Alkosh/Vic. Orphidant

Typeous

Is these set's 3 piece bonus better than Agility set on stam dd's? %5 damage done didnt seems better than agility's 186 weap damage + 1400 stamina.

Anyone tried that? %5 damage done gives 1500 dps if we have 30k dps.

Wollust

The 5% damage done from Minor Slayer is actually quite the huge bonus and definitely better than Agility.

Izaki

Minor Slayer is much better than Agility or Willpower. They don't even come close in giving 5% more DPS.

Mojmir

Even better qhwn you have gold VO jewels.

Splattercat_83

Mojmir wrote: »

Even better qhwn you have gold VO jewels.

Isn't the gold only like 25 points more than the purple? I can't recall off the top of my head, but it wasn't enough of a difference to snob the purple version.I've got a gold ring and necklace and one purple ring. The gold jewelry seems more of a trophy than anything.

Totalitarian

Totalitarian wrote: »

We define a variable: Effective Weapon Damage, which is going to be defined as the sum of Max Stamina multiplied by a weapon damage constant, and weapon damage.

Define:

MaxStam = Maximum Stamina

WDConst = Stamina to weapon damage conversion (10.54 Stamina is about 1 Weapon Damage)

WeaponDamage = Weapon Damage without the extra 129 weapon damage

So, what you're asking is if (MaxStam*WDConst + (WeaponDamage + 129))/(MaxStam*WDConst + WeaponDamage) > 1.05

So, you can work out the algebra (subsitute MaxStam*WDConst as X, and Weapon Damage as Y, and 129 as C)

This gets (X+Y+C)/(X+Y) > 1.05. Expand this out, and you'll get 1 + C/(X+Y) > 1.05

Or C/(X+Y) > .05.

Reexpand, to get 129/(MaxStam*WDConst + WeaponDamage) > .05

If this ratio is true, then it is better to take the 129 damage (it's true if the resultant is greater than .05)

To give you an example, I did this with 33k stamina and 3600 Weapon Damage, and got an answer of .019

That means that with those stats, Minor Slayer is still more effective.

I remember I did some math with this calculation. So I hunted it down for you. I came up with a formula. See above quote.

Solus

Splattercat_83 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Even better qhwn you have gold VO jewels.

Isn't the gold only like 25 points more than the purple? I can't recall off the top of my head, but it wasn't enough of a difference to snob the purple version.I've got a gold ring and necklace and one purple ring. The gold jewelry seems more of a trophy than anything.

its not much, is there a set bonus for everything being legendary? or is the whole set upped because one of it is legendary. I would think the former.. but im not sure

Mojmir

Solus wrote: »

Splattercat_83 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Even better qhwn you have gold VO jewels.

Isn't the gold only like 25 points more than the purple? I can't recall off the top of my head, but it wasn't enough of a difference to snob the purple version.I've got a gold ring and necklace and one purple ring. The gold jewelry seems more of a trophy than anything.

its not much, is there a set bonus for everything being legendary? or is the whole set upped because all of it is legendary. I would think the former.. but im not sure

The point is,there IS a gold version and it's better than agility

Solus

Mojmir wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

Splattercat_83 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Even better qhwn you have gold VO jewels.

Isn't the gold only like 25 points more than the purple? I can't recall off the top of my head, but it wasn't enough of a difference to snob the purple version.I've got a gold ring and necklace and one purple ring. The gold jewelry seems more of a trophy than anything.

its not much, is there a set bonus for everything being legendary? or is the whole set upped because all of it is legendary. I would think the former.. but im not sure

The point is,there IS a gold version and it's better than agility

My question is, like viper for example, does the cost of 3 gold viper jewels justify just having all gold, do you get a bonus if all of your armor is gold vs having that one purple ring/neck

Mojmir

Solus wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

Splattercat_83 wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Even better qhwn you have gold VO jewels.

Isn't the gold only like 25 points more than the purple? I can't recall off the top of my head, but it wasn't enough of a difference to snob the purple version.I've got a gold ring and necklace and one purple ring. The gold jewelry seems more of a trophy than anything.

its not much, is there a set bonus for everything being legendary? or is the whole set upped because all of it is legendary. I would think the former.. but im not sure

The point is,there IS a gold version and it's better than agility

My question is, like viper for example, does the cost of 3 gold viper jewels justify just having all gold, do you get a bonus if all of your armor is gold vs having that one purple ring/neck

I'm at work,so I can't be sure.but I think if you don't have all three pcs the same,it scales to the lowest for the set bonus.

DBcom

It doesn't scale to lowest.
It averages out.

Dymence

Sometimes I wonder how hard it is to look up a sets name before butchering it...

Dubhliam

Dymence wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder how hard it is to look up a sets name before butchering it...

The dyslexia is real these days.

I know, that guy might be from Germany or France, and that set might have a different name in their client.
But I highly doubt "Tamriel" is spelled differently, yet I see too many "Tamerial" threads these days.

To answer OP's question, yes, Minor Slayer is better than 3 piece Agility.
But I think comments like "quite the huge bonus and definitely better" and "much better" are over the top.
We are talking about marginally better stats.
Not 150% difference.

The greatest benefit in my opinion is that you can also complete the 5 piece set for additional bonuses, where Agility will always just have the 3 pieces.