Uppercut seem so useless

charley222

2 to hand main attack Uppercut look so pointless in pvp , you get always roll or worst block and easy counter or player just move a bit and the animation is break
i think is going to be so much better to remove the casting delay for any melee ,and drop the dps np , melee already work so hard to close the distance and take damage ,and what ? now melee have casting delay come-on , this game have a lot of potential , but the problem is the combat design is very average
.plz remove this stupid casting delay is not so hard , to rebalance one skill , i never see any 2 hand make Maelstrom , this just show how physical melee suck
, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

Anti_Virus

I think I understand what you are talking about but right now 2h is not the meta dps weapon I don't know what Zos can do to make it better but hopefully in the future all weapons can be competitive in all aspects of the game

Strider_Roshin

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

br0steen

I remember when this move was "OP", people were upset and hated "wrecking blow spammers".
I still use dizzying swing, it just takes more skill to connect with someone on it now, up its still a good move...

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Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Anti_Virus

br0steen wrote: »

I remember when this move was "OP", people were upset and hated "wrecking blow spammers".
I still use dizzying swing, it just takes more skill to connect with someone on it now, up its still a good move...

The only thing Wrecking blow had was the knock up but now that's gone, I hope people are not complaining about Dizzying swing now.

charley222

br0steen wrote: »

I remember when this move was "OP", people were upset and hated "wrecking blow spammers".
I still use dizzying swing, it just takes more skill to connect with someone on it now, up its still a good move...

sorry dude nothing bad here
you just miss so much experience in this game

is not question to have skill or not , wrecking blow just waste so much dps , my 2 hand NB never use wrecking blow but Surprise Attack , and my DK have any quick damage ,not choice i`m stuck it (DoT) Venomous Claws , btw i`m not a fan of this guy but have any choice to be agree 100% on this old video , still good because is still the same issue today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYylSf_NOE
for me eso the dk =the warrior same for nb the thief or assassin's
and is so worng the warrior make dps using poison (DoT) and the nb have the bust damage . i guess is the world in world inverse , just a terrible combat desing that why they change dk for (DoT) posion Oo but still is not right

danno8

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

subtlezeroub17_ESO

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

To be fair, every class has stamina morphs to complement the stam play style.

NBs and Templars even have stamina spammables that replace weapon spammables.

So stam diversity is actually higher than magicka. Magicka classes have class spells and destruction spells. Thats it.

charley222

this game have huge potencial but because combat designer just dont have any clue what they doing , this game stay a good casual game , most animation are fine the lore of eso is great , but combat fail not because the game is design for console and you only have 5 or 6 skill , but more because the game suffer of balance issue ,

Anti_Virus

danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Xvorg

Anti_Virus wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

Anti_Virus

Xvorg wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

No I mean the dmg of 2h, right now they are best used as buff weapons.

driosketch

danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

I mean, that's less to do with 2H being any good and more about maximizing a proc meta build.

salmoncat33

It's funny I was just reading a couple forums about getting 2h to count as 2 set pieces and half the people there said 2h was op and the meta... very strange I'm not seeing that here. Conspiracy me thinks.

Xvorg

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Uppercut has always been a terrible move unless you're fighting a garbage player, and yet due to all the whining from the magicka community on the forums they nerfed a move that was already underwhelming. Personally I think this move needed a buff, and ZOS nerfed it. I feel bad for the players that actually enjoyed using this move.

This is the main problem with the game for me, there is no weapon build diversity in this game.
For stam the only weapons you can use effectively is:

DW or SnB, I like sword and shield but I wish it had a dps skill I don't like animation canceling.

For PVE it's: DW

The lack of weapon diversity in builds in this game is depressing. Other MMOs have it down packed.

Down pat is the phrase FYI.

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Thanks for the correction, and yeah 2H, and Bow need something to bring them on par with DW

Isn't crit rush the stronger gap closer in the game?
Doesn't rally provides major brut and a HoT?

I think the problem with 2h is not that the weapon can compete with DW and S/B, the problem is the root of all problems in this game: Vigor. Take out vigor from the game and everything improves...

