Ebon Shield Drops

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO

Hi,

Does anyone know if Ebon shields drop in crypt of hearts??

Mojmir

yes,I've seen it.don't want it,but I've had it drop.

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO

I've ran it so many times but never seen it drop so just wanted to confirm it with someone. Thanks for the reply

Edziu

yes I have seen...now dont know when but know it was from last boss in CoH I after this last patch Tamriel One

idk

@abhimat1999rwb17_ESO

It does drop.

There has been a bug. When Ebon is on the weapon bar it is sometimes lost with weapon swap. Don't know the status of any fix. Best to use only jewelry and armor.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Shields and weapons drop in two places. The last boss and from chests. There might be a really small chance to drop from trash, but I cant confirm that.

What I will say is that hands down the best weapon and shield drops I have seen have come from Advanced or Master chests. Again, I can't confirm, but I feel like you are more likely to get a good trait from a high level chest.

Zekken86

I can confirm the shield does drop but it's very rare. I have been farming COH1 for about 6 months (estimating about 240 runs total) both normal and vet. I also started running COH2 on vet because it seemed like i was getting more 1H Ebon weapons in those runs so I figured maybe I would be more likely to get a shield.

However I got this shield last night 1/15/18 in normal COH1 from the last boss.

Nocturnal_Annoyance

Got a sturdy one last week in COH1 normal, though like someone else mentioned, not planning on using it because of the bar swap bug.

Apache_Kid

idk wrote: »

@abhimat1999rwb17_ESO

It does drop.

There has been a bug. When Ebon is on the weapon bar it is sometimes lost with weapon swap. Don't know the status of any fix. Best to use only jewelry and armor.

I was just going to pop in here and say the same thing. I only use ebon on body pieces and jewelry now because of this. I haven't tried running ebon on weapons/shield in a long time but last time i did I had many issues with the bonus going away on swap. I'm going to go ahead and assume it is NOT fixed based on how small bugs like this tend to persist for near-eternity. I'd recommend farming a shield and weapons for the other set you are going to run.

Edit: I didnt even realize after posting that this is an old thread LOL. Maybe that glitch is fixed by now. It's been along time since i tested it i dont even have my ebon weapons and shield anymore after the glitch.

Danksta

Zekken86 wrote: »

I can confirm the shield does drop but it's very rare. I have been farming COH1 for about 6 months (estimating about 240 runs total) both normal and vet. I also started running COH2 on vet because it seemed like i was getting more 1H Ebon weapons in those runs so I figured maybe I would be more likely to get a shield.

However I got this shield last night 1/15/18 in normal COH1 from the last boss.

Ouch! That sucks considering the bug that occurs when using Ebon weapons/shields that causes the buff to fall off temporarily.

Jamini

Sheilds count as weapons for drops. This means they only drop on the final boss of a dungeon, or in chests.

Only the final boss in a dungeon drops a weapon drop. The average breakdown is a follows:

33% - Named Drop
33% - Jewlery (22% ring, 11% neck)
33% - Weapon (2.54% chance for a specific weapon type, as there are 13 types of weapons)

This is also slightly weighted towards stamina-based or magicka-based weapons depending on the set. (Medium Armor sets have a slight advantage for 2h, 1h,bow. Heavy Armor sets have a slight advantage for 1h, shield. Light armor sets have a slight bias towards staves)

lardvader

Nocturnal_Annoyance wrote: »

Got a sturdy one last week in COH1 normal, though like someone else mentioned, not planning on using it because of the bar swap bug.

I pretty sure that the bug was fixed ages ago (almost a year ago).

Might be wrong and don't have any official patch note or statement regarding this.

Danksta

lardvader wrote: »

Nocturnal_Annoyance wrote: »

Got a sturdy one last week in COH1 normal, though like someone else mentioned, not planning on using it because of the bar swap bug.

I pretty sure that the bug was fixed ages ago (almost a year ago).

Might be wrong and don't have any official patch note or statement regarding this.

