WTF happened to the World Bosses?

Uriel_Nocturne

The only (and I mean ONLY) World Boss I could never Solo was those three Necromancers in Auridon.

For whatever reason, they always smacked me around like I was a child... so finally seeing other people around there and finally defeating them with an impromptu Group was supremely satisfying for me.

piratz86

robwolf666 wrote: »

I went to go and take one on today for some XP only to find it suddenly has super powers and trunk load more health, wtf, like they weren't already difficult?

Thanks for ruining those ESO, much appreciated. Just hope the bosses in delves haven't been given the same bullcrap overhaul...

Like they weren't already difficult? They were easy and that was the problem. There's a reason they are called world bosses. Now you need a few people in the WORLD to beat them.

Bazeric

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

You pulled this out of context halfway through your argument. I was simply saying that not everyone really has people they can group with, and I don't use zone anymore because trolls everywhere o_o

Wasn't really making an argument as much as sharing how I cope with WBs as a lonely friendless solo player. If none of those options work for you in clearing a WB then you'll have to accept that you're not going to clear it. I don't have trouble throwing a shoutout in /zone because even if some troll/elites start yaking, there are other silent lonely solo player who are hoping to clear the WB too, and they'll show up. You've posted here on the forums so I'm sure you could ask for help if you needed in zone. It isn't all vitriol.

I am a solo player and I think the new bosses are good. They are bosses now, they have loot now, you feel good for killing them now. They aren't just slightly more HP mobs with a funny name anymore.

Ch4mpTW

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

The only (and I mean ONLY) World Boss I could never Solo was those three Necromancers in Auridon.

For whatever reason, they always smacked me around like I was a child... so finally seeing other people around there and finally defeating them with an impromptu Group was supremely satisfying for me.

@Uriel_Nocturne For you, I shall solo them.

piratz86

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

The only (and I mean ONLY) World Boss I could never Solo was those three Necromancers in Auridon.

For whatever reason, they always smacked me around like I was a child... so finally seeing other people around there and finally defeating them with an impromptu Group was supremely satisfying for me.

@Uriel_Nocturne For you, I shall solo them.

Please do and upload a video. Would love to see that.

Rune_Relic

I always find the triple world bosses much more challenging.
The single bosses are more time consuming and one shot deadly.
The triple bosses require awareness of all 3 and more concentration...positioning...movement....versatility

AshTal

Right now they can be done because we have a lot of people camping them for equipment drops. I suspect they will be toned down in a few months and go back to a 2 to 4 person content.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

AshTal wrote: »

Right now they can be done because we have a lot of people camping them for equipment drops. I suspect they will be toned down in a few months and go back to a 2 to 4 person content.

Through the natural course of the game you wont have to tone them down. More people will get better sets, cp will go up and after awhile they will be back to being done by 1-2 people. Which is why i am glad they are what they are now. At least now it might be a couple months before they are a joke.

Joy_Division

robwolf666 wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still solo-able. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

I don't, I tend to try and solo ones at, or close to, my level... or I used to. So they're basically forcing people to group up, nice. Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

They are not "forcing" you to do anything.

If you spent less time on the forums whining and more time practicing or devising a better build, you would be able to solo the bosses yourself and not have to worry about a group.

Sigtric

Bosses got turned into real bosses.

LadyNalcarya

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

You can always tell the pepole who never played before power creep made most mobs a joke.

So much this!
Due to power creep, minibosses used to be such a joke...
And I think they can still be soloed, you just cant 3-hit them.

Skcarkden

piratz86 wrote: »

robwolf666 wrote: »

I went to go and take one on today for some XP only to find it suddenly has super powers and trunk load more health, wtf, like they weren't already difficult?

Thanks for ruining those ESO, much appreciated. Just hope the bosses in delves haven't been given the same bullcrap overhaul...

Like they weren't already difficult? They were easy and that was the problem. There's a reason they are called world bosses. Now you need a few people in the WORLD to beat them.

It's just way to ambitious of ZOS.

They have a meeting and all agree with themselves that Gold Edition is going to dramatically get them lots of new players so the world of the game should reflect that.

AzraelKrieg

They are now threatening. Well, most of them are. Some are still pushovers. Go find a Frost Atronach world boss, they are pretty easy to kill solo. Slow moving, easy to telegraph, no additional adds. It's not so much a learn to play issue, it's a learn to adjust issue.

Prof_Bawbag

Not an issue just now. Wait 5 months down the road and they'll all be dead zones again. Make the most of your time now and get your gear drops whilst others are around.

