Uppercut seem so useless

Twohothardware

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Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

I'm all for Vigor being removed because everthing about it is a stupid reason why it's in the game. A universal healing ability that works on any build and is better than all the other healing options outside of a Magplar makes no sense from a balance standpoint. If they just did away with it and buffed the actual healing abilities on StamDK and Stamblade it would be a lot better.

Strider_Roshin

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Xvorg wrote: »

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danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

I'm all for Vigor being removed because everthing about it is a stupid reason why it's in the game. A universal healing ability that works on any build and is better than all the other healing options outside of a Magplar makes no sense from a balance standpoint. If they just did away with it and buffed the actual healing abilities on StamDK and Stamblade it would be a lot better.

Vigor needs a buff. If magicka can DPS better than stamina, tank just as good as stamina, then stamina should be able to heal just as good as magicka. And I have yet to see any stamina healers in trials. You magicka players love to whine if there's a single advantage stamina has that you don't, but refuse to acknowledge or share your advantages.

The reason wrecking blow was nerfed is due to whiney magicka players, the reason why bone shield is STILL useless is due to whiney magicka players. Magicka players whined forever over the fact that stamina has a 1 piece stam regen, but now that you have one as well, no one uses it. Magicka players cry saying that stamina is OP in PvP, and yet if this dueling has taught us anything it's that magicka is on equal footing if not better in the dueling scene. The magicka community whined about the 2H ultimate being OP during the PTS, and the destro being garbage, and the 2H ultimate turned out being the worst of them all, followed by the bow; with the destruction ultimate and resto ultimate being the most powerful.

@Wrobel the magicka community doesn't want balance, they want to be overpowered, and they hate being challenged.

Hey magicka community! Did notice when the witches festival's recipes were released, stamina players were disgruntled and wished for equal treatment in the future, but when the new life recipes were released oh the tears and hashtags about stamina getting overpowered recipes littered the thread even though magicka got BETTER recipes the update prior.

Anti_Virus

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

I'm all for Vigor being removed because everthing about it is a stupid reason why it's in the game. A universal healing ability that works on any build and is better than all the other healing options outside of a Magplar makes no sense from a balance standpoint. If they just did away with it and buffed the actual healing abilities on StamDK and Stamblade it would be a lot better.

Vigor needs a buff. If magicka can DPS better than stamina, tank just as good as stamina, then stamina should be able to heal just as good as magicka. And I have yet to see any stamina healers in trials. You magicka players love to whine if there's a single advantage stamina has that you don't, but refuse to acknowledge or share your advantages.

The reason wrecking blow was nerfed is due to whiney magicka players, the reason why bone shield is STILL useless is due to whiney magicka players. Magicka players whined forever over the fact that stamina has a 1 piece stam regen, but now that you have one as well, no one uses it. Magicka players cry saying that stamina is OP in PvP, and yet if this dueling has taught us anything it's that magicka is on equal footing if not better in the dueling scene. The magicka community whined about the 2H ultimate being OP during the PTS, and the destro being garbage, and the 2H ultimate turned out being the worst of them all, followed by the bow; with the destruction ultimate and resto ultimate being the most powerful.

@Wrobel the magicka community doesn't want balance, they want to be overpowered, and they hate being challenged.

Hey magicka community! Did notice when the witches festival's recipes were released, stamina players were disgruntled and wished for equal treatment in the future, but when the new life recipes were released oh the tears and hashtags about stamina getting overpowered recipes littered the thread even though magicka got BETTER recipes the update prior.

This, is awesome.

Magicka doen't want balance they want to be OP again Zos literally buffs stamina to be equal with magicka and it's the end of the world.

Xvorg

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

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danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

I'm all for Vigor being removed because everthing about it is a stupid reason why it's in the game. A universal healing ability that works on any build and is better than all the other healing options outside of a Magplar makes no sense from a balance standpoint. If they just did away with it and buffed the actual healing abilities on StamDK and Stamblade it would be a lot better.

Vigor needs a buff. If magicka can DPS better than stamina, tank just as good as stamina, then stamina should be able to heal just as good as magicka. And I have yet to see any stamina healers in trials. You magicka players love to whine if there's a single advantage stamina has that you don't, but refuse to acknowledge or share your advantages.

The reason wrecking blow was nerfed is due to whiney magicka players, the reason why bone shield is STILL useless is due to whiney magicka players. Magicka players whined forever over the fact that stamina has a 1 piece stam regen, but now that you have one as well, no one uses it. Magicka players cry saying that stamina is OP in PvP, and yet if this dueling has taught us anything it's that magicka is on equal footing if not better in the dueling scene. The magicka community whined about the 2H ultimate being OP during the PTS, and the destro being garbage, and the 2H ultimate turned out being the worst of them all, followed by the bow; with the destruction ultimate and resto ultimate being the most powerful.

@Wrobel the magicka community doesn't want balance, they want to be overpowered, and they hate being challenged.

Hey magicka community! Did notice when the witches festival's recipes were released, stamina players were disgruntled and wished for equal treatment in the future, but when the new life recipes were released oh the tears and hashtags about stamina getting overpowered recipes littered the thread even though magicka got BETTER recipes the update prior.

Tell me just one skill available for every single build that heals you without having to change your weapon for one that's inferior in terms of DPS and has no buff associated.

Stam can slot vigor in the 2h/DW/SnB and bow bar without losing DPS skills. Magicka changes to healing staff and is forced to play defensively to recover health, which makes you an easy prey for CC

Twohothardware

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

I'm all for Vigor being removed because everthing about it is a stupid reason why it's in the game. A universal healing ability that works on any build and is better than all the other healing options outside of a Magplar makes no sense from a balance standpoint. If they just did away with it and buffed the actual healing abilities on StamDK and Stamblade it would be a lot better.

Vigor needs a buff. If magicka can DPS better than stamina, tank just as good as stamina, then stamina should be able to heal just as good as magicka. And I have yet to see any stamina healers in trials. You magicka players love to whine if there's a single advantage stamina has that you don't, but refuse to acknowledge or share your advantages.

The reason wrecking blow was nerfed is due to whiney magicka players, the reason why bone shield is STILL useless is due to whiney magicka players. Magicka players whined forever over the fact that stamina has a 1 piece stam regen, but now that you have one as well, no one uses it. Magicka players cry saying that stamina is OP in PvP, and yet if this dueling has taught us anything it's that magicka is on equal footing if not better in the dueling scene. The magicka community whined about the 2H ultimate being OP during the PTS, and the destro being garbage, and the 2H ultimate turned out being the worst of them all, followed by the bow; with the destruction ultimate and resto ultimate being the most powerful.

@Wrobel the magicka community doesn't want balance, they want to be overpowered, and they hate being challenged.

Hey magicka community! Did notice when the witches festival's recipes were released, stamina players were disgruntled and wished for equal treatment in the future, but when the new life recipes were released oh the tears and hashtags about stamina getting overpowered recipes littered the thread even though magicka got BETTER recipes the update prior.

Vigor shouldn't be in the game or it should do something different than it does. Stam builds should be using the healing abilities on their class and the weak ones like Dragon Blood for the StamDK need to be buffed. Vigor is too easy to use and gives too much of an advantage over any stamina build that doesn't have it which forces everyone into grinding PvP even if they're only a PvE player.

charley222

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charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

you are so out topic here , i speak about the 2 hand skill tree , not class and role , and now you are in your exp group ????? , btw do you really think i care to be in your group come on wake up , i say the main skill in the 2 hand skill tree is very useless vs good player in pvp , so your comment about your group and class is so far out topic