Skyrim

JohnnyQuantum

New ESO player (around 6 months), and have not played Skyrim. With news of the remastered edition of Skyrim, do people recommend it? Or stick with ESO, at least until I have explored all of it?

Are the two games very different?

andreasranasen

I've been an ESO player since it came out on Console and never played Skyrim... I am a little afraid of this whole first person mode in this remastered Skyrim version. I'm so used to 3rd person view. I think first person looks extremely ugly imo.

Bossdonut

andreasranasen wrote: »

I've been an ESO player since it came out on Console and never played Skyrim... I am a little afraid of this whole first person mode in this remastered Skyrim version. I'm so used to 3rd person view. I think first person looks extremely ugly imo.

Unless I missed a detail, skyrim can be played in 3rd person. I wouldn't recommend ranged weapons in 3rd person however, I think the cross hair was off.

AzraelKrieg

Can't really compare them since they are two different beasts. Nevertheless, I picked up the original Skyrim on a whim having never played an Elder Scrolls title before and enjoyed it a lot.

Stoopid_Nwah

I will always recommend morrowind over skyrim, but that's just my love for the dunmer and for actually having to listen to a set of directions (follow this road until you reach the water then head south, if you reach a bridge you've gone too far sort of stuff) rather than just having a quest marker placed on my map.

But if you're into the lore, all of the es games are great. I would say they are way more immersive than eso.

Akevoriath

I recommend Skyrim, 233 hours on PC and much more on Xbox 360 before that, it's one of my favourite games of all time. I think you'll find it strange at first if you are just coming to it from ESO, the graphics are a little outdated as it was made in 2011 but I think once you start getting into it you will forget that. It's much more in depth than ESO, as an MMO it's hard to become immersed ( at least for me ) but if you enjoy ESO then I think you will probably enjoy Skyrim. I recommend you get the Dawnguard expansion as it actually makes vampires a good thing rather than a bad thing, I loved werewolves until Dawnguard. Hearthfire is good if you enjoy building a house but it takes a while to gather all the materials required to build the wings of the house, Dragonborn was enjoyable too but I didn't really enjoy the landscape that much as I have never played Morrowind so I do not have the nostalgic love of the Dunmer lands. You can also get it on sale on steam for quite cheap as well during some sales like the Christmas sale or summer sale, I've seen it go for $20.00 at some point I think.

Edit: When I say the Dawnguard Expansion makes vampirism a good thing rather than a bad thing, what I mean by that is in my opinion, before dawnguard, vampirism was more of a hindrance than a help, but with Dawnguard, vampirism actually becomes enjoyable (they don't suddenly become the good guys, still the bad guys)

NewBlacksmurf

These are two VERY different games with actually drastically differing developers.

Obvious differences:
-Character models
-most faces are very ugly unless modded extensively (Xbox and PC only)
-single player only that scales very different than ESO
-travel and time frame drastically differ
-much shorter gameplay
-much more variance in how to play your character
-crafting and looting drastically differ


Honestly the list goes on and on....the only things that are similar are the races, constellations, some gods but pretty much everything else is very different. Even combat.

All that being said it was a great game to play years ago. It's definately something to experience for yourself first hand.....but don't expect anything like ESO

kvlou79

/jaw dropped. Yes. Yes, you should play Skyrim. You probably won't come back to ESO afterwards though. Just being honest.

BlackPhillip

Best thing about skyrim are the mods for me. I think the two games play and look the same. I like the the way werewolves looked in skyrim and I like the way the vampires look in ESO. But I think the two vampires are from two different bloodlines and thats why they look different? Not sure.

If you're not planning on modding skyrim I'd just stick with ESO

The_Sadist

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

I will always recommend morrowind over skyrim, but that's just my love for the dunmer and for actually having to listen to a set of directions (follow this road until you reach the water then head south, if you reach a bridge you've gone too far sort of stuff) rather than just having a quest marker placed on my map.

But if you're into the lore, all of the es games are great. I would say they are way more immersive than eso.

I never recommend Morrowind over Skyrim. While I can get over the dated graphics and take time to mod it up a little, the average player won't have the nostalgia glasses we do and will probably find the whole thing lacklustre.