No I mean the dmg of 2h, right now they are best used as buff weapons.

2h was useful before vigor was introduced because it was a heal that needed no special requirements to be casted. Then ZoS gaves us vigor and everything changed

Nevertheless, there's at least one small change I think could help 2h. Follow Up (rank 30 pasive) shoud proc on heavy attack and not on full heavy attack

acw37162

Not six months ago these forums were awash with thread after thread asking for a wrecking blow nerf and how powerful it was.

Yada, yada, Yada they separate them empower from the CC and all of the sudden it sucks.

Gilvoth

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

charley222

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

Gilvoth

.

yeah, heres the thing

templar = healer class
dragonight = Tank class
nightblade = damage dealer
sorc = damage dealer

thats the way it was designed and thats the way it still is even today.

the situation with the 2 hander doing less damage is because it was abused and drove into the ground by alot of people.
they nerfed it. and im glad they did. it is still a good weapon and can be used by anyone, but in pvp it is not as terrible as it was.
you can still use it as a dragonight and still do mass damage in both pve and pvp. just have to spam it and set stats to do max damage. there are sets that will increase the damage you do with 2 hand weapons.

mtwiggz

That is a a lot of sad faces.

Anti_Virus

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

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yeah, heres the thing

templar = healer class and dps and tank
dragonight = Tank class
nightblade = damage dealer
sorc = damage dealer and tank

thats the way it was designed and thats the way it still is even today.

the situation with the 2 hander doing less damage is because it was abused and drove into the ground by alot of people.
they nerfed it. and im glad they did. it is still a good weapon and can be used by anyone, but in pvp it is not as terrible as it was.
you can still use it as a dragonight and still do mass damage in both pve and pvp. just have to spam it and set stats to do max damage. there are sets that will increase the damage you do with 2 hand weapons.

FTFY

Edziu

charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

Destruent

Edziu wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

What content are you talking about? No content is so hard, you desperately need a DK-tank....

Edziu

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

What content are you talking about? No content is so hard, you desperately need a DK-tank....

any dung, vDSA etc, vet trials are known for all I think is here only dk viable as tank

EDIT: yes, all can tank dungs etc but they will never equal to dk with group buffs to dmg, some more survivability etc

Destruent

Edziu wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

What content are you talking about? No content is so hard, you desperately need a DK-tank....

any dung, vDSA etc, vet trials are known for all I think is here only dk viable as tank

EDIT: yes, all can tank dungs etc but they will never equal to dk with group buffs to dmg, some more survivability etc

Which buffs to dmg do you get from DK? Which group buffs do you get? Survivability ok...but that doesn't exclude other tanks, you can build any class for survivability (which isn't needed that much at all tbh).

Edziu

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

What content are you talking about? No content is so hard, you desperately need a DK-tank....

any dung, vDSA etc, vet trials are known for all I think is here only dk viable as tank

EDIT: yes, all can tank dungs etc but they will never equal to dk with group buffs to dmg, some more survivability etc

Which buffs to dmg do you get from DK? Which group buffs do you get? Survivability ok...but that doesn't exclude other tanks, you can build any class for survivability (which isn't needed that much at all tbh).

1 BiS skill

igneous weapons

no waste pots for easy dungs not worth it and no need use 2h only for rally or power extraction on dmg for buff or flying blade which will some lower your dps because it have short time duration and need damn hit target to activate buff

Destruent

Edziu wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

What content are you talking about? No content is so hard, you desperately need a DK-tank....

any dung, vDSA etc, vet trials are known for all I think is here only dk viable as tank

EDIT: yes, all can tank dungs etc but they will never equal to dk with group buffs to dmg, some more survivability etc

Which buffs to dmg do you get from DK? Which group buffs do you get? Survivability ok...but that doesn't exclude other tanks, you can build any class for survivability (which isn't needed that much at all tbh).