Uriel_Nocturne

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

The only (and I mean ONLY) World Boss I could never Solo was those three Necromancers in Auridon.

For whatever reason, they always smacked me around like I was a child... so finally seeing other people around there and finally defeating them with an impromptu Group was supremely satisfying for me.

@Uriel_Nocturne For you, I shall solo them.

Awesome!

lardvader

They are real bosses now.

Grab your magTemplar if you want to solo them

Cherryblossom

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

https://youtu.be/q-A2a_TjsNE

It's all based on: Rotations, gear, champion points, and overall understanding of the mechanics at hand and your build. That's the trick. Do that, and you can solo any world boss. And with the greatest of ease. Seriously.

Though I still can't solo that golden saint in Stonefalls, because he's always being attacked by tons of people and rushed to constantly. One day, I'll add him to my list of world bosses slapped around too.

@robwolf666
You should probably try this boss, I killed him by accident yesterday when I fell from the waterfall above on top of him. Just keep trying to get behind him and he does very little damage.

AlnilamE

SirAndy wrote: »

They made them what they were supposed to be all along. Group content ...

Yes. And I love that they are of varying difficulty. In last week's Unguided Tour, we ran around killing World Bosses and voted for the most challenging (among the ones we did, we didn't cover all of them). Bittergreen is ahead atm.

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

robwolf666 wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still solo-able. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

I don't, I tend to try and solo ones at, or close to, my level... or I used to. So they're basically forcing people to group up, nice. Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

Solo aspect.....MMO... Multiplayer... Sorry, I really am not trying to be a jerk. But ask in zone, your guild, your friends... please put in effort to actually play the game.

Forcing?? No, sorry, there is a ton of content you can still do solo. But world bosses are groups now, either do them as a group, get good enough to solo them, or don't do them.

I get what you're saying on how this is a multiplayer game, but don't forget there are people who don't have people they can group with. I have a few friends, only 2 of them actually play, and I only ever play regularly with one of them, because the other one plays long after I've gotten off for the day. Also, I could request help from my 3 guilds, but one of them (the one I run) has like 3 active people (Me and my two friends), and the others I usually don't involve much in because they have a lot of higher level players who I tend to respect that they have things they'd rather do than help a lower level player.

In short, not everyone has friends.

Understood, but right now there are so many people at each world boss that just typing in zone "World Boss X up" will bring people who are farming for sets in that zone.

Eirella

Are you kidding? I love that world bosses are actually challenging now!

robwolf666

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

You can always tell the pepole who never played before power creep made most mobs a joke.

I'm not sure if you're suggesting I haven't been playing long, but fyi I was in the Beta and have been playing since day 1 of the release.

alexkdd99

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

Bazeric wrote: »

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

In short, not everyone has friends.

I don't have many friends. So my options are:

1. Make friends.
I suck at this so... point 2
2. Get Gud
I have got gud. I can solo many of the WB, but not all so point 3
3. Camp World Boss
Perhaps not as proud a strategy but valid none the less, but some bosses are just ignored so point 4
4. Throw up a "WB XYZ123 is up" in zone
Wait a few minutes and other people are likely to show up if they haven't already said they would in zone.
5. If completely out of options maybe you aren't getting what you want out of ESO and should reconsider life choices.

If you haven't been playing ESO from the get go, you might not yet appreciate the new balance of WB power. It is a good change. I wonder if newer players are just like PVP sorcs of yester years who were blind to their own power.

I'm like 90% solo... there is still a whole main story questline, 3 alliance story questlines, what 4 solo guild questlines and likely a hundred random quests for solo? There is plenty of content to work on solo, now they've added content that is great for ad hoc/informal groups that is likely a gateway for building friendships and regular group content. So once initial frustration sub sides, hopefully people will see that it is better this way.

You pulled this out of context halfway through your argument. I was simply saying that not everyone really has people they can group with, and I don't use zone anymore because trolls everywhere o_o

Also, I've been playing since about a couple months before Hist came out, so I knew what it was like before the major buff to the group bosses. And I do like it this way (except for the aforementioned trolls) because I can now play with that one friend I play regularly with.

You are just making excuses now. You don't use zone because trolls? If you are going to hinder yourself why should anyone help you if you don't make the effort to help yourself.

The bosses are not that hard. They aren't even on the same level as wrothgar world bosses.

subtlezeroub17_ESO

Kinda reminds me of WoW cataclysm. Its funny not being able to frag one-shot things anymore. Lol.

