WTF happened to the World Bosses?

robwolf666

I went to go and take one on today for some XP only to find it suddenly has super powers and trunk load more health, wtf, like they weren't already difficult?

Thanks for ruining those ESO, much appreciated. Just hope the bosses in delves haven't been given the same bullcrap overhaul...

SirAndy

They made them what they were supposed to be all along. Group content ...

Lumbermill_Emperor

L2P issue

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still soloable. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

THEDKEXPERIENCE

robwolf666 wrote: »

I went to go and take one on today for some XP only to find it suddenly has super powers and trunk load more health, wtf, like they weren't already difficult?

Thanks for ruining those ESO, much appreciated. Just hope the bosses in delves haven't been given the same bullcrap overhaul...

Sit right here. We're gonna need to have a talk ...

Mephilis78

Personally, love how I can almost be oneshoted now. The werewolves in Glenumbra Moors caught me off guard.

AnnieBeGood

hee hee... oh em, yes. You can solo them.... but maybe a group would be a good idea?

vyndral13preub18_ESO

You can always tell the pepole who never played before power creep made most mobs a joke.

Iselin

Some WBs were buffed a lot including abilities that will one-shot you if you don't dodge or block them. But many other WBs just had a lot of extra HP added - those you can still solo... if you have the patience.

I accidentally soloed one WB yesterday - that snake in Auridon. There were two CP561 players standing nearby so I just started it. Those 2 other guys must have been AFK or maybe they just wanted to see if a level 45 sorc (they obviously can't see the 360 CP that level 45 also has ) could do it 'cause they didn't join in.

It took several minutes but I did it.

robwolf666

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still solo-able. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

I don't, I tend to try and solo ones at, or close to, my level... or I used to. So they're basically forcing people to group up, nice. Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

Nestor

robwolf666 wrote: »

Just hope the bosses in delves haven't been given the same bullcrap overhaul...

They have not. At least not as much as World Bosses.

World Bosses were never intended to be Solo'd, but taken down with Groups. The Group requirement went away a long time ago.

ChapterMasterV

IMO most of the World bosses that only have one boss, and maybe a couple trash adds are solo-able now, admittedly with more effort than before, and can take time to burn down the health, but it can be done.

aldriq

World bosses were a bit fed up with their current situation, so they unionised and demanded a pay rise or a stats buff... ZoS could only afford the buff.

ThePaleItalian

robwolf666 wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still solo-able. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

I don't, I tend to try and solo ones at, or close to, my level... or I used to. So they're basically forcing people to group up, nice. Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

Solo aspect.....MMO... Multiplayer... Sorry, I really am not trying to be a jerk. But ask in zone, your guild, your friends... please put in effort to actually play the game.

Forcing?? No, sorry, there is a ton of content you can still do solo. But world bosses are groups now, either do them as a group, get good enough to solo them, or don't do them.

ChapterMasterV

Nestor wrote: »

robwolf666 wrote: »

Just hope the bosses in delves haven't been given the same bullcrap overhaul...

They have not. At least not as much as World Bosses.

World Bosses were never intended to be Solo'd, but taken down with Groups. The Group requirement went away a long time ago.

They had announced in the patch notes for 1T that they were making World Bosses more aimed at groups of 4, whereas they were previously aimed at groups of 2.

N2woR

Strangely I love them this way now

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

robwolf666 wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still solo-able. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

I don't, I tend to try and solo ones at, or close to, my level... or I used to. So they're basically forcing people to group up, nice. Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

Well the game is an MMO so if everything was solo then what is the point? There is still a ton of solo content and world bosses don't prevent you from progressing through the game so the entire story can be done solo.

Vrienda

Sadly they've been buffed. It's better to avoid them altogether unless you see others doing them. With all three alliances open at any level there's plenty of exp to get to level 50 now.

So glad I went on a tour of every world boss in the game on my dark elf a few months back.

Acrolas

robwolf666 wrote: »

Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

They literally just gave us 99% of Craglorn for solo play.

But if your fragile masculinity is going to be smashed into a million pieces by asking for help, then just wander around until you find a group already attacking a boss. Then you'll still be the hero for finishing what they started and couldn't finish until you got there.

Darkestnght

Lumbermill_Emperor wrote: »

L2P issue

@Lumbermill_Emperor - What a lame response.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

aldriq wrote: »

World bosses were a bit fed up with their current situation, so they unionised and demanded a pay rise or a stats buff... ZoS could only afford the buff.

You should have seen the drama on the NPC only forum. Nerf this, buff that. Looks like the devs finally caved to the demands of these filthy casual NPCs!

Rune_Relic

robwolf666 wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still solo-able. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

I don't, I tend to try and solo ones at, or close to, my level... or I used to. So they're basically forcing people to group up, nice. Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

Open a map. Click on the key symbol to show what the symbols mean.
Right therein black and white...
"""""GROUP""""" BOSS

They were always supposed to be group content
They fact they can still be soloed regardless is a blessing.

misfitmanic

aldriq wrote: »

World bosses were a bit fed up with their current situation, so they unionised and demanded a pay rise or a stats buff... ZoS could only afford the buff.

Pretty much this!

AjiBuster499

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

robwolf666 wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

They are meant to be taken on by groups now. Considering they are bosses I would hope they are harder to defeat. Delve bosses are still solo-able. No need to get mad because you can't solo those lvl 10 world bosses anymore

I don't, I tend to try and solo ones at, or close to, my level... or I used to. So they're basically forcing people to group up, nice. Wonder which solo aspect they'll change next...