1 BiS skill

igneous weapons

no waste pots for easy dungs not worth it and no need use 2h only for rally or power extraction on dmg for buff or flying blade which will some lower your dps because it have short time duration and need damn hit target to activate buff

I usually do dungeons without major sorcery/brutality bc it's not needed at all...why do you need that extra dmg for easy dungeons? The damage loss for not using the buff or using rally/entropy/whatever isn't that big at all.
And for hard content you want all DPS/healers to use spellpower/weppower potions and noone uses igneous, bc as a tank you can slot a better skill than that one.

but anyway...this is about uppercut, not about non-dk-tanking ^^

Edziu

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

charley222 wrote: »

, dk the big fail warrior of eso have any strong physical attack, this is why now they convert him to poison warrior just terrible combat desing
the big warrior of eso make poison dps , and the thief or assassin's NB make the big physical dps using oO Surprise Attack this just make sense thank you

dragonight class is meant to "tank" tanks are not suppose to be the big damage dealers.
nightblades are suppose to be damage dealers. not suppose to be able to tank and cannot handle damage. they die easily. not created to fight toe-to-toe and do very well like dragonights can.

people are confused thinking that dragonights are a warrior class, they are not a warrior, they are a tank class. [sorry]

any sense first tank is not a class because every class are able to be tank lol , tank is a role or play style
and the best tank in this game is not the dk but the 70k health templar using blazing shield
funny how some user are so far out oO

if you will tank in my exp group as non dk I will kick you instantly because of not skills from dk supporting group + is much muhc better as tank and good dk no need to much healer help in some harder content

What content are you talking about? No content is so hard, you desperately need a DK-tank....

any dung, vDSA etc, vet trials are known for all I think is here only dk viable as tank

EDIT: yes, all can tank dungs etc but they will never equal to dk with group buffs to dmg, some more survivability etc

Which buffs to dmg do you get from DK? Which group buffs do you get? Survivability ok...but that doesn't exclude other tanks, you can build any class for survivability (which isn't needed that much at all tbh).

1 BiS skill

igneous weapons

no waste pots for easy dungs not worth it and no need use 2h only for rally or power extraction on dmg for buff or flying blade which will some lower your dps because it have short time duration and need damn hit target to activate buff

I usually do dungeons without major sorcery/brutality bc it's not needed at all...why do you need that extra dmg for easy dungeons? The damage loss for not using the buff or using rally/entropy/whatever isn't that big at all.
And for hard content you want all DPS/healers to use spellpower/weppower potions and noone uses igneous, bc as a tank you can slot a better skill than that one.

but anyway...this is about uppercut, not about non-dk-tanking ^^

cuz, boss with 5-7m hp etc, a bit long so why dont kill him faster and why I shoul slack with dps without this buff...and at all ye, we some went down from topic xD

cschwingeb14_ESO

"danno8 wrote: »

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Way to compare a crappy 2h attack chain with a double proc set.

2h has no spamable, it's true. But:

Light/heavy attack (proc viper) (animation cancel), Dizzy, Bash, Reverse Slice.

And if at any time Velidreth's procs in there, it's lights out for the target before reverse slice.

But the real problem with Dizzying swing is that there are many less magicka builds out there. Everyone has the stamina necessary to block or dodge an obvious attack.

danno8

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

"danno8 wrote: »

The big problem with 2H is that it takes up to 3 seconds to kill someone (Dizzying, Dizzying, Executioner). Who would do that when they can do it in 1 second with:

Light/heavy attack (proc vipers) <ani cancel>, Puncture (proc Tremorscale) <ani cancel>, Bash.

15-25k damage in 1 global cooldown. 2H can't compete with that. Nothing can in truth.

Way to compare a crappy 2h attack chain with a double proc set.

2h has no spamable, it's true. But:

Light/heavy attack (proc viper) (animation cancel), Dizzy, Bash, Reverse Slice.

And if at any time Velidreth's procs in there, it's lights out for the target before reverse slice.

But the real problem with Dizzying swing is that there are many less magicka builds out there. Everyone has the stamina necessary to block or dodge an obvious attack.

The cast time on Dizzying though is enough to get out of the way/defend yourself. Honestly the difference is huge comparing something that hits all at once and something that takes an extra second to hit.

Add to that the ability to be holding down block the whole time and the winner is clear.

The meta: