So Mag DK's are the Champ

coolermh

From my expierence dueling last night. This was with some high level pvpers on ps4.
Fossalize, talons, heavy armor, high dmg dots, wings, wards, big heals= gg


Looks like im making that mag dk

arkansas_ESO

Stam builds running the 2H ult would probably put mag DKs in the dirt, but I do worry about the mag DK buffs coming next patch. The last class Wrobel buffed was stam sorc, and they went from useless to demigods in an instant

Nser

What the point of this post?
nerfing?

Alucardo

mDKs have always excelled at duelling/1v1s and PVE DPS. The only place they don't cope as well is open world solo PVP.. which is kinda hard for anyone these days.

coolermh

Nser wrote: »

What the point of this post?
nerfing?

No not at all. I dont want to see any class nerfed. This game is not a 1v1 game. I think Mag DK's have their drawbacks as well. In open world they have low maneuverability and no escape. They are just pretty strong in 1v1.

DocFrost72

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Stam builds running the 2H ult would probably put mag DKs in the dirt, but I do worry about the mag DK buffs coming next patch. The last class Wrobel buffed was stam sorc, and they went from useless to demigods in an instant

Direct from the update 13 patch notes:

"We've decided to finally allow magicka DKs into the club. We've given them the following changes to help make them more competitive in PvP!

Ardent flames: These abilities now all scale off of stamina, and do physical or poison damage.

Draconic power: These abilities now all scale off of stamina, and do physical or poison damage.

Earthen heart: These abilities now all scale off of stamina, and do physical or poison damage. IN ADDITION, helping hands now restores 1% magicka per use of an earthen heart ability and passively grants a 10% cost reduction in stamina ability costs.

That's right folks, we're making your mDKs OP! All you need is the gold for a skill, attribute, and CP respec!"

Alucardo

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Stam builds running the 2H ult would probably put mag DKs in the dirt, but I do worry about the mag DK buffs coming next patch. The last class Wrobel buffed was stam sorc, and they went from useless to demigods in an instant

That's mostly because Stam sorcs are generic stam builds - most of their power comes from physical damage utilities because their passives increase their overall damage. So to "fix" stamina sorcs, what wrobel did was

- Gave them more damage
- Gave stamina more damage

So essentially they received 2 pretty significant damage buffs. Dark Deal is essentially op now as well, so resource management and healing on a stam sorc is huge. They basically have a bit of everything rolled up in one class right now.

arkansas_ESO

DocFrost72 wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Stam builds running the 2H ult would probably put mag DKs in the dirt, but I do worry about the mag DK buffs coming next patch. The last class Wrobel buffed was stam sorc, and they went from useless to demigods in an instant

Direct from the update 13 patch notes:

"We've decided to finally allow magicka DKs into the club. We've given them the following changes to help make them more competitive in PvP!

Ardent flames: These abilities now all scale off of stamina, and do physical or poison damage.

Draconic power: These abilities now all scale off of stamina, and do physical or poison damage.

Earthen heart: These abilities now all scale off of stamina, and do physical or poison damage. IN ADDITION, helping hands now restores 1% magicka per use of an earthen heart ability and passively grants a 10% cost reduction in stamina ability costs.

That's right folks, we're making your mDKs OP! All you need is the gold for a skill, attribute, and CP respec!"

You forgot to mention that they buffed Stonefist's damage by 0.03%

DHale

Magic DK s greatest weakness is anytime there is more than one enemy. Any other questions?

Pallio

Well if you saw one win a dual then they must be OP. Yes go level one immediately

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

arkansas_ESO

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

Because blocking and healing totally isn't something mag DK can do...

THEDKEXPERIENCE

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

Because blocking and healing totally isn't something mag DK can do...

They sure can, but it eats up a ton of resources. If you have enough stamina to block the whole thing then they aren't really a magDK. Don't get me wrong, it's totally possible but even the most minor slip up can leave someone in a pile of ash.

coolermh

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

Soul assault is still a joke. My vigor heals faster then a 70k soul assault while blocking plus it gives me time to regen resources in a duel. I used on my sorc it tooltiped 80k and did jack *** to any good pvp player.

coolermh

Talons and fossalize is just really strong in duels if used correctly your snared or cc'ed pretty much the whole fight

THEDKEXPERIENCE

coolermh wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

Soul assault is still a joke. My vigor heals faster then a 70k soul assault while blocking plus it gives me time to regen resources in a duel. I used on my sorc it tooltiped 80k and did jack *** to any good pvp player.

Good thing I can hit you with a javelin before it so you can't actually do any of that, or a radiant after it. Also, you can't regen stamina while blocking but who needs facts, right!?