The two games are extremely different, the surrounding lore and style are probably the only similar things. I have both of them and play them depending on my mood, but I don't think you need to play one in order to enjoy the other.

andreasranasen

Bossdonut wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

I've been an ESO player since it came out on Console and never played Skyrim... I am a little afraid of this whole first person mode in this remastered Skyrim version. I'm so used to 3rd person view. I think first person looks extremely ugly imo.

Unless I missed a detail, skyrim can be played in 3rd person. I wouldn't recommend ranged weapons in 3rd person however, I think the cross hair was off.

oh i didn't know this.

NewBlacksmurf

andreasranasen wrote: »

Bossdonut wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

I've been an ESO player since it came out on Console and never played Skyrim... I am a little afraid of this whole first person mode in this remastered Skyrim version. I'm so used to 3rd person view. I think first person looks extremely ugly imo.

Unless I missed a detail, skyrim can be played in 3rd person. I wouldn't recommend ranged weapons in 3rd person however, I think the cross hair was off.

oh i didn't know this.

Huh....how wouldn't you've known this. Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim all have 3rd person.

QUEZ420

Imho Skyrim is easily one of the greatest rpg's of all time. It's an incredible accomplishment from Bethesda with hundreds of hrs on end of enjoyment, as their work is always top tier. I kno many will argue n its completely understandable opinions r opinions, but do urself a favor friend n give it a try, u will not b disappointed.

JKorr

Skyrim is really good; I still play. However as far as side stories go, I think Morrowind had a lot more going for it. My opinion only, of course.

andreasranasen; I can't understand playing in third person. It drives me nuts most of the time. I guess it depends on what you're used to. ES games I'm always in first person. If I'm playing DA:O or Mass Effect, then I can tolerate 3rd person.

SaibotLiu

Morrowind and Oblivion havent aged well at all, if all you know of TES is ESO then yes youll probably like Skyrim. A lot of gaming hipsters of course wouldnt suggest it, because it's a very popular game and that's their job. But it's really a great work of art.

CMFan1966

Skyrim is a wonderful game. You'd never believe the number of hours I put into that game in the last couple of years or so. Playing it helped me stay sane during the long illness and eventual loss of my husband. I've only been playing ESO for a few weeks. They are both exceptional games, but they are different from each other. I agree with the other posters who said that using mods is the way to go. It makes the characters much more appealing to the eye. I don't like to play a heavily modded game, because what's the point if you are going to make it too easy. I mostly used mods that made my characters look better. I used a few of the more 'cheaty' mods, but not many. I think you should go for it and have fun!

SaibotLiu

CMFan1966 wrote: »

Skyrim is a wonderful game. You'd never believe the number of hours I put into that game in the last couple of years or so. Playing it helped me stay sane during the long illness and eventual loss of my husband. I've only been playing ESO for a few weeks. They are both exceptional games, but they are different from each other. I agree with the other posters who said that using mods is the way to go. It makes the characters much more appealing to the eye. I don't like to play a heavily modded game, because what's the point if you are going to make it too easy. I mostly used mods that made my characters look better. I used a few of the more 'cheaty' mods, but not many. I think you should go for it and have fun!

Sorry for your troubles, but welcome to ESO.

CMFan1966

Sorry for your troubles, but welcome to ESO.
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Thank you very much. For both your condolences and your welcome.

FriedEggSandwich

Skyrim is a single player time sink in a very beautiful and immersive world. There isn't any real focus to the gameplay, you just wander about and follow the story that interests you. Combat is very stiff/shallow and can get pretty samey.

ESO is a multiplayer time sink in a slightly less beautiful and immersive world. Other players are a constant distraction whether you want them to be or not. The gameplay has more focus/urgency to it due to the competition added by other players. The combat in ESO was the biggest surprise to me after playing skyrim; frankly it's a lot more skillful and satisfying than the combat in skyrim. It feels more like a brawler or fighing game; you get the feeling you're stringing combos together despite there being no combos in the game. Skyrim combat is just alternating right and left mouse buttons.

To sum up; they are both incredible games that scratch different itches. Skyrim is good when you just wanna be alone with your feelings, ESO is good when you wanna pwn some noobs lol. Skyrim is definitely worth playing but probably not at the same time as eso, unless you have a large appetite for tamriel.