I ran with a tank last patch that was using Ebon weapons/shield and it wasn't fixed then.

Drakkdjinn

PSA - wearing ebon weapons/shields will bug ur party's HP when u wpn swap b/c ZoS. Go for body pieces.

lardvader

Danksta wrote: »

lardvader wrote: »

Nocturnal_Annoyance wrote: »

Got a sturdy one last week in COH1 normal, though like someone else mentioned, not planning on using it because of the bar swap bug.

I pretty sure that the bug was fixed ages ago (almost a year ago).

Might be wrong and don't have any official patch note or statement regarding this.

I ran with a tank last patch that was using Ebon weapons/shield and it wasn't fixed then.

Ah well same old same old - yeah prob. best to stick with armor / jewelry.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

@abhimat1999rwb17_ESO they drop on last bosses of CoH 1 and 2 but don't bother using ebon as weapons/shield cuz when u bar swap even if u have them on both bars Zo$ fixed it for the user but the group still looses the hp on swap so u will practically damage your group every time u bar swap.

Hamiltonmath

Jamini wrote: »

Sheilds count as weapons for drops. This means they only drop on the final boss of a dungeon, or in chests.

Only the final boss in a dungeon drops a weapon drop. The average breakdown is a follows:

33% - Named Drop
33% - Jewlery (22% ring, 11% neck)
33% - Weapon (2.54% chance for a specific weapon type, as there are 13 types of weapons)

This is also slightly weighted towards stamina-based or magicka-based weapons depending on the set. (Medium Armor sets have a slight advantage for 2h, 1h,bow. Heavy Armor sets have a slight advantage for 1h, shield. Light armor sets have a slight bias towards staves)

And considering there are 3 sets in each dungeon, then we are now at a .845% chance of a drop. 1.69 drops for every 200 runs.

Iccotak

Been trying to get the ring myself. unfourtunatley I have to run Vet in order to get purple
For the shield, run Normal. But no matter what get a group of friends OR make a group with the understanding that you get the piece you are looking for.
Cannot say how many times I ran a group and someone did not share the ring.

Dungeon etiqete: If someone says they are looking for a specific piece but you are also looking for it, SPEAK UP. This prevents conflict of interest. They can find another group to suit their needs. Otherwise you are wasting their time

Tasear

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

PSA - wearing ebon weapons/shields will bug ur party's HP when u wpn swap b/c ZoS. Go for body pieces.

Should of been fixed with green pact issues back in homestead patch.

LadyNalcarya

Tasear wrote: »

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

PSA - wearing ebon weapons/shields will bug ur party's HP when u wpn swap b/c ZoS. Go for body pieces.

Should of been fixed with green pact issues back in homestead patch.

Its fixed for the user, not for the group.

zaria

Hamiltonmath wrote: »

Jamini wrote: »

Sheilds count as weapons for drops. This means they only drop on the final boss of a dungeon, or in chests.

Only the final boss in a dungeon drops a weapon drop. The average breakdown is a follows:

33% - Named Drop
33% - Jewlery (22% ring, 11% neck)
33% - Weapon (2.54% chance for a specific weapon type, as there are 13 types of weapons)

This is also slightly weighted towards stamina-based or magicka-based weapons depending on the set. (Medium Armor sets have a slight advantage for 2h, 1h,bow. Heavy Armor sets have a slight advantage for 1h, shield. Light armor sets have a slight bias towards staves)

And considering there are 3 sets in each dungeon, then we are now at a .845% chance of a drop. 1.69 drops for every 200 runs.

Explains why I have never seen an SPC restoration staff outside of one from key fragments, it was 500K+ all the ones I had, got some SPC jewelry to, vWGT is an pain to pug.
Hint Key fragments will drop in price as many will farm IC now.

Zekken86

So I did some investigation of the bar swap issue and I can confirm that group members health does drop if you are using Ebon weapons and shield as you can see in the video below.

https://youtu.be/Ng4BdX_ZjW4

You can see that the health drop by about 1300 and then goes back up. My health however never drops. Also notice that the health does not always go up at the same rate, sometimes it takes a second or two and other times it's almost instant.

