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Using your name for your characters name?

  • ListerJMC
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    I'm not sure that even counts as bending the rules. The names on UESP are just the ones that have appeared in TES games before. I think it's unlikely (even with Daggerfall) it's a complete list of every single name Bethesda would ever allow, ever. Unless they've specifically said those letters cannot be combined or laid out a naming scheme that makes it obvious they wouldn't work I think there's no reason to think it's not appropriate.

    I think it's the whole theory that Altmeri names are combinations of numbers that makes me think I may have called my character Enetwothree instead of Onetwothree or something :D. I know that source is wrong on a lot of things about Altmer and it's probably false information, but I still think of it every time I name one! A lot of RP'ers come up to me when I'm playing her to try and start something though so it must just be me that thinks I've done something odd!

    That information is most likely false indeed (human propaganda, like a lot of things we think we know about the Altmer), and a quest in ESO indicates its falsehood. A woman in Skywatch, Auridon, who tells you about her children and asks you to pray for them.

    When you ask about one of them and comments on the name of that one (you say the name is unusual), she says "I know, so old fashioned!". If there are old fashioned names, it means their names can go in and out fashion, therefore there are popular names that are used by multiple Altmer, which means they can't be just numbers.

    (Also I think it is worth mentioning that there are a few clouple of Altmer with the same names in the series)

    (Edited a few times to add more information)

    Yes I remember that line because the name she said, Wirande, sounded no different to any other Altmer name I'd heard and yet it was "old fashioned" :D. Made me wonder if I was using old-fashioned names for my characters, or if some of the older Altmer in the game had old-fashioned names too (Trechtus, Vanus, Iachesis, Verandis, Mannimarco, Vingalmo, etc.).

    As I said like most things in that text I think the numbered naming practice is false propaganda (it'd be nice if an Altmer actually responded to the claims but anyway), it's just always in the back of my mind when making an Altmer.

    The child wasn't her oldest one, so I think it is not a matter of just being older.

    But, let's face it, we could use a single player TES in the Dominion. The last three TES games, which were the ones that built most of the lore, were all in places of historical enemies of the Altmer. Besides, there is revolution brewing in Alinor after years of the repressive Thalmor government that attacked their own people.

    Sorry, went on a tangent there. Anyways, I want the Altmer to respond to those claims too. Even if it is on a meta joke, like "Where did you hear that? Did you come straight from Skyrim?".

    Wirande was named after his grandfather, so I was thinking of Altmer who would have been born several generations back. This was the dialogue:
    You: Wirande, that's an unusual name.
    Ancalin: I know, so old fashioned. I named him after my father. My first boy. I knew what name he'd have. And he made me so proud.

    I want an Elder Scrolls game in the Isles so badly, then hopefully they can talk about some of those claims and whether they're true/false/discontinued/only practiced by a minority etc. Also because Altmer are my favourite and I want to see more of their homeland, customs, and history :).

    Ohh I see what you mean, yeah. That dialogue pretty much rules out the possibility of their names being numbers, unless they name them in any order they like and with no regards to it being unique (and on that case, why use numbers at all if it doesn't help with organization and "branding"?).

    I'm kinda defending my own case here. My Altmer and main character is named Aerindel, which is a mix and match of a bunch of common syllables found in Altmeri names in the games xD

    (Also, about a game in the Isles, it could open an opportunity to add more lore on the Maormer too, which would be nice)

    I feel like the number idea has to have come from something the Altmer actually do which has been pushed to an extreme, I mean Altmeri culture must seem so orderly to outsiders that having numerical names would be completely believable. Perhaps some of their names do translate to numbers, but it's normal for them in the same way that people in the English language can be named after flowers? Or something like that I have all manner of off-topic theories on this :smiley:.

    Anyway my main character's name was constructed similarly to yours, he's called Ceremo Highfort - the first name was made from common syllables across all the games and the surname was inspired by the Daggerfall naming system.
    PC NA & EU || Mammoth Guilds - Victory or Valhalla || Altmer sorcerer main
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
  • Special_Bradley
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    My Sorcerer is callled Yeldarb and that's my name spelt backwards ☺️
    Ebonheart Loyalist - Xbox One EU

    High Elf Magicka Sorcerer - Yeldarb The White
    High Elf Magicka Templar - Selena Moretz
    Nord Magicka Templar - Defencive Statue
    Argonian Magicka Templar - Julacules
    Dark Elf Magicka Dragon Knight - Yeld The Fire Lord
    Breton Magicka Night Blade - Chloe Gomez
  • waterfairy
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    My Sorcerer is callled Yeldarb and that's my name spelt backwards ☺️
    Ha that sounds like a sorcerer. I usually look at my character then brain fart out a suitable sounding name. My altmer vamp sorcerer is named Memlok.
  • no0rdinarymike
    I give up on finding lore friendly names.. I spend all day thinking, to find one that is not too bad, make the character, then decided to google the name just for the heck of it.... I deleted the character. I'm not an RPer anyway and live for PvP. I'll just stick to my terrible names lol.
  • TheImperfect
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    I don't use my name but probably could as a Breton. I must admit I really tend to overthink it and make lore based or fun names.
  • Abeille
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm not sure that even counts as bending the rules. The names on UESP are just the ones that have appeared in TES games before. I think it's unlikely (even with Daggerfall) it's a complete list of every single name Bethesda would ever allow, ever. Unless they've specifically said those letters cannot be combined or laid out a naming scheme that makes it obvious they wouldn't work I think there's no reason to think it's not appropriate.