Stoopid_Nwah

The_Sadist wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

I will always recommend morrowind over skyrim, but that's just my love for the dunmer and for actually having to listen to a set of directions (follow this road until you reach the water then head south, if you reach a bridge you've gone too far sort of stuff) rather than just having a quest marker placed on my map.

But if you're into the lore, all of the es games are great. I would say they are way more immersive than eso.

I never recommend Morrowind over Skyrim. While I can get over the dated graphics and take time to mod it up a little, the average player won't have the nostalgia glasses we do and will probably find the whole thing lacklustre.

The two games are extremely different, the surrounding lore and style are probably the only similar things. I have both of them and play them depending on my mood, but I don't think you need to play one in order to enjoy the other.

Fair enough, though I will say I was only about 10 when I got Morrowind but it wasn't until I was like 19 that I actually picked it back up and played through the quests and appreciated it.

But yeah op, if you aren't a fan of older graphics/can't get past it, you may not enjoy Morrowind. I'll still say I think it's more immersive and has richer content with a better variety of cities and npcs though .

RinaldoGandolphi

If you don';t play Skyrim your short changing yourself. Even though Skyrim is the least in-depth of the single player games, its far deeper then ESO

You can literally play anything you want...you have all the classic TEs skill lines and schools of magic...and there are no classes...you pick and choose what you want to use.

You cna be a spell Sword..using Destruction magic and swords...you cna be a battle mage using Heavy Armor and Destruction...you cna even be a Necromancer and resurrect corpses and dead bodies...your options are limitless...

I'll warn you...once you play Skyrim......you will see clearly all the things ESO is missing....and ESO is missing a lot....being it an MMO....if you have never played Skyrim...you won't even realize your alone after 20 minutes.

play it in 1st person...trust me....1st person...you will get fart more out of the game that way

Lysette

Skyrim has decent stealth gameplay, unlike ESO, which has just a detection radius and no shadow or obstacle really counts. ESO is shallow compared to Skyrim. ESO is huge and has more content, but more is not always better - in this case it isn't.

JD2013

Lysette wrote: »

Skyrim has decent stealth gameplay, unlike ESO, which has just a detection radius and no shadow or obstacle really counts. ESO is shallow compared to Skyrim. ESO is huge and has more content, but more is not always better - in this case it isn't.

Sorry, have to disagree with you here. I find Skyrim a far more shallow experience than ESO. The only thing it does better is the caves and delves (it does have some massive and beautiful Dwemer ruins.) But apart from that ... Ehhhhhh. Don't get me wrong, I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on Skyrim, and I always love playing through any ES title. They are always wonderful experiences. But the combat is atrocious and floaty, horse riding is weird and feels clunky, and not a lot of the quests are particularly memorable. I think nostalgia goggles have a lot to answer for ...

But the pluses of Skyrim are that the world is quite beautiful, Solstheim was oodles of fun, as I mentioned before - the caves and delves are awesome.

However, different strokes for different folks.

Lysette

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Skyrim has decent stealth gameplay, unlike ESO, which has just a detection radius and no shadow or obstacle really counts. ESO is shallow compared to Skyrim. ESO is huge and has more content, but more is not always better - in this case it isn't.

Sorry, have to disagree with you here. I find Skyrim a far more shallow experience than ESO. The only thing it does better is the caves and delves (it does have some massive and beautiful Dwemer ruins.) But apart from that ... Ehhhhhh. Don't get me wrong, I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on Skyrim, and I always love playing through any ES title. They are always wonderful experiences. But the combat is atrocious and floaty, horse riding is weird and feels clunky, and not a lot of the quests are particularly memorable. I think nostalgia goggles have a lot to answer for ...

But the pluses of Skyrim are that the world is quite beautiful, Solstheim was oodles of fun, as I mentioned before - the caves and delves are awesome.

However, different strokes for different folks.

You might be correct with vanilla Skyrim, but I played it with so many mods, that Skyrim became a really demanding survival game to me. The ability to mod Skyrim is just awesome, you do not have to put up with things you do not like, unlike in ESO. And unlike ZOS, Bethesda does not try to rip someone off. At least not yet. I am so disappointed into how ZOS handles ESO. ESO is just a time filler until a real TES game will be released again.

