Light attack weaving + Animation cancel issue with Mouse?

speeez

Hi guys, recently I've been having issues with light attack weaving along with animation canceling, and I've narrowed the problem down to not being able to perform it [well] when using my mouse to cast abilities.

I'm using a razer naga chroma if that matters.

For example when I try to light attack and then press '4' on my mouse, its as if i never even casted the ability causing me to just light attack only.
However, when I do the same except I press '4' on my keyboard, it performs the weave perfectly.

I was wondering if anyone else is having similar issues?

Thanks for any response
much luv
speeez

Aquanova

If the problems with inputs from the mouse, it's not limited to the Razor Naga. I have used a Logitech g700s and g602. It's happens on both.

speeez

Aquanova wrote: »

If the problems with inputs from the mouse, it's not limited to the Razor Naga. I have used a Logitech g700s and g602. It's happens on both.

i would think so, so you've been having the same issue?! thats good to hear im not the only one

MissBizz

I am (once again) trying to learn animation cancelling and it appears to be working with my corsair scimitar. This leads me to believe it isn't just mouse inputs in general.. although I likely am quite a bit slower at it than more experienced players, maybe that's why?

speeez

MissBizz wrote: »

I am (once again) trying to learn animation cancelling and it appears to be working with my corsair scimitar. This leads me to believe it isn't just mouse inputs in general.. although I likely am quite a bit slower at it than more experienced players, maybe that's why?

for me it works 100% of the time if i use keyboard inputs,
and its a hit or miss if i use mouse inputs

Blakeabutler_Blasius

I have heard in the past that ESO abilities active on key "release" rather than press so there can be a delay that affects proper weaving. However, that map a long time ago and I'm not sure of the validity of the statement.

I have always used my Razer Naga mouse for my ability bars so I can not say if a keyboard works more reliably.

Aquanova

I always figured it was something in an update that caused this to happen. For me it started in early 2015. Light attack weaves with crushing shock would be interrupted and only the light attack would fire or sometimes only the CS. Those happens most often with my sorc for some reason.

One thing I remember was it was all of a sudden. One day no problems with the LA weaves, then an update ( don't remember which one ) and then it started.

Vythri

I too am having problems weaving. I used to be able to seamlessly cancel a medium attack with Poison Injection. Now it only works probably 50% of the time. Nothing I have done has changed, so I can only conclude the animation canceling isn't working as it was before.

LegacyDM

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/269046/light-attacking-is-broken-and-animation-priority/p1

Nifty2g

thanks for closing that thread zos

Iselin

I don't know about your Razer, but my MMO7 has advanced settings that let you control the length of time for the simulated key press/release. If yours has that, you just need to play with it and set it to a lower value and see if that fixes it.

But as noted on the linked thread, it's still sort of wonky for some skill/weapon combos - that's the game, not your mouse.

MakoFore

I've noticed that when i wear 3 proc sets the animation cancel almost a hesitation on the light attack - an extra frozen frame, perhaps more calculations going on- i dont know, weaving light attacks into rapid strikes was much more difficult, and inconsistent. same as usual for 2handers and all that though .

LEGENDARYYY

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/301482/bug-unresponsive-laggy-skills-casting-and-weapon-swaps#latest

Probably a minor version of what I got two days ago.

Everything about casting, weaving and swapping is buggy for me now.

Clunkyness of skills and things not firing has been an issue for as long as I can remember. But never as bad as it is now.

Julianos

yes AC is messed up lately weaving is not working as used to be and there is a UI lag

Wollust

Messed up weaving has been around since the thieves guild patch where they pushed the animation prioritization changes

Mojmir

Shards doesn't follow through,I get the circle but then it won't finalize. Blockade won't cast,occasionally a light attack doesn't fire. Didn't see this until DB dropped.

Rune_Relic

I think a lot of the recent problem is ZOS has a shedload of new players running on the same finite resources (hardware).
The server response has been getting diabolical since 1T hit and there are loads and loads of new players.
Until they bring new hardware online, I think its going to be really difficult to tell the root of the problem.

SwaminoNowlino

Same issue is occurring on Xbox. Made a thread in bug reports that was ignored. Don't think we are ever going to get an answer on this one.

LegacyDM

Nifty2g wrote: »

thanks for closing that thread zos

Sigh I know right. Bs. It's a bizarre change and ZOS has never officially commented. At least give us some indication that it was intended or it's a bug. I'm inclined it's their way of fixing animation canceling to appease the anti animation canceller crowd. But because they don't want to *** off the animation canceling crowd they stay silent about their intentions.

Hey ZOS, what ever happened to promoting transparency and effective communications? This is a big deal to our mechanical gameplay and we deserve something.

YoloWizard

Only that specific button? I have same problem with my spammable which appears to be 100% mouse related (Razer Naga)

speeez

UPDATE FOR EVERYONE:
It seemed to have fixed itself for the past few days but now seems to be occuring yet again on a different character.
This time my stamina nightblade, I light attack and hit bloodthirst, when i try it with my mouse button 4 it doesn't go through and only causes a light attack to occur. However when I hit light attack and 4 on my keyboard, it works perfectly.

The mouse input seems to work randomly and then not work randomly.
The keyboard input works 100% of the time.

YoloWizard wrote: »

Only that specific button? I have same problem with my spammable which appears to be 100% mouse related (Razer Naga)

HOLY CRAP i never realized this but yes, It is always my "4" key. which im most comfortable with for my spam/filler ability haha

idk

speeez wrote: »

Hi guys, recently I've been having issues with light attack weaving along with animation canceling, and I've narrowed the problem down to not being able to perform it [well] when using my mouse to cast abilities.

I'm using a razer naga chroma if that matters.

For example when I try to light attack and then press '4' on my mouse, its as if i never even casted the ability causing me to just light attack only.
However, when I do the same except I press '4' on my keyboard, it performs the weave perfectly.

I was wondering if anyone else is having similar issues?

Thanks for any response
much luv
speeez

I use a Razer Naga and I have no issues.
.
Edit: glad to see it is fixed.

Rohamad_Ali

I just use a generic mouse and keyboard and it works fine for canceling . I block cancel short animations and light attack cancel longer casts .

YoloWizard

speeez wrote: »

UPDATE FOR EVERYONE:
It seemed to have fixed itself for the past few days but now seems to be occuring yet again on a different character.
This time my stamina nightblade, I light attack and hit bloodthirst, when i try it with my mouse button 4 it doesn't go through and only causes a light attack to occur. However when I hit light attack and 4 on my keyboard, it works perfectly.

The mouse input seems to work randomly and then not work randomly.
The keyboard input works 100% of the time.

YoloWizard wrote: »

Only that specific button? I have same problem with my spammable which appears to be 100% mouse related (Razer Naga)

HOLY CRAP i never realized this but yes, It is always my "4" key. which im most comfortable with for my spam/filler ability haha

Yep, its annoying af! made me hate Razer so much

Armitas

Mouse test.

As long your clicks show up there it works. The actual button inside the mouse is pretty generic so you can take an old mouse and swap out the button underneath the paddles if you have a soldering iron. Easily saves $100. (if you go that route and need any help PM me) A lot of times the button will not fail 100% but fail at certain angles from which the paddle strikes it. Try the click test from all angles of the paddle.

But more likely it's this messed up broke animation system. We are all suffering from it, and we have all been trying to get a response about it from them but so far the only response has been to lock the thread.

Egonieser

Yes, attack weaving and animation cancelling has been a lot glitchier since the animation priority change. There's certain skills that can't be properly cancelled anymore or they glitch out in some cases. And weaving... It's very much a hit and miss.
I've tried various mice so it's not limited to a specific peripheral.

Eirella

Egonieser wrote: »

Yes, attack weaving and animation cancelling has been a lot glitchier since the animation priority change. There's certain skills that can't be properly cancelled anymore or they glitch out in some cases. And weaving... It's very much a hit and miss.
I've tried various mice so it's not limited to a specific peripheral.

I really wish they would revert the animation priority change, the combat has felt wonky ever since

Solus

I have the Chaos Spectrum mouse and animation cancelling seems to be working fine for me..

Ill OBS a few videos and post them here when I get home from work.

Wollust

Oh yeah of course. How did I forget? I break my spammable on my Razer Naga (in my case it's the 2) every months or two or so. Which is why I have two mouses. One is always send in for repair.
Seems as if it can't handle the thousands of clicks every day on a particular button.

bellanca6561n

Razer Naga here too and, as many others have noted, something beyond hardware is "confused" at the moment. Several animations are acting strangely.

Server lag is a huge components of this as most of you have certainly reckoned when you execute several skills to no effect only to see them, after a pause, land all at once.

Magus

The other part of the equation that isn't being mentioned is that they made the hitbox on targets smaller. Before if basically were facing their direction the abilities would hit, now you kind of need to have the cursor solidly on them to fire. So abilities that require a target vs non-targetted abilities might be part of the reason you are getting this. Light attack can fire without a target, where as dizzying swing doesn't. For example, when the patch that came that affected the hitbox came out, it was very noticeably much harder to land dizzying swing, as one example of an abilitiy where this is very noticeable. You also notice it with crushing shock weaves from far away and landing invigorating drains on players if you are too close to them.