    I think it's the whole theory that Altmeri names are combinations of numbers that makes me think I may have called my character Enetwothree instead of Onetwothree or something :D. I know that source is wrong on a lot of things about Altmer and it's probably false information, but I still think of it every time I name one! A lot of RP'ers come up to me when I'm playing her to try and start something though so it must just be me that thinks I've done something odd!

    That information is most likely false indeed (human propaganda, like a lot of things we think we know about the Altmer), and a quest in ESO indicates its falsehood. A woman in Skywatch, Auridon, who tells you about her children and asks you to pray for them.

    When you ask about one of them and comments on the name of that one (you say the name is unusual), she says "I know, so old fashioned!". If there are old fashioned names, it means their names can go in and out fashion, therefore there are popular names that are used by multiple Altmer, which means they can't be just numbers.

    (Also I think it is worth mentioning that there are a few clouple of Altmer with the same names in the series)

    (Edited a few times to add more information)

    Yes I remember that line because the name she said, Wirande, sounded no different to any other Altmer name I'd heard and yet it was "old fashioned" :D. Made me wonder if I was using old-fashioned names for my characters, or if some of the older Altmer in the game had old-fashioned names too (Trechtus, Vanus, Iachesis, Verandis, Mannimarco, Vingalmo, etc.).

    As I said like most things in that text I think the numbered naming practice is false propaganda (it'd be nice if an Altmer actually responded to the claims but anyway), it's just always in the back of my mind when making an Altmer.

    The child wasn't her oldest one, so I think it is not a matter of just being older.

    But, let's face it, we could use a single player TES in the Dominion. The last three TES games, which were the ones that built most of the lore, were all in places of historical enemies of the Altmer. Besides, there is revolution brewing in Alinor after years of the repressive Thalmor government that attacked their own people.

    Sorry, went on a tangent there. Anyways, I want the Altmer to respond to those claims too. Even if it is on a meta joke, like "Where did you hear that? Did you come straight from Skyrim?".

    Wirande was named after his grandfather, so I was thinking of Altmer who would have been born several generations back. This was the dialogue:
    You: Wirande, that's an unusual name.
    Ancalin: I know, so old fashioned. I named him after my father. My first boy. I knew what name he'd have. And he made me so proud.

    I want an Elder Scrolls game in the Isles so badly, then hopefully they can talk about some of those claims and whether they're true/false/discontinued/only practiced by a minority etc. Also because Altmer are my favourite and I want to see more of their homeland, customs, and history :).

    Ohh I see what you mean, yeah. That dialogue pretty much rules out the possibility of their names being numbers, unless they name them in any order they like and with no regards to it being unique (and on that case, why use numbers at all if it doesn't help with organization and "branding"?).

    I'm kinda defending my own case here. My Altmer and main character is named Aerindel, which is a mix and match of a bunch of common syllables found in Altmeri names in the games xD

    (Also, about a game in the Isles, it could open an opportunity to add more lore on the Maormer too, which would be nice)

    I feel like the number idea has to have come from something the Altmer actually do which has been pushed to an extreme, I mean Altmeri culture must seem so orderly to outsiders that having numerical names would be completely believable. Perhaps some of their names do translate to numbers, but it's normal for them in the same way that people in the English language can be named after flowers? Or something like that I have all manner of off-topic theories on this :smiley:.

    Anyway my main character's name was constructed similarly to yours, he's called Ceremo Highfort - the first name was made from common syllables across all the games and the surname was inspired by the Daggerfall naming system.

    Maybe their citizens have social security numbers :P

    Then eventually the anti-elf propaganda turned "they have personal numbers attributed to them" into "their names are actually numbers".

    With surnames and titles, I avoid giving them to races that don't use them often (only my Breton and my Imperial have family names), even if it is lore-friendly to have them. It is really to avoid commitment more than anything else.
    My Orc uses the gra-[Mother's Name] nomenclature, and my Dunmer is an illegitimate child with an Altmer father (who raised her alone) so she has no surname either. My Nord uses "Snowcaller" as a title because she is a Cryomancer, and my Argonian was born slave (now freed) so she has a Cyrodiilic name.
    Edited by Abeille on October 18, 2016 7:13PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • ListerJMC
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    Abeille wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm not sure that even counts as bending the rules. The names on UESP are just the ones that have appeared in TES games before. I think it's unlikely (even with Daggerfall) it's a complete list of every single name Bethesda would ever allow, ever. Unless they've specifically said those letters cannot be combined or laid out a naming scheme that makes it obvious they wouldn't work I think there's no reason to think it's not appropriate.