JD2013

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Skyrim has decent stealth gameplay, unlike ESO, which has just a detection radius and no shadow or obstacle really counts. ESO is shallow compared to Skyrim. ESO is huge and has more content, but more is not always better - in this case it isn't.

Sorry, have to disagree with you here. I find Skyrim a far more shallow experience than ESO. The only thing it does better is the caves and delves (it does have some massive and beautiful Dwemer ruins.) But apart from that ... Ehhhhhh. Don't get me wrong, I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on Skyrim, and I always love playing through any ES title. They are always wonderful experiences. But the combat is atrocious and floaty, horse riding is weird and feels clunky, and not a lot of the quests are particularly memorable. I think nostalgia goggles have a lot to answer for ...

But the pluses of Skyrim are that the world is quite beautiful, Solstheim was oodles of fun, as I mentioned before - the caves and delves are awesome.

However, different strokes for different folks.

You might be correct with vanilla Skyrim, but I played it with so many mods, that Skyrim became a really demanding survival game to me. The ability to mod Skyrim is just awesome, you do not have to put up with things you do not like, unlike in ESO.

Oh absolutely, there are some great mods in Skyrim. That we can also agree on.

However, as a whole, I think ESO is the better game. You get to see a lot more of Tamriel, for starters. Rather than just one province.

And, even with its flaws, (Yeah there's definitely a few!) I have spent far more hours here than in Skyrim.

SublimeSparo

Wonders if this thread will get locked as not about ESO?
What will win- forum rules or free advertising.
The plot thickens.

Lysette

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Wonders if this thread will get locked as not about ESO?
What will win- forum rules or free advertising.
The plot thickens.

Well, the physical copy of Skyrim contains bonus items for ESO - so this is not totally separated. Skyrim is as well a Zenimax product, not a ZOS product, but a Zenimax product, created and released by Bethesda. And if it wasn't about Skyrim, ESO would never have gotten that far. ESO benefits from Skyrim a whole lot, as a stand alone it would not be any successful. ZOS lacks the ability to market their game, their PR and communication with the community is subpar - if it would not be about the popularity of Skyrim, ESO would long be dead.

Cazic

I highly recommend playing any of the Elder Scrolls games if you haven't before. They're all epic role playing experiences.

JimT722

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Skyrim has decent stealth gameplay, unlike ESO, which has just a detection radius and no shadow or obstacle really counts. ESO is shallow compared to Skyrim. ESO is huge and has more content, but more is not always better - in this case it isn't.

Sorry, have to disagree with you here. I find Skyrim a far more shallow experience than ESO. The only thing it does better is the caves and delves (it does have some massive and beautiful Dwemer ruins.) But apart from that ... Ehhhhhh. Don't get me wrong, I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on Skyrim, and I always love playing through any ES title. They are always wonderful experiences. But the combat is atrocious and floaty, horse riding is weird and feels clunky, and not a lot of the quests are particularly memorable. I think nostalgia goggles have a lot to answer for ...

But the pluses of Skyrim are that the world is quite beautiful, Solstheim was oodles of fun, as I mentioned before - the caves and delves are awesome.

However, different strokes for different folks.

You might be correct with vanilla Skyrim, but I played it with so many mods, that Skyrim became a really demanding survival game to me. The ability to mod Skyrim is just awesome, you do not have to put up with things you do not like, unlike in ESO. And unlike ZOS, Bethesda does not try to rip someone off. At least not yet. I am so disappointed into how ZOS handles ESO. ESO is just a time filler until a real TES game will be released again.

I enjoyed Skyrim on PC. I loved the graphics mods but tried using things that don't impact gameplay too much. Eso got me to put down Skyrim. Played eso on PC and transferred to PS4. Now due to the direction ZOS is going I am returning to Skyrim this time on PS4. Without mods of course because PS4 doesn't really support it.

Lysette

JimT722 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Skyrim has decent stealth gameplay, unlike ESO, which has just a detection radius and no shadow or obstacle really counts. ESO is shallow compared to Skyrim. ESO is huge and has more content, but more is not always better - in this case it isn't.

