Plz Stop Making Tank Troll builds

arkansas_ESO

bitels wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

*sighs*
please stop making any troll build at all? how about that? or wait, fix the *** game and add some balance

eso in a nutshell:
- procs are now insane (it is elder procs online now)
- perma dodge / shuffle crap
- ball groups running around killing you in seconds with destro ulti
- perma blockers (tanks...)

and you consider the perma blockers the main issue?
this whole situation is one huge mess, but tanks are the least significant issue here...

Here's a thought the op might not consider your issues a problem , I personally have no issue with the destro ult can be healed though can be moved out of it , I do agree that there is an issue where people are running two proc sets and just trying to get them to proc to get the kill

i guess you misread what I've written:
ball groups running around killing you in seconds with destro ulti
if you're charged by 3-4 people with destro ulti (the one that follows the caster) you're not going to do anything. you won't be able to heal it as the damage is pretty high and you don't have any counters against it (e.g. no blocking, no walking out of the circle as the circle moves and you'll die in 1 or 2 seconds, etc.)
This comment wasn't about the stationary morph or when a single player believes he's to use that ulti.

So what's your suggestion then would you have it nerfed into the ground that even if 3-4 people where to spam it on you that YOU ! had a chance to survive it , then the ult would be so useless for a solo player that the ult would have no point even being around

Couldnt they make same thing as with caltrops? That dmg dont stack when 2 or more are overlaping

Caltrops isn't an ultimate, ultimates should be stronger than your usual skills, imagine how frustrated you would be to have your 250-cost ult be useless because somebody near you cast their 250-cost ult as well

arkansas_ESO

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I am afraid that is personal bias.
Some people do want to fight forever.
Its a test of concentration, nerve, endurance and stamina.
This is what a tank wants.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the dumbest things I have read on these forums (and I read all of my own posts ) You really think that fights becoming a matter of whoever gets bored first is interesting? Do you like to watch paint dry in your free time?

arkansas_ESO

timidobserver wrote: »

I sense an angry ganker.

@NativeJoe plays a pet sorc, lol, farthest thing from a ganker

Soafee

@NativeJoe

It's not only ruining your PVP it's also ruining PVE while leveling. I've ran into "I don't need to wait for my group to run this dungeon" tanks that rush ahead leaving everyone behind or finishing half the dungeon before we even zone in. They don't even need heals which makes them actually horrible tanks. They don't check on the health or agro of the rest of the group they don't care if other people die. They scream at you if you mess up. It's horrible.

Alucardo

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I am afraid that is personal bias.
Some people do want to fight forever.
Its a test of concentration, nerve, endurance and stamina.
This is what a tank wants.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the dumbest things I have read on these forums (and I read all of my own posts ) You really think that fights becoming a matter of whoever gets bored first is interesting? Do you like to watch paint dry in your free time?

They're basically saying some people enjoy playing tanks in PVP. Why is that such a bad thing? As long as they can bring some utility to the table, who cares?

Dakrana_Thrazvoth

NativeJoe wrote: »

Alot of people are up in arms over the proc set meta...

I'm personally not. Because they can be killed, and the Do kill.

However; The Tank trolls emerging everywhere are getting toxic.

No one wants to fight for 10-40 minutes verses someone else.
Stop the Vitality pots, reactive armor, malubeth, Stacking your cp to healing received, Troll king, and permablock, and other combos.

It's sad when elites meet up to duel or spot eachother on the battle field and "have to walk away" from eachother because death would not simply occur or if it did it'd be 20 minutes down the road. x.x

Idk... Am I alone in this thinking? because this whole 7k healing vigor/ a tick + perma block does seem a bit much to me. throw in malubeth and 45k hp and this stuff is just getting stupid.

I mean I'm all for l2p, get some deeps, and AC your way threw a legion of newbs, and the whole god mode does feel amazing. But seriously... it's just complete and total nonsense.
At this rate a month from now we'll have entire unkillable zergs stuck in endless frays. it's getting disgusting.

Play what you want.