In this second video I wanted to see if I could actually kill a group member if they were below 1k health when I bar swapped.

https://youtu.be/CuhOnVXYX10

I slowed the video down so it's very clear. My set up was the same as in the first video 3 Ebon jewelry, sword and board on one bar and DW on the other.

My group members health went down to 185, then it went to 484 (do to health regen) and then I swapped bars. As you can see I could not kill him by swapping bars even though his health was less than 1k.

I propose that this weapon swap bug is not really a major issue. Here is why I say that.

Let's suppose that someone has 17k health and 18k with Ebon. When I weapon swap their health would drop back down to 17k momentarily. At that moment one of three things could happen. 1) they could receive damage for less than 17k in this case they will live. 2) they could receive damage between 17k and 18k in this case they will die. 3) they could receive damage for more than 18k in this case they would die. However they would have died from number 3 anyway even if my Ebon was on only body pieces.

So the only time that it could lead to a group death is if someone is hit for the exact value of their health during the short moment that their health drops when I weapon swap.

So yes it's a bug, and yes it's kind of annoying and will hopefully be fixed at some point in the future, but in my opinion it's not that big of a deal and really shouldn't prevent you from running Ebon on your weapons if that's what's most convenient for your set up.

ccfeeling

Yes , it does .

Keep to que COH 1 / COH 2 until you get enough lol .

Maura_Neysa

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Hi,

Does anyone know if Ebon shields drop in crypt of hearts??

Yes it drops I have 3. Doesnt matter though because you don't want it. Keep your Ebon on the body pieces, that way you can run another set that isnt heavy, like Alksoh (medium) on the weapons. my Selfish set up is Plague (most health) and Desert Rose (light armor and the most magicka recovery you can get)

There also used to be a bug where when Ebon was on the front/back bar it would drop off on one. I've heard it was fixed, but have yet to see that officially anywhere. So just another reason to not run it on the weapons.

Maura_Neysa

Zekken86 wrote: »

So I did some investigation of the bar swap issue and I can confirm that group members health does drop if you are using Ebon weapons and shield as you can see in the video below.

https://youtu.be/Ng4BdX_ZjW4

You can see that the health drop by about 1300 and then goes back up. My health however never drops. Also notice that the health does not always go up at the same rate, sometimes it takes a second or two and other times it's almost instant.

In this second video I wanted to see if I could actually kill a group member if they were below 1k health when I bar swapped.

https://youtu.be/CuhOnVXYX10

I slowed the video down so it's very clear. My set up was the same as in the first video 3 Ebon jewelry, sword and board on one bar and DW on the other.

My group members health went down to 185, then it went to 484 (do to health regen) and then I swapped bars. As you can see I could not kill him by swapping bars even though his health was less than 1k.

I propose that this weapon swap bug is not really a major issue. Here is why I say that.

Let's suppose that someone has 17k health and 18k with Ebon. When I weapon swap their health would drop back down to 17k momentarily. At that moment one of three things could happen. 1) they could receive damage for less than 17k in this case they will live. 2) they could receive damage between 17k and 18k in this case they will die. 3) they could receive damage for more than 18k in this case they would die. However they would have died from number 3 anyway even if my Ebon was on only body pieces.

So the only time that it could lead to a group death is if someone is hit for the exact value of their health during the short moment that their health drops when I weapon swap.

So yes it's a bug, and yes it's kind of annoying and will hopefully be fixed at some point in the future, but in my opinion it's not that big of a deal and really shouldn't prevent you from running Ebon on your weapons if that's what's most convenient for your set up.

I counter your "Its not a big deal" with DoTs I can not tell you the number of times that I as a tank have had a death recap of 20K(x6), 6K, 3K, 15k, 600. That one tick of this or that which finishes me off

Runefang

I have 2 Ebon Maces and 2 Ebon Shields, all picked up while farming Ebon jewellery and body armor.