Sorry, have to disagree with you here. I find Skyrim a far more shallow experience than ESO. The only thing it does better is the caves and delves (it does have some massive and beautiful Dwemer ruins.) But apart from that ... Ehhhhhh. Don't get me wrong, I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on Skyrim, and I always love playing through any ES title. They are always wonderful experiences. But the combat is atrocious and floaty, horse riding is weird and feels clunky, and not a lot of the quests are particularly memorable. I think nostalgia goggles have a lot to answer for ...

But the pluses of Skyrim are that the world is quite beautiful, Solstheim was oodles of fun, as I mentioned before - the caves and delves are awesome.

However, different strokes for different folks.

You might be correct with vanilla Skyrim, but I played it with so many mods, that Skyrim became a really demanding survival game to me. The ability to mod Skyrim is just awesome, you do not have to put up with things you do not like, unlike in ESO. And unlike ZOS, Bethesda does not try to rip someone off. At least not yet. I am so disappointed into how ZOS handles ESO. ESO is just a time filler until a real TES game will be released again.

I enjoyed Skyrim on PC. I loved the graphics mods but tried using things that don't impact gameplay too much. Eso got me to put down Skyrim. Played eso on PC and transferred to PS4. Now due to the direction ZOS is going I am returning to Skyrim this time on PS4. Without mods of course because PS4 doesn't really support it.

Well, I read that "live another life"-mod is available with the special edition - try at least that one, it gives you the opportunity to start the game in a different way (the original beginning is an option in it as well). I liked that mod a lot, because you are able to postpone the main story for as long as you want and start in different locations with different starting equipment as well. The main story starts, when you visit Helgen with this mod - it will unlock the "Unbound" quest as soon as you get near to Helgen. I liked the "left for dead" start in a random location. But one can as well start as a property owner and get one of the player houses and start there for example - a good mod.

JimT722

Lysette wrote: »

JimT722 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Skyrim has decent stealth gameplay, unlike ESO, which has just a detection radius and no shadow or obstacle really counts. ESO is shallow compared to Skyrim. ESO is huge and has more content, but more is not always better - in this case it isn't.

Sorry, have to disagree with you here. I find Skyrim a far more shallow experience than ESO. The only thing it does better is the caves and delves (it does have some massive and beautiful Dwemer ruins.) But apart from that ... Ehhhhhh. Don't get me wrong, I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours on Skyrim, and I always love playing through any ES title. They are always wonderful experiences. But the combat is atrocious and floaty, horse riding is weird and feels clunky, and not a lot of the quests are particularly memorable. I think nostalgia goggles have a lot to answer for ...

But the pluses of Skyrim are that the world is quite beautiful, Solstheim was oodles of fun, as I mentioned before - the caves and delves are awesome.

However, different strokes for different folks.

You might be correct with vanilla Skyrim, but I played it with so many mods, that Skyrim became a really demanding survival game to me. The ability to mod Skyrim is just awesome, you do not have to put up with things you do not like, unlike in ESO. And unlike ZOS, Bethesda does not try to rip someone off. At least not yet. I am so disappointed into how ZOS handles ESO. ESO is just a time filler until a real TES game will be released again.

I enjoyed Skyrim on PC. I loved the graphics mods but tried using things that don't impact gameplay too much. Eso got me to put down Skyrim. Played eso on PC and transferred to PS4. Now due to the direction ZOS is going I am returning to Skyrim this time on PS4. Without mods of course because PS4 doesn't really support it.

Well, I read that "live another life"-mod is available with the special edition - try at least that one, it gives you the opportunity to start the game in a different way (the original beginning is an option in it as well). I liked that mod a lot, because you are able to postpone the main story for as long as you want and start in different locations with different starting equipment as well. The main story starts, when you visit Helgen with this mod - it will unlock the "Unbound" quest as soon as you get near to Helgen. I liked the "left for dead" start in a random location. But one can as well start as a property owner and get one of the player houses and start there for example - a good mod.

I have used it on PC. It is on Xbox one. It don't think PS4 can use it. i think it has external assets.