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Trap beast

Syiccal
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Why is trap beast banned in tournaments and what makes it so gd in pvp I thought it was mainly a pve skill

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  • Kelces
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    Roots are hell plus does high damage. And you can spam it so you can have more than one trap. So as soon as you get off one trap, you fall into another. Cheesiest ability tbh

    Interesting. Think about what would happen, if volcanic rune worked the same way...

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  • Syiccal
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    When you put down a second trap for example doesn't that get rid of the first 1?
    I currently use eternal hunt and just wondering if would combine well
    Edited by Syiccal on October 27, 2016 5:46AM
  • DannyLV702
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    When you put down a second trap for example doesn't that get rid of the first 1?
    I currently use eternal hunt and just wondering if would combine well

    It should but once it activates you can just place a second one. It's so stupid
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  • Abob
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    Beasts don't like being trapped.
  • Beardimus
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    Volcanic Rune should however give the bonus Crit damage, its an anomalies for Magika users to need a Stamina FG skill now really.
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  • CapuchinSeven
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    Ugh, "this is banded, that is band, I don't like this so that's band". And people wounder why I keep declining duel requests.

    +1 for a Kris Kross video though!

    EDIT - thinking about it I swapped it out for Bombard the other day and a better time controlling with it.
    Edited by CapuchinSeven on October 27, 2016 8:57AM
  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    I like fighting Stam users with it, it’s fun to try to keep check on where they placed it. My Necropendance wards make short work of it, and the incoming Dizzying Swing.

    I notice people will camp them, so if someone tends to want to go over to specific place, I won’t follow. Can imagine it being a pain for those of you who are strictly close quarters though.
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  • Kas
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    lmao, who bans that? not saying it isn't strong, even too strong in comparison to many others, but if there is one big problem with high-quality duels, it's most of them becoming endless. whoever bans purely offensive stuff like this, or sets like fasallas, is at fault for a failed tournament that is 10% fights and 90% bitching / drama in chat about judge decisions. personally, i'd even allow damage resource poisons but w/e.

    nobody wants judge decisions but as long as some people push their agendas (I don't want to / can use X for this and that reason but I have lost against X at some point, let's ban X!). Further many people complain about stam sorcs but then ban everything that interacts well with purge (which stamsorcs just cannot really get).

    on topic: it's a high-damage skill, works as delayed damage (more pressue within a given time window) and applies a root which is also a very strong effect
    Edited by Kas on October 27, 2016 10:19AM
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  • Waffennacht
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    Kas wrote: »
    lmao, who bans that? not saying it isn't strong, even too strong in comparison to many others, but if there is one big problem with high-quality duels, it's most of them becoming endless. whoever bans purely offensive stuff like this, or sets like fasallas, is at fault for a failed tournament that is 10% fights and 90% bitching / drama in chat about judge decisions. personally, i'd even allow damage resource poisons but w/e.

    nobody wants judge decisions but as long as some people push their agendas (I don't want to / can use X for this and that reason but I have lost against X at some point, let's ban X!). Further many people complain about stam sorcs but then ban everything that interacts well with purge (which stamsorcs just cannot really get).

    on topic: it's a high-damage skill, works as delayed damage (more pressue within a given time window) and applies a root which is also a very strong effect

    Everyone says it's strong..,

    Except da l33ts.

    Lmfao at it's size, purge, etc, No reason to be banned
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  • DocFrost72
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    If it isn't a light attack or RP clothing, you best believe someone will try to make sure case for banning it.
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  • danno8
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    If it isn't a light attack or RP clothing, you best believe someone will try to make sure case for banning it.

    Considering a light attack can proc a poison, which procs another proc, they mey be banned next. :D
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    If someone want to ban trap beast from a dual, really you can just tell them they are bad and walk away.
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    Templar's are evil..
  • HoloYoitsu
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    If someone want to ban trap beast from a dual, really you can just tell them they are bad and walk away.
    Sypher wrote: »
    Where: Twitch.tv/Sypherpk


    RULES:
    - CRAFTED SETS ONLY (jewlery is open to whatever)
    - No Maelstrom weapons, Master Weapons, Undaunted Gear, PvP Gear, PvE Gear
    - No HEAVY ARMOR (not even one piece)
    - Banned Abilities (currently) - Trap Beast, Soul Strike, One hand and shield ultimate
    - No CP changing No gear changing No ability changing (unless instructed to do so)
    - Only potions allowed are Single Stat, Tri-stat, and Spell/Weapon Power
    - No Immovable Potions / Detect Potions / Lingering Health Potions
    - NO TANK BUILDS (OR YOU WILL GET MADE FUN OF)
    - NO COSTUMES (so we can see your gear)
    :smirk:
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  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    If someone want to ban trap beast from a dual, really you can just tell them they are bad and walk away.
    Sypher wrote: »
    Where: Twitch.tv/Sypherpk


    RULES:
    - CRAFTED SETS ONLY (jewlery is open to whatever)
    - No Maelstrom weapons, Master Weapons, Undaunted Gear, PvP Gear, PvE Gear
    - No HEAVY ARMOR (not even one piece)
    - Banned Abilities (currently) - Trap Beast, Soul Strike, One hand and shield ultimate
    - No CP changing No gear changing No ability changing (unless instructed to do so)
    - Only potions allowed are Single Stat, Tri-stat, and Spell/Weapon Power
    - No Immovable Potions / Detect Potions / Lingering Health Potions
    - NO TANK BUILDS (OR YOU WILL GET MADE FUN OF)
    - NO COSTUMES (so we can see your gear)
    :smirk:

    What a scrub he is. This is why I never do tournaments.
  • a1i3nz
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    U guys seriously would disagree with banning trap beast from duels?