They just sit in my bank.

Maura_Neysa

zaria wrote: »

Hamiltonmath wrote: »

Jamini wrote: »

Sheilds count as weapons for drops. This means they only drop on the final boss of a dungeon, or in chests.

Only the final boss in a dungeon drops a weapon drop. The average breakdown is a follows:

33% - Named Drop
33% - Jewlery (22% ring, 11% neck)
33% - Weapon (2.54% chance for a specific weapon type, as there are 13 types of weapons)

This is also slightly weighted towards stamina-based or magicka-based weapons depending on the set. (Medium Armor sets have a slight advantage for 2h, 1h,bow. Heavy Armor sets have a slight advantage for 1h, shield. Light armor sets have a slight bias towards staves)

And considering there are 3 sets in each dungeon, then we are now at a .845% chance of a drop. 1.69 drops for every 200 runs.

Explains why I have never seen an SPC restoration staff outside of one from key fragments, it was 500K+ all the ones I had, got some SPC jewelry to, vWGT is an pain to pug.
Hint Key fragments will drop in price as many will farm IC now.

This is mostly true, I however have 3 The Unbroken (Inferno) and 1 Molag Kena's Touch (Lighting) Staffs. They are named drop and The Unbroken comes from the first boss. Don't remember which boss Kena's came from.

Zekken86

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Zekken86 wrote: »

So I did some investigation of the bar swap issue and I can confirm that group members health does drop if you are using Ebon weapons and shield as you can see in the video below.

https://youtu.be/Ng4BdX_ZjW4

You can see that the health drop by about 1300 and then goes back up. My health however never drops. Also notice that the health does not always go up at the same rate, sometimes it takes a second or two and other times it's almost instant.

In this second video I wanted to see if I could actually kill a group member if they were below 1k health when I bar swapped.

https://youtu.be/CuhOnVXYX10

I slowed the video down so it's very clear. My set up was the same as in the first video 3 Ebon jewelry, sword and board on one bar and DW on the other.

My group members health went down to 185, then it went to 484 (do to health regen) and then I swapped bars. As you can see I could not kill him by swapping bars even though his health was less than 1k.

I propose that this weapon swap bug is not really a major issue. Here is why I say that.

Let's suppose that someone has 17k health and 18k with Ebon. When I weapon swap their health would drop back down to 17k momentarily. At that moment one of three things could happen. 1) they could receive damage for less than 17k in this case they will live. 2) they could receive damage between 17k and 18k in this case they will die. 3) they could receive damage for more than 18k in this case they would die. However they would have died from number 3 anyway even if my Ebon was on only body pieces.

So the only time that it could lead to a group death is if someone is hit for the exact value of their health during the short moment that their health drops when I weapon swap.

So yes it's a bug, and yes it's kind of annoying and will hopefully be fixed at some point in the future, but in my opinion it's not that big of a deal and really shouldn't prevent you from running Ebon on your weapons if that's what's most convenient for your set up.

I counter your "Its not a big deal" with DoTs I can not tell you the number of times that I as a tank have had a death recap of 20K(x6), 6K, 3K, 15k, 600. That one tick of this or that which finishes me off

Well the weapon swap bug doesn't effect the wearer of ebon (the tank). Also Dots can be purged either through templar ritual or purge skill.

Unfadingsilence

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Hi,

Does anyone know if Ebon shields drop in crypt of hearts??

Ran it a few times to get the ebon armor and got the shield 3 times

Toc de Malsvi

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Zekken86 wrote: »

So I did some investigation of the bar swap issue and I can confirm that group members health does drop if you are using Ebon weapons and shield as you can see in the video below.

https://youtu.be/Ng4BdX_ZjW4

You can see that the health drop by about 1300 and then goes back up. My health however never drops. Also notice that the health does not always go up at the same rate, sometimes it takes a second or two and other times it's almost instant.

