to get a Sharpened Master Bow, the last 15 clears only 2 bows dropped and one was Sharpened.

It's time for the Golden to sell these. Make them CP150 so there's still a reason to run VMA and VDSA.

CP150? tf
so you wont settle for a cp160 of any trait but sharp but you'll settle for a cp150