I actually have to force pulse now.

robwolf666

BlackEar wrote: »

I dont understand this thread. Your title asks a question you answer in your own comment.

Close the thread?

I do that a lot - it's more a discussion than a question.

Wolfhammer

I like world bosses that are actually deserving of the title... They are now a decent fight with 4 people..

I'm not lvl 50 yet by the way

robwolf666

Hmm... OK... I jumped in on a couple of WB's today (with others) - and no, not part way through, I waited for them to re-spawn - and it wasn't so bad, I just had to think a bit more when I was fighting it, lol... So, I possibly jumped the gun, might've just been the shock of suddenly getting my ass handed to me by a Boss I'd previously had little trouble with, lol.

The drops for me were shite though, not one thing was relevant to my characters class.

Destyran

If you didnt fight craglorn wasps in 1.6 you cant complain!!

Ghost-Shot

Destyran wrote: »

If you didnt fight craglorn wasps in 1.6 you cant complain!!

At every damn resource node! And if you think they are tough now, you should have seen this stuff back in like launch-1.2, it was an impressive feat if you could take on 3 mobs at a time in vet zones, wish it would go back to the way honestly.

Paraflex

Honestly I have enjoyed the changes in T1. It's a bit over crowded now but it's no longer a walk in the park you actually have to strategically play now. Delves and Dolmens are still easy world bosses are tough now. Learn to play.....

AjiBuster499

alexkdd99 wrote: »

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

Bazeric wrote: »

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

In short, not everyone has friends.

I don't have many friends. So my options are:

1. Make friends.
I suck at this so... point 2
2. Get Gud
I have got gud. I can solo many of the WB, but not all so point 3
3. Camp World Boss
Perhaps not as proud a strategy but valid none the less, but some bosses are just ignored so point 4
4. Throw up a "WB XYZ123 is up" in zone
Wait a few minutes and other people are likely to show up if they haven't already said they would in zone.
5. If completely out of options maybe you aren't getting what you want out of ESO and should reconsider life choices.

If you haven't been playing ESO from the get go, you might not yet appreciate the new balance of WB power. It is a good change. I wonder if newer players are just like PVP sorcs of yester years who were blind to their own power.

I'm like 90% solo... there is still a whole main story questline, 3 alliance story questlines, what 4 solo guild questlines and likely a hundred random quests for solo? There is plenty of content to work on solo, now they've added content that is great for ad hoc/informal groups that is likely a gateway for building friendships and regular group content. So once initial frustration sub sides, hopefully people will see that it is better this way.

You pulled this out of context halfway through your argument. I was simply saying that not everyone really has people they can group with, and I don't use zone anymore because trolls everywhere o_o

Also, I've been playing since about a couple months before Hist came out, so I knew what it was like before the major buff to the group bosses. And I do like it this way (except for the aforementioned trolls) because I can now play with that one friend I play regularly with.

You are just making excuses now. You don't use zone because trolls? If you are going to hinder yourself why should anyone help you if you don't make the effort to help yourself.

The bosses are not that hard. They aren't even on the same level as wrothgar world bosses.

<Self-edited because nothing good would have come out if I answered this>

Bazeric wrote: »

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

You pulled this out of context halfway through your argument. I was simply saying that not everyone really has people they can group with, and I don't use zone anymore because trolls everywhere o_o

Wasn't really making an argument as much as sharing how I cope with WBs as a lonely friendless solo player. If none of those options work for you in clearing a WB then you'll have to accept that you're not going to clear it. I don't have trouble throwing a shoutout in /zone because even if some troll/elites start yaking, there are other silent lonely solo player who are hoping to clear the WB too, and they'll show up. You've posted here on the forums so I'm sure you could ask for help if you needed in zone. It isn't all vitriol.

I am a solo player and I think the new bosses are good. They are bosses now, they have loot now, you feel good for killing them now. They aren't just slightly more HP mobs with a funny name anymore.

I view everything as an argument, not like fistfight argument, but more like giving your view on things and using that to persuade try to win them over to your side. Also, I had a textbook once called "Everything's an Argument." It stuck lol.

Anyways, Since 1T came out, I haven't really done world bosses. I used to before 1T, but now it's like, meh. I probably need to put that ignore list function to good use so I can actually turn zone chat on again.

SickDuck

There's an option to leave them alone. Your gaming experience won't suffer a bit.

Otherwise wait for other or get good enough to kill them. There's plenty of options to handle the situation.