    I think it's the whole theory that Altmeri names are combinations of numbers that makes me think I may have called my character Enetwothree instead of Onetwothree or something :D. I know that source is wrong on a lot of things about Altmer and it's probably false information, but I still think of it every time I name one! A lot of RP'ers come up to me when I'm playing her to try and start something though so it must just be me that thinks I've done something odd!

    That information is most likely false indeed (human propaganda, like a lot of things we think we know about the Altmer), and a quest in ESO indicates its falsehood. A woman in Skywatch, Auridon, who tells you about her children and asks you to pray for them.

    When you ask about one of them and comments on the name of that one (you say the name is unusual), she says "I know, so old fashioned!". If there are old fashioned names, it means their names can go in and out fashion, therefore there are popular names that are used by multiple Altmer, which means they can't be just numbers.

    (Also I think it is worth mentioning that there are a few clouple of Altmer with the same names in the series)

    (Edited a few times to add more information)

    Yes I remember that line because the name she said, Wirande, sounded no different to any other Altmer name I'd heard and yet it was "old fashioned" :D. Made me wonder if I was using old-fashioned names for my characters, or if some of the older Altmer in the game had old-fashioned names too (Trechtus, Vanus, Iachesis, Verandis, Mannimarco, Vingalmo, etc.).

    As I said like most things in that text I think the numbered naming practice is false propaganda (it'd be nice if an Altmer actually responded to the claims but anyway), it's just always in the back of my mind when making an Altmer.

    The child wasn't her oldest one, so I think it is not a matter of just being older.

    But, let's face it, we could use a single player TES in the Dominion. The last three TES games, which were the ones that built most of the lore, were all in places of historical enemies of the Altmer. Besides, there is revolution brewing in Alinor after years of the repressive Thalmor government that attacked their own people.

    Sorry, went on a tangent there. Anyways, I want the Altmer to respond to those claims too. Even if it is on a meta joke, like "Where did you hear that? Did you come straight from Skyrim?".

    Wirande was named after his grandfather, so I was thinking of Altmer who would have been born several generations back. This was the dialogue:
    You: Wirande, that's an unusual name.
    Ancalin: I know, so old fashioned. I named him after my father. My first boy. I knew what name he'd have. And he made me so proud.

    I want an Elder Scrolls game in the Isles so badly, then hopefully they can talk about some of those claims and whether they're true/false/discontinued/only practiced by a minority etc. Also because Altmer are my favourite and I want to see more of their homeland, customs, and history :).

    Ohh I see what you mean, yeah. That dialogue pretty much rules out the possibility of their names being numbers, unless they name them in any order they like and with no regards to it being unique (and on that case, why use numbers at all if it doesn't help with organization and "branding"?).

    I'm kinda defending my own case here. My Altmer and main character is named Aerindel, which is a mix and match of a bunch of common syllables found in Altmeri names in the games xD

    (Also, about a game in the Isles, it could open an opportunity to add more lore on the Maormer too, which would be nice)

    I feel like the number idea has to have come from something the Altmer actually do which has been pushed to an extreme, I mean Altmeri culture must seem so orderly to outsiders that having numerical names would be completely believable. Perhaps some of their names do translate to numbers, but it's normal for them in the same way that people in the English language can be named after flowers? Or something like that I have all manner of off-topic theories on this :smiley:.

    Anyway my main character's name was constructed similarly to yours, he's called Ceremo Highfort - the first name was made from common syllables across all the games and the surname was inspired by the Daggerfall naming system.

    Maybe their citizens have social security numbers :P

    Then eventually the anti-elf propaganda turned "they have personal numbers attributed to them" into "their names are actually numbers".

    With surnames and titles, I avoid giving them to races that don't use them often (only my Breton and my Imperial have family names), even if it is lore-friendly to have them. It is really to avoid commitment more than anything else.
    My Orc uses the gra-[Mother's Name] nomenclature, and my Dunmer is an illegitimate child with an Altmer father (who raised her alone) so she has no surname either. My Nord uses "Snowcaller" as a title because she is a Cryomancer, and my Argonian was born slave (now freed) so she has a Cyrodiilic name.

    If I give a race that doesn't normally have a surname a surname, there's always a story behind why. In his case, I gave it to him initially because I wanted to have a grandiose name for a very timid mer :p. Later I reasoned that it was the name of his house which was passed down to him, some of his ancestors were very adventurous on mainland Tamriel and decided they wanted a family name identifier to tie their exploits together so they chose their house's name. It was translated to Tamrielic for ease of pronunciation/remembering (not that it worked very well, but they tried :D).
    PC NA & EU || Mammoth Guilds - Victory or Valhalla || Altmer sorcerer main
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
  • Loralai_907
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    I do not use my name. I use some degree of Lore friendly, with a dark twist. None of mine are bright little cupcakes and I think their names should reflect that.
    PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+
    Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts
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