    This really has become elder scrubs online
  • WhiteMage
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    I find trap beast very annoying. Anything I never encounter in open world PvP being used in a duel just irks me for some reason. If someone insists on camping their trap beast to lure me into it I walk 20 meters away from them and spam RD until they come to me. Believe it or not, I have actuallly killed people doing this because they refused to step away from their trap.

    It's also fun when proc set users whine at me for using LoS.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    If someone want to ban trap beast from a dual, really you can just tell them they are bad and walk away.
    Sypher wrote: »
    Where: Twitch.tv/Sypherpk


    RULES:
    - CRAFTED SETS ONLY (jewlery is open to whatever)
    - No Maelstrom weapons, Master Weapons, Undaunted Gear, PvP Gear, PvE Gear
    - No HEAVY ARMOR (not even one piece)[/b]
    - Banned Abilities (currently) - Trap Beast, Soul Strike, One hand and shield ultimate
    - No CP changing No gear changing No ability changing (unless instructed to do so)
    - Only potions allowed are Single Stat, Tri-stat, and Spell/Weapon Power
    - No Immovable Potions / Detect Potions / Lingering Health Potions
    - NO TANK BUILDS (OR YOU WILL GET MADE FUN OF)
    - NO COSTUMES (so we can see your gear)
    :smirk:

    LMAO

    Yeah and that is a pathetic list, it starts with crafted sets only, and no Heavy armor not one piece. GTFO with that garbage.
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    Templar's are evil..
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    My dual rules:

    No hats
    no pants
    only fists unless you have a prosperous maelstrom bow.
    Legendary Archer of Valenwood
    Bosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Templar's are evil..
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Eso community... trap beast makes duels unfun for any melee player not using it since the other will just camp his trap, makes shuffle a requirement (equally bad for gameplay) and is glitchy. Anyone using that in duels must be very desperate and is probably not a very skilled player.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Legendary Archer of Valenwood
    Bosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Templar's are evil..
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Dude, I know that site since i was playing scbw in tournaments 20 years ago. Difference is Sirlin (a former starcraft & fighting game player) was referring to balanced games where the playing field was even enough to hold official tournaments on (korean leagues & stuff).

    Get your info and facts straight, young one.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Eso community... trap beast makes duels unfun for any melee player not using it since the other will just camp his trap, makes shuffle a requirement (equally bad for gameplay) and is glitchy. Anyone using that in duels must be very desperate and is probably not a very skilled player.

    Eso community: Snipe makes the game unfun...WB makes the game unfun...Sneaking makes the game unfun...breath of life makes the game unfun...Poison Injection makes the game unfun...Crystal Frag makes the game unfun...Blocking makes the game unfun...Shields make the game unfun....Dodge rolling makes the game unfun....Shuffle makes the game unfun...Surpise Attack makes the game unfun...Impulse makes the game unfun...Magicka Det makes the game unfun...


    Eso Community: ANYTHING THAT KILLS ME MAKES THE GAME UNFUN
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    Bosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Templar's are evil..
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Yet to have any trouble killing someone using trap beast. Perhaps you need to up your game.
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    Bosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Templar's are evil..
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Where did i say that? Can u even read?

    Eso is not a game balanced enough to apply sirlin. You are making yourself a clown.
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  • Abob
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    @Toc de Malsvi I've become your fan.
  • Lava_Croft
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    The larger the scrub, the larger the list of banned things.
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  • Cathexis
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    Where did i say that? Can u even read?

    Eso is not a game balanced enough to apply sirlin. You are making yourself a clown.

    No standing around applying garbage rules to put yourself in a position where you're style of play is at an advantage is making yourself a clown.

    And yes I can read, your argument is essentially its unfun because a player will camp his/her trap.... how is that a problem? It is a DOT and a root, it hits for significantly less damage than Sorc mines, it cannot burst you, you can literally walk into it and suffer little harm. Not that you need to, unless you have styled your entire build around being melee and must there for stand on top of your opponent to hurt them.

    I have to agree with the idea that banning abilities just reinforces personal preference. I mean you can practically one hit someone with a light attack with procs, why is that not banned? No heavy armor? No tank builds? This sounds list sounds like someone just wants things easy mode. And how do you define a tank build? Being unkillable? There are lots of high damage builds that dont use heavy or arent focused on tanking that are able to absorb damage very well. The line of what constitutes a tank isnt so cut and dry.

    What gets me even more about that list is no soul strike or detect pots. Ive fought some nightblades who are literally impossible to kill short of having overwhelmingly high burst damage, because they will repeatedly stealth out. Last patch you could use magelight etc but they are dramatically less effective this patch and all offensive stealth abilities are reactionary.

    To top it off, classes have vastly different AND disproportionate universal buffs (templars get major mending for example, and nightblades have access to just about every buff under the sun in class abilities).

    That said, if your going to run a tournament, you can make whatever rules you want, but you may just end up pushing away contenders who wont agree.
    Edited by Cathexis on November 6, 2016 3:12AM
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