Solo aspect.....MMO... Multiplayer... Sorry, I really am not trying to be a jerk. But ask in zone, your guild, your friends... please put in effort to actually play the game.

Forcing?? No, sorry, there is a ton of content you can still do solo. But world bosses are groups now, either do them as a group, get good enough to solo them, or don't do them.

I get what you're saying on how this is a multiplayer game, but don't forget there are people who don't have people they can group with. I have a few friends, only 2 of them actually play, and I only ever play regularly with one of them, because the other one plays long after I've gotten off for the day. Also, I could request help from my 3 guilds, but one of them (the one I run) has like 3 active people (Me and my two friends), and the others I usually don't involve much in because they have a lot of higher level players who I tend to respect that they have things they'd rather do than help a lower level player.

In short, not everyone has friends.

BlackEar

I dont understand this thread. Your title asks a question you answer in your own comment.

Close the thread?

Bazeric

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

In short, not everyone has friends.

I don't have many friends. So my options are:

1. Make friends.
I suck at this so... point 2
2. Get Gud
I have got gud. I can solo many of the WB, but not all so point 3
3. Camp World Boss
Perhaps not as proud a strategy but valid none the less, but some bosses are just ignored so point 4
4. Throw up a "WB XYZ123 is up" in zone
Wait a few minutes and other people are likely to show up if they haven't already said they would in zone.
5. If completely out of options maybe you aren't getting what you want out of ESO and should reconsider life choices.

If you haven't been playing ESO from the get go, you might not yet appreciate the new balance of WB power. It is a good change. I wonder if newer players are just like PVP sorcs of yester years who were blind to their own power.

I'm like 90% solo... there is still a whole main story questline, 3 alliance story questlines, what 4 solo guild questlines and likely a hundred random quests for solo? There is plenty of content to work on solo, now they've added content that is great for ad hoc/informal groups that is likely a gateway for building friendships and regular group content. So once initial frustration sub sides, hopefully people will see that it is better this way.

Solus

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

IMO most of the World bosses that only have one boss, and maybe a couple trash adds are solo-able now, admittedly with more effort than before, and can take time to burn down the health, but it can be done.

I can solo the frost atronach in Bankori post update still, granted its with a bow and spamming resolving vigor and kiting him, but 1.8mil health is still solo-able.

AjiBuster499

Bazeric wrote: »

AjiBuster499 wrote: »

In short, not everyone has friends.

I don't have many friends. So my options are:

1. Make friends.
I suck at this so... point 2
2. Get Gud
I have got gud. I can solo many of the WB, but not all so point 3
3. Camp World Boss
Perhaps not as proud a strategy but valid none the less, but some bosses are just ignored so point 4
4. Throw up a "WB XYZ123 is up" in zone
Wait a few minutes and other people are likely to show up if they haven't already said they would in zone.
5. If completely out of options maybe you aren't getting what you want out of ESO and should reconsider life choices.

If you haven't been playing ESO from the get go, you might not yet appreciate the new balance of WB power. It is a good change. I wonder if newer players are just like PVP sorcs of yester years who were blind to their own power.

I'm like 90% solo... there is still a whole main story questline, 3 alliance story questlines, what 4 solo guild questlines and likely a hundred random quests for solo? There is plenty of content to work on solo, now they've added content that is great for ad hoc/informal groups that is likely a gateway for building friendships and regular group content. So once initial frustration sub sides, hopefully people will see that it is better this way.

You pulled this out of context halfway through your argument. I was simply saying that not everyone really has people they can group with, and I don't use zone anymore because trolls everywhere o_o

Also, I've been playing since about a couple months before Hist came out, so I knew what it was like before the major buff to the group bosses. And I do like it this way (except for the aforementioned trolls) because I can now play with that one friend I play regularly with.

Uriel_Nocturne

SirAndy wrote: »

They made them what they were supposed to be all along. Group content ...

This.

World Bosses are supposed to be (IMO) challenges that; you can discover when out wandering, but are challenging enough that you Group with people around you and tackle the difficulty together.

Before 1T, there was really no challenge to the World Bosses. Everyone could run up and Solo them with relative ease.

After 1T, you actually need to Group with other people in the area, which makes the World Bosses finally fulfill the challenge that they were originally designed to be.

This change is a huge step that has been needed for quite some time, OP.

IMO of course. Others may disagree, but this is how I see it.

Ch4mpTW

https://youtu.be/q-A2a_TjsNE

It's all based on: Rotations, gear, champion points, and overall understanding of the mechanics at hand and your build. That's the trick. Do that, and you can solo any world boss. And with the greatest of ease. Seriously.

Though I still can't solo that golden saint in Stonefalls, because he's always being attacked by tons of people and rushed to constantly. One day, I'll add him to my list of world bosses slapped around too.

SirAndy

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

It's all based on: Rotations, gear, champion points, and overall understanding of the mechanics at hand and your build. That's the trick. Do that, and you can solo any world boss. And with the greatest of ease. Seriously.
Though I still can't solo that golden saint in Stonefalls, because he's always being attacked by tons of people and rushed to constantly. One day, I'll add him to my list of world bosses slapped around too.

You literally picked the easiest world boss after 1T to show off how good of a solo player you are?