Nobody should tell to others players how to play, wich sets and builds for each class.
My adivce is experiment everything, dont blame yourself for play with some builds the community consider as cheesy (in their words) and does not approve or proc sets (and related to unskilled gameplay and builds if we still listen some peoples). Teso (and more since One Tamriel) offer to players a huge diversity of builds and funny sets, that should be sad to not test a lot of builds and make some limitations because someone from the community said it's not fair for pvp or duel.

Rohamad_Ali

No one has to die anymore . We all swap to a regen tank then Cyrodiil will be the land of clanking pots & pans ruled by immortals .

Tryxus

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

No one has to die anymore . We all swap to a regen tank then Cyrodiil will be the land of clanking pots & pans ruled by immortals .

We all be Metapods, Hardening ourselves all day long

NativeJoe

I'm Just here saying Stop it!

It's not like I have the power to stop it, so you "freedom of game players" looking at me like I'm trying to take away your second amendment rights need to calm down. haha

I'm 100% a fan of diverse and weird builds!
I encourage diversity 95% of the time.

I'm just saying this upcoming "Tank meta" is Toxic. For duels, open world pvp, PVE, small scale pvp, and is just nonsense.

What do I want out of posting this? I want people to understand how dumb this is...and perhaps find another way to go. Maybe if they read and understand how frustrating it is to get into a dungeon group where everyone is invulnerable, but the hp on the bosses aren't ********** moving and how doing 4k dps isn't "okay"... Maybe people will understand that 30 minute fights with one person arn't fun, and Simply put.... These builds are a WASTE OF TIME for EVERYONE involved~ be it pve or pvp.

We know these builds exist, we acknowledge anyone of us can throw together something unkillable, and Maybe some of us elites can just tone bring it down a notch. Voluntarily. Because in the end it's the elites and pvp guilds with mandated sets that set the tone of pvp. The newbies arn't going to be able to execute these builds effectively and are still going to be mince meat. And for PVE, People ask around for builds, If they're not the tank, they shouldn't be wasting peoples time with this, advise them to take something else.

If we as a community pulled together even 10% the "negative feedback" people give to sorcs for stacking shields and overloading everything, it'd be a whole lot less toxic. I mean even as a upcoming scrub I heard things like "don't be that guy" "your better then that" and "thats just cheap" ...and to this day I hesitate to even put it on my bar, I use one shield, And Don't "line of sight" the crap out of people. Idk maybe it's just a personal honor system I'm imagining might be out there among the crowd. But these builds are about as fun to fight as watching paint dry, They bring more aggravation to doing dungeons, and they just intuitively feel cheesy to play. Am I alone in this?

Bossdonut

Pvp will never be good in an mmo ever again. Just let it go.

That was proven when Darkfall died because there were too many pansies that quit because they couldn't handle a real pvp game where death actually cost you and you couldnt just button mash like a putz. Nowadays all you "hardcore" pvpers have to do is hope the dice rolls in your favor and if it doesn't just respawn and keep button mashing and zerging until it does.

That and when UO allowed all the little trammies to hide in their own little world and run their mouths while never stepping foot back into fel without 80 friends.

What a joke.

acw37162

You bought your game and pay your sub.

They bought their game and pay their sub.

You play how you want.

They play how they want.

KhajiitiLizard

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Protip: Ignore the tank.

If that fails, write to @Wrobel.

Why? So he'll make so you can't block at all, because it's more interesting?

Lava_Croft

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Protip: Ignore the tank.

If that fails, write to @Wrobel.

Why? So he'll make so you can't block at all, because it's more interesting?

Because Wrobel is there to enable the ones that are not able.

SnubbS

Soafee wrote: »

@NativeJoe

It's not only ruining your PVP it's also ruining PVE while leveling. I've ran into "I don't need to wait for my group to run this dungeon" tanks that rush ahead leaving everyone behind or finishing half the dungeon before we even zone in. They don't even need heals which makes them actually horrible tanks. They don't check on the health or agro of the rest of the group they don't care if other people die. They scream at you if you mess up. It's horrible.

"They don't need heals which makes them a horrible tank"

No.