And hey, if you're good enough to deal with those, congrats!

THEDKEXPERIENCE

coolermh wrote: »

Talons and fossalize is just really strong in duels if used correctly your snared or cc'ed pretty much the whole fight

Mist form is quite useful for this.

coolermh

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

coolermh wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

Soul assault is still a joke. My vigor heals faster then a 70k soul assault while blocking plus it gives me time to regen resources in a duel. I used on my sorc it tooltiped 80k and did jack *** to any good pvp player.

Good thing I can hit you with a javelin before it so you can't actually do any of that, or a radiant after it. Also, you can't regen stamina while blocking but who needs facts, right!?

And hey, if you're good enough to deal with those, congrats!

I can regen stam cause i spam igneous. Im just saying its not that good

coolermh

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

coolermh wrote: »

Talons and fossalize is just really strong in duels if used correctly your snared or cc'ed pretty much the whole fight

Mist form is quite useful for this.

I didint think of that. How do you use it since you cant attack in mist form?

THEDKEXPERIENCE

coolermh wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

coolermh wrote: »

Talons and fossalize is just really strong in duels if used correctly your snared or cc'ed pretty much the whole fight

Mist form is quite useful for this.

I didint think of that. How do you use it since you cant attack in mist form?

Mist form is very easy to cancel. So do this ...

- Oh know, I'm rooted!
- Mist form, move a few inches
- Cancel by bar swapping
- Attack


You can't do both at the same time but you can just use mist form for a split second to unroot yourself and then attack.

arkansas_ESO

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

Because blocking and healing totally isn't something mag DK can do...

They sure can, but it eats up a ton of resources. If you have enough stamina to block the whole thing then they aren't really a magDK. Don't get me wrong, it's totally possible but even the most minor slip up can leave someone in a pile of ash.

You wouldn't even really need to block, just spam Annulment.

a1i3nz

Yeah fossilize and traps errrywhere

Mist form

zuto40

Ive noticed the mdk's in duels are either complete idiots or absolute demigods

Calboy

Duelled about 3 different mdks the other night. One was easy as pie to beat. The other two I couldn't touch. The constant pressure they apply while constantly ccing is very hard to combat. I found they would force me into defensive mode and I just couldn't get out long enough to apply my own pressure.

leepalmer95

I still cant kill these heavy armor proc s&b builds on my mag dk.

Too much healing, burst dmg and tankiness .

KramUzibra

coolermh wrote: »

From my expierence dueling last night. This was with some high level pvpers on ps4.
Fossalize, talons, heavy armor, high dmg dots, wings, wards, big heals= gg


Looks like im making that mag dk

I'm a full medium armor stam dk wearing hundings and marksman and I have almost 0 problems with mag dk. I can honestly say I fear them the least in duels.

Calboy

KramUzibra wrote: »

coolermh wrote: »

From my expierence dueling last night. This was with some high level pvpers on ps4.
Fossalize, talons, heavy armor, high dmg dots, wings, wards, big heals= gg


Looks like im making that mag dk

I'm a full medium armor stam dk wearing hundings and marksman and I have almost 0 problems with mag dk. I can honestly say I fear them the least in duels.

thats because as a stam dk youre everything a mdk isn't

access to an execute, mobility, loads of stamina, better heals, better ultimates, better versions of mdks dots, and a much higher damage output without making larger sacrifices that a mdk has to make.

zuto40

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Enjoy trying to flappy wings out of my 70k Soul Assault and the 50kish Radiant Oppression that follows it.

Because blocking and healing totally isn't something mag DK can do...

got hit by an 18k soul assault through block on a character with s&b, dont even kid

AverageJo3Gam3r

Soul assault isn't a big deal. Embers them before they channel, block, then towards the end of the channel embers them again to heal to full before they have a chance to follow it up.

And, unless they changed it, why aren't you bashing radiant oppression? It's a free flame lash proc.

Waffennacht

Stam Sorc beat mDK, mag Sorc beat Stam Sorc, mag Dk beat mag sorc, mag temp killed mag sorc, mag DK beat mag Temp

NB didn't win Jack

coolermh

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stam Sorc beat mDK, mag Sorc beat Stam Sorc, mag Dk beat mag sorc, mag temp killed mag sorc, mag DK beat mag Temp

NB didn't win Jack

Im pretty sure mag temp beats mag dk...purify is pretty damn good....my stam dk beats many mag temps though.


Really though stam nightblades are probably the hardest to be good at but they are extremely good for duels if you are good.

I happen to suck with mine.