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DC and EP fighting alongside in TF NA
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Skyy✭✭✭.Joy_Division wrote: »Zoola!
EP has come is last place - by a lot - for what seems like forever now. If we are cooperating with DC and reviving the so-called purple alliance, then we suck even more than the last place score would indicate.
As a fairly frequent regular who logs on EP, I will tell you what is a typical routine night entails.- Oh, look DC has Chalman. Again. What a surprise.
- Random calls in zone chat saying take chalman.
- 15 people show up to chalman, get wiped bu 50 DC defenders.
- Hey, look at the Bridge, let's go there and have some fun!
- ****Stays there for 2 hours because wiping at Chalman is no fun and no AP*****
- DC get bored waiting at Chalman, either come to bridge or see all the AD @ Bridge and attack Roe/Faregyl.
- Purple Alliance in effect!
You forgot one thing: If EP leaves the bridge, AD will immediately swarm Sej and BRK.
Even if they don't actually have Alessia, Brindle, or Roebeck at the time.4 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This stuff happens. Every faction is going to think that the other 2 are teamed up against em.For the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR0 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭During off-nights, Oceanic time has been mostly around the Sej /Allesia bridge or just around Sej. There hasn't been much push for keeps or map play at all. Just semi-big 3-way fights between red, blue, and yellow. It's been lots of fun, too. Win some. Lose some. Great fun!0 -
Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »Bananas are key ingredients in most smoothies.
That reminds me of a song, " My milkshake something something" I forgot the words, but I'm old.
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ataggs✭✭✭✭Ahhhh yes! That's song, it has a snappy beat!-
Confirmed Casual
- Templar DC- Zee Taggs
- Templar EP- Zoola
- Templar AD- Old Zoola
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Telel✭✭✭✭✭
✭.Joy_Division wrote: »Zoola!
EP has come is last place - by a lot - for what seems like forever now. If we are cooperating with DC and reviving the so-called purple alliance, then we suck even more than the last place score would indicate.
As a fairly frequent regular who logs on EP, I will tell you what is a typical routine night entails.- Oh, look DC has Chalman. Again. What a surprise.
- Random calls in zone chat saying take chalman.
- 15 people show up to chalman, get wiped bu 50 DC defenders.
- Hey, look at the Bridge, let's go there and have some fun!
- ****Stays there for 2 hours because wiping at Chalman is no fun and no AP*****
- DC get bored waiting at Chalman, either come to bridge or see all the AD @ Bridge and attack Roe/Faregyl.
- Purple Alliance in effect!
You forgot one thing: If EP leaves the bridge, AD will immediately swarm Sej and BRK.
No. The EP players on their AD alts will do that, and the feckless elves whom are to elfish to know better follow.
The ten to thirty remaining Dumbminionites who actually want to PVP and win will continue to hurl ourselves at the eighty kabajilzillion DC running around in Roe or Brindle instead.
Oh and grumbling about how it sucks that people won't take their AP trading alts over to a server that's already been killed of any real competition. We do that a lot too.
Character: Telel
Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.
Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.0 -
Publius_Scipio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't know how you all are PvPing in Cyrodiil when the 4th alliance is procs.4 -
NACtron✭✭✭✭✭No EP guild is coordinating with DC. Most all EP guilds spend most of their time up north fighting cause with the exception of when Fantasia is running AD does not have much to offer besides pug hordes in the Alessia bridge to brk Corridor to fight. I know CoH and others are around they just don't run when PM does.Pact Militia GM
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Anazasi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well Since we have no EP DC coordination, perhaps one could explain why EP every night seems to push south at the same time the DC trains arrive at ROE and Brindle? If EP and AD were to work against the most ZERGY faction on the map things might be a little better. A good example of this was Monday night DK took Gladmist twice during primetime. EP could have attacked Alswell or even Warden forcing DC to stay on the defense for at least an hour but instead they choose to push towards BM. This is the kind of stupid situations that force the perception of PURPLE alliances. I can not control what random players do no more than anyone else. But the organized leaders need to pull their heads out of banana bowl and realize that blue berries taste better. I hear there are zip lock bags full of fresh blue berries in the west.