In this second video I wanted to see if I could actually kill a group member if they were below 1k health when I bar swapped.

https://youtu.be/CuhOnVXYX10

I slowed the video down so it's very clear. My set up was the same as in the first video 3 Ebon jewelry, sword and board on one bar and DW on the other.

My group members health went down to 185, then it went to 484 (do to health regen) and then I swapped bars. As you can see I could not kill him by swapping bars even though his health was less than 1k.

I propose that this weapon swap bug is not really a major issue. Here is why I say that.

Let's suppose that someone has 17k health and 18k with Ebon. When I weapon swap their health would drop back down to 17k momentarily. At that moment one of three things could happen. 1) they could receive damage for less than 17k in this case they will live. 2) they could receive damage between 17k and 18k in this case they will die. 3) they could receive damage for more than 18k in this case they would die. However they would have died from number 3 anyway even if my Ebon was on only body pieces.

So the only time that it could lead to a group death is if someone is hit for the exact value of their health during the short moment that their health drops when I weapon swap.

So yes it's a bug, and yes it's kind of annoying and will hopefully be fixed at some point in the future, but in my opinion it's not that big of a deal and really shouldn't prevent you from running Ebon on your weapons if that's what's most convenient for your set up.

I counter your "Its not a big deal" with DoTs I can not tell you the number of times that I as a tank have had a death recap of 20K(x6), 6K, 3K, 15k, 600. That one tick of this or that which finishes me off

You don't lose health when you swap, you lose max health. Meaning if you have 20k max health, and you are at 5k health due to damage taken. You wont lose any more health because of bar swap. Your max health goes down only.

Which means you only risk taking a hit for your full health during barswap that might kill you if you otherwise had 1k more health. Which isn't a realistic scenario, hits that would kill you during barswap dont really matter if your health is 1k higher.

RavenSworn

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Zekken86 wrote: »

So I did some investigation of the bar swap issue and I can confirm that group members health does drop if you are using Ebon weapons and shield as you can see in the video below.

https://youtu.be/Ng4BdX_ZjW4

You can see that the health drop by about 1300 and then goes back up. My health however never drops. Also notice that the health does not always go up at the same rate, sometimes it takes a second or two and other times it's almost instant.

In this second video I wanted to see if I could actually kill a group member if they were below 1k health when I bar swapped.

https://youtu.be/CuhOnVXYX10

I slowed the video down so it's very clear. My set up was the same as in the first video 3 Ebon jewelry, sword and board on one bar and DW on the other.

My group members health went down to 185, then it went to 484 (do to health regen) and then I swapped bars. As you can see I could not kill him by swapping bars even though his health was less than 1k.

I propose that this weapon swap bug is not really a major issue. Here is why I say that.

Let's suppose that someone has 17k health and 18k with Ebon. When I weapon swap their health would drop back down to 17k momentarily. At that moment one of three things could happen. 1) they could receive damage for less than 17k in this case they will live. 2) they could receive damage between 17k and 18k in this case they will die. 3) they could receive damage for more than 18k in this case they would die. However they would have died from number 3 anyway even if my Ebon was on only body pieces.

So the only time that it could lead to a group death is if someone is hit for the exact value of their health during the short moment that their health drops when I weapon swap.

So yes it's a bug, and yes it's kind of annoying and will hopefully be fixed at some point in the future, but in my opinion it's not that big of a deal and really shouldn't prevent you from running Ebon on your weapons if that's what's most convenient for your set up.

I counter your "Its not a big deal" with DoTs I can not tell you the number of times that I as a tank have had a death recap of 20K(x6), 6K, 3K, 15k, 600. That one tick of this or that which finishes me off

You don't lose health when you swap, you lose max health. Meaning if you have 20k max health, and you are at 5k health due to damage taken. You wont lose any more health because of bar swap. Your max health goes down only.

Which means you only risk taking a hit for your full health during barswap that might kill you if you otherwise had 1k more health. Which isn't a realistic scenario, hits that would kill you during barswap dont really matter if your health is 1k higher.

This is it.