AD players need to recognize the bigger threat thus far is DC and focus your efforts there.
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aidenmoore✭✭✭✭80% of DC population in Cyrodiil are pugs. They will most likely go to where the action is.
"OH LOOK CROSS SWORD, OH WEEEE~" - The endless battle at Bleaker and Chal.
If they stopped fighting, that means someone made a group via zone chat and organized those pugs to attack elsewhere, otherwise they will still keep fighting there.0 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭aidenmoore wrote: »80% of DC population in Cyrodiil are pugs. They will most likely go to where the action is.
"OH LOOK CROSS SWORD, OH WEEEE~" - The endless battle at Bleaker and Chal.
If they stopped fighting, that means someone made a group via zone chat and organized those pugs to attack elsewhere, otherwise they will still keep fighting there.
Can confirm. The majority of DC are ungrouped and aimless until someone (me when I am on and in the mood to wrangle them) calls out suggestions. This is risky though, because spais. When the guilds get up and running there is of course more organization but then the fights tend to disappear since most ad and ep get crushed by the organized DC. In fact, it was very delicious rolling Telel's group the other night...I think it was Brindle?
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kevlarto_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yea it has been going on for sometime, the collusion in this game is pretty unhealthy I have seen DC EP buddy up I have seen AD also buddy with some DC and EP it happens all around, , the three faction warfare in this game is really kind of a joke and has been for a long time. It robs the game of things like faction pride, or campaign pride, which makes for a better fought campaign.Edited by kevlarto_ESO on November 2, 2016 12:15PM0 -
Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭I used to think this talk was paranoia, but I had to check to see if AD had emp tonight as a reason for the DC / EP coordination. There was no emp, no back cap, just blue and red fighting not just at the same keep but next to each other. Mostly around Roe and Alessia.
I don't believe everyone in both factions is doing this, but it is hard to imagine that at least a couple of groups arent coordinating. I'll gladly take the hate and the rude comments because I know I'm not wrong on this. What I want to know is what the EP get out of this arrangement.
Take off your tin foil hat bro. AD is in the middle of the score board. DC wants to keep you down, and EP wants to get ahead. Get over yourself. This happens to any faction in the middle.Sometimes it's 2nd and 3rd place going after 1st. That's the reason for 3 faction PvP."The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"1 -
Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭In EU it's the opposite, even when EP is losing all it scrolls and keeps. There is still the green alliance.Edited by Van_0S on November 2, 2016 3:47PM0 -
ataggs✭✭✭✭I used to think this talk was paranoia, but I had to check to see if AD had emp tonight as a reason for the DC / EP coordination. There was no emp, no back cap, just blue and red fighting not just at the same keep but next to each other. Mostly around Roe and Alessia.
I don't believe everyone in both factions is doing this, but it is hard to imagine that at least a couple of groups arent coordinating. I'll gladly take the hate and the rude comments because I know I'm not wrong on this. What I want to know is what the EP get out of this arrangement.
Take off your tin foil hat bro. AD is in the middle of the score board. DC wants to keep you down, and EP wants to get ahead. Get over yourself. This happens to any faction in the middle.Sometimes it's 2nd and 3rd place going after 1st. That's the reason for 3 faction PvP.
I wasn't talking about just being pushed by both factions at the same time, I expect that. I was talking about EP and DC fighting at the same keep, literally standing side by side. I appreciate your insight bro. I wonder if I'll get a forum ban if I call you bro-tarded-
Confirmed Casual
- Templar DC- Zee Taggs
- Templar EP- Zoola
- Templar AD- Old Zoola
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We ended up taking back most of the map last night before I fell asleep on the keyboard finally . The good people of the Dominion fought hard . Big thanks to all the guilds that organized for Us .1 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zoola, this kind of stuff is the result of no faction loyalty. Ad at one time benefited from a guild that had no faction loyalty and faction swapped. The result is people made friends in other factions And call in favors from those friendships in the war. Isn't it fairly obvious? And the reason may have simply been they wanted the keep for some other purpose.0 -
Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
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kadar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I fight with other factions all the time. Other factions fight with me.
Last night I got attacked by 2 DC. 2 AD gankers popped up and targeted the DC. After the 3 of us had killed the DC, we fought it out.0 -
Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I find it odd that players are looking for an explanation that relates to the campaign score. It's all about AP.
AD was the first dominant faction. When that was established close to launch, many hyper-competitive players from EP and DC rerolled AD.
When AD's top PVP guild, DiE rerolled EP, many hyper-competitive players from AD and DC followed. This resulted in the most lopsided PVP in ESO's history for the full duration of 1.5. There was no competitive bona fide AvA for months. Instead, we had an unending farm. This is why EP has so many high ranking players.
From 1.6 to 2.2, DC became fashionable and the faction hoppers went there next.
IMO, the aftermath of this left AD with the greatest ratio of casual and ungrouped/unguilded "random" players. The EP and DC who appear to collude are probably just looking for the best farming opportunities.
I'm not being critical of objective play. I love objective-based gameplay. It's the only kind of PVP I really enjoy. Farming and dueling alone are boring to me. But the reality is that at an individual level, a playstyle focused on earning AP provides the greatest benefits and that's what most PVP enthusiasts (the ones who play the most with the best builds and gear) are actually interested in.
lul.Joy_Division wrote: »Zoola!
EP has come is last place - by a lot - for what seems like forever now. If we are cooperating with DC and reviving the so-called purple alliance, then we suck even more than the last place score would indicate.
As a fairly frequent regular who logs on EP, I will tell you what is a typical routine night entails.- Oh, look DC has Chalman. Again. What a surprise.
- Random calls in zone chat saying take chalman.
- 15 people show up to chalman, get wiped bu 50 DC defenders.
- Hey, look at the Bridge, let's go there and have some fun!
- ****Stays there for 2 hours because wiping at Chalman is no fun and no AP*****
- DC get bored waiting at Chalman, either come to bridge or see all the AD @ Bridge and attack Roe/Faregyl.
- Purple Alliance in effect!
You forgot one thing: If EP leaves the bridge, AD will immediately swarm Sej and BRK.
And what, if AD goes to defend against DC you think EP will wait patiently or move north? It's better when AD has sej because it stops the endless bridge fighting that just sucks so many people into it that both factions end up suffering score wise.No EP guild is coordinating with DC. Most all EP guilds spend most of their time up north fighting cause with the exception of when Fantasia is running AD does not have much to offer besides pug hordes in the Alessia bridge to brk Corridor to fight. I know CoH and others are around they just don't run when PM does.
How do you explain the PM multiple raid zergs that show up at alessia, fare, black boot every single night.1 -
pcar944✭✭✭✭should say that , all alliances have a lot of ungrouped people , since I am DC I am a part of the problem myself
but DC pugs are the best pugsOne Tamriel killed PVP
DC Magicka Orc Necromancer climbing those ranks ...0 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
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Not at all. Something about dying to siege at Alessia front door is just an irresistible draw to much of EP. Have you tried turning off the porch light to attract fewer pugs?
Yes, if AD and EP spent a little less time on each other DC wouldn't be so consistently dominant. But AFAICT, none of the major EP guilds give a rip about the map or the score. E.G., PM farming at Bloodmayne when Chal is blue.0 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Oceanic Time updates. Unfortunately, daylight's savings has made it nearly impossible to put together previous groups. But we still show up and do our best. Night started off with Yellow owning everything but Chal and Aleswell. And everything was quiet on the front. So we knocked down the Ash front gate and as we worked on the inner, the Yellow's came pouring out of everywhere. And pushed us out. Same thing happened around Nickel. The Yellow numbers/forces were strong.
Eventually, RAM logged on and took Glade. And a long battle ensued with RAM eventually being defeated. But during the fight, Yellow's took both Chal and Arrius. So Blue rushed to Aleswell to defend the last remaining Emp keep. And the battle in and around Aleswell was one to go down in the history books. Truly epic. And the numbers that Yellow had on the field was incredible. But Blue is resilient when pushed to the wall, and we defended well. Blue also had many numbers, but we still bathed in a glorious 15k tick.
It's been a while since I've enjoyed such a long, epic battle like last night. It was truly fun. Big thanks to Yellow for bringing such fights to blues. RAM, Haiku wo Yome, Noc, World Boss, and the others. And big high fives to Blues for staying strong. TKG, Wormhole, Rats, and others.2 -
NACtron✭✭✭✭✭I find it odd that players are looking for an explanation that relates to the campaign score. It's all about AP.
AD was the first dominant faction. When that was established close to launch, many hyper-competitive players from EP and DC rerolled AD.
When AD's top PVP guild, DiE rerolled EP, many hyper-competitive players from AD and DC followed. This resulted in the most lopsided PVP in ESO's history for the full duration of 1.5. There was no competitive bona fide AvA for months. Instead, we had an unending farm. This is why EP has so many high ranking players.
From 1.6 to 2.2, DC became fashionable and the faction hoppers went there next.
IMO, the aftermath of this left AD with the greatest ratio of casual and ungrouped/unguilded "random" players. The EP and DC who appear to collude are probably just looking for the best farming opportunities.
I'm not being critical of objective play. I love objective-based gameplay. It's the only kind of PVP I really enjoy. Farming and dueling alone are boring to me. But the reality is that at an individual level, a playstyle focused on earning AP provides the greatest benefits and that's what most PVP enthusiasts (the ones who play the most with the best builds and gear) are actually interested in.
lul.Joy_Division wrote: »Zoola!
EP has come is last place - by a lot - for what seems like forever now. If we are cooperating with DC and reviving the so-called purple alliance, then we suck even more than the last place score would indicate.
As a fairly frequent regular who logs on EP, I will tell you what is a typical routine night entails.- Oh, look DC has Chalman. Again. What a surprise.
- Random calls in zone chat saying take chalman.
- 15 people show up to chalman, get wiped bu 50 DC defenders.
- Hey, look at the Bridge, let's go there and have some fun!
- ****Stays there for 2 hours because wiping at Chalman is no fun and no AP*****
- DC get bored waiting at Chalman, either come to bridge or see all the AD @ Bridge and attack Roe/Faregyl.
- Purple Alliance in effect!
You forgot one thing: If EP leaves the bridge, AD will immediately swarm Sej and BRK.
And what, if AD goes to defend against DC you think EP will wait patiently or move north? It's better when AD has sej because it stops the endless bridge fighting that just sucks so many people into it that both factions end up suffering score wise.No EP guild is coordinating with DC. Most all EP guilds spend most of their time up north fighting cause with the exception of when Fantasia is running AD does not have much to offer besides pug hordes in the Alessia bridge to brk Corridor to fight. I know CoH and others are around they just don't run when PM does.
How do you explain the PM multiple raid zergs that show up at alessia, fare, black boot every single night.
Let me give one example as to why you may find PM raids hitting you when you are pushing Glade. The other nnight AD had taken Ash and glade. Having a serious fight over bleakers with K-hole and some DC pugs and losing we wanted to go back and retake it. When we saw what AD had done we figured it would be a good time to retake bleakers and then take Aleswell. Unfortunately while we were in the process of doing this the some Ad guilds helped the AD pug horde break through Alessia bridge and managed to take sej and brk. This forced us to come south and fight for Alessia and other AD keeps.
While this is just one example this has happened countless times. The funny thing is that DC is always pushing AD cause they lost home keeps in this common scenario as well. Resulting in a good old fashioned team purple. Reap what you sow.
I'm not really thrilled about DC being in first and I prefer fighting them except for when Fantaisa is up. (Which is sadly less often this days) But when AD is pushing us you better bet we will respond. If you want to focus DC go for it but you better actually learn to focus on them.
Edited by NACtron on November 3, 2016 1:51AMPact Militia